RE: [hlds_linux] Steam Ports

2006-02-16 Thread Scott Tuttle
The link works fine. http://tinyurl.com/9tqt2 Maybe your email client chopped it up and your not getting the full link. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Pettit Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:00 AM To:

[hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread sirtom__
As VAC2 is the number 1 anticheat in every league, I have to ask one question: Why isn't Valve updating it anymore? Thousands of cheaters are out there. Hundreds of newcomer clans are joining ladders and league, bashing oldschool clans like they have experience²... Actual it sucks playing in

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Tyler Cook
How do you know it doesnt get updates? VAC uses delayed banning... there is no way to track who gets banned... Keep your mouth closed and stop assuming things. VAC2 works, and eventually, they will get banned. On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As VAC2 is the number 1

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread sirtom__
Ah thanks, now I can see everything in pink again! Delayed banning, I know it... But what get's banned if nothing is found ^^ hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com schrieb am 16.02.06 16:19:01: How do you know it doesnt get updates? VAC uses delayed banning... there is no way to track who gets

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Saint K.
indd, VAC updates are always unannounced too. - Original Message - From: Tyler Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2 How do you know it doesnt get updates? VAC uses delayed

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Administracija
On SRCDS servers people get banned. Look at the: http://www.hlstatsx.com/vacbans - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2 Ah thanks, now I can see everything in

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Administracija
I would love to see announcments :). Then you can make them public and add some lines in red like: DIE CHEATERS! :-) - Original Message - From: Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread aprand
Especially when your talking leagues, immediate response to cheats would be nice. If you are playing against a team/player that cheats, and that team wins, and 2 months later they get banned, well it doesn't help your team advance, or even worst, get back the prize money you may have lost due to

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Bryan
I would like to add a different aspect to this. When cheat programs actively kicked players from the server for using or turning on thier cheats it gave the cheaters feedback that their coding wasn't working. With the delayed banning this can and does give the cheaters a moment to stop and worry

RE: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Scott
The cheaters will always be ahead of any anti-cheat system. The anti cheat system is a reactive system, NOT a proactive system. There will always be cheaters, it is up to valve to plug the holes, and it is up to the people who write the cheats to find new holes. All we can do is hope that Valve

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Saint K.
I think VAC2 is pro-active, if i recall it correctly Alfred said VAC2 will ban anything what it finds in the memory running hooked into the hl engine. - Original Message - From: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:34 PM

AW: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Simon Lange
Sorry Ronny, but its not a fakelist and YES ist pretty simple to log vac2 bans. All you need is a large array of gameservers where people play. Simon -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ronny Schedel Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Ronny Schedel
Nope. Because VAC2 bans you after you leave a server or right before you join a server. In every case, you are not connected to a server during a ban. Its impossible to log this. VAC1 bans can be logged, but not VAC2 bans (topic of this thread). Regards Ronny Sorry Ronny, but its not a

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Administracija
Why isn't that posible? VAC logs something inside logs. So if you have at least 100 servers, you can start doing a list. - Original Message - From: Simon Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: AW: [hlds_linux]

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread m0gely
Administracija wrote: Why isn't that posible? VAC logs something inside logs. So if you have at least 100 servers, you can start doing a list. What is the point of this discussion? Who cares if you have a log of banned id's? I can't think of a reason to keep such a list. -- - m0gely

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Administracija
If we can have a list, so it means that VAC2 works well :). That is the point. - Original Message - From: m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2 Administracija wrote: Why isn't

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread m0gely
Administracija wrote: If we can have a list, so it means that VAC2 works well :). That is the point. Heh, no, it means you have a list. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list

AW: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Simon Lange
Ronny, sad that you cant or dont want to understand. Do you know what a log is and what is logged? Not? Player cheats Player's account gets suspended by VAC Player is still stupid and tries to join a VAC secured server. Server denies connection and writes Player's STEAMID AND THAT HE IS VAC BANNED

AW: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Simon Lange
A list which you can use for many purposes. However still its not a fakelist. :D -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von m0gely Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 00:48 An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux]

AW: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread Simon Lange
Sorry for you that you dont have imagination. :) Have you ever visited the link which was provided in the first post? I say no. Otherwise you may would have read that it’s a website about a statistics system for halflife2 servers. Why do you think admins which use stats of players want to know if

[hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread grammaton782
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] hi folks first of all, this mailing list is NOT the place 2 post about vac2, except matters of not runing or starting (bugs) vac2 or beta developing under dedicated linux servers, not for starting a

[hlds_linux] Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.

2006-02-16 Thread Munra -hlds
This Problem was on the Windows list But I am haveing the same problems with windows and Linux I am doing an update with verify_all and All server are shut down and I getting this error.(This is putty Log) -bash-3.00$ cd /home/games/cs/test -bash-3.00$ cd /home/games/cs/test -bash-3.00$

Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2

2006-02-16 Thread sirtom__
At least: thank you very much for this summary ;) Maybe it isn't the right place, but at least we know, that (nearly) nothing happens. I think I'm going to contact the CD developers, asking for a cooperation with some leagues I have a bit influence in... (small but - you never know)