Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-14 Thread Ian mu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] But it also "doesn't" happen to some apparently (not sure about windows though), so would be useful to try and at least isolate if there's any difference why some get the issue and others don't. I.e could just be the latest kernel, or some adjustm

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-13 Thread Gary
Not an OS issue, happens on both *NIX and windows variants. At 02:38 PM 10/13/2005, ScratchMonkey wrote: --On Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:37 AM +0100 Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it possible for those with the problem to confirm what dist and kernel version on any machines that have

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-13 Thread ScratchMonkey
--On Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:37 AM +0100 Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it possible for those with the problem to confirm what dist and kernel version on any machines that have the problem, just may help give some ideas as well? Version is sufficient *if* the kernel is stock for th

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-13 Thread Ian mu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Is it possible for those with the problem to confirm what dist and kernel version on any machines that have the problem, just may help give some ideas as well? On 10/13/05, e-Plutonia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from m

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-12 Thread e-Plutonia
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Since I am not on the Intel platform anymore, I can't help out directly, however Gary, if you want, I can bring a few of my old Dual Xeon 3.2 / 3.0 / 2.8 boxes back online, as well as some P4s. On 10/12/05, Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-12 Thread Gary
I'm beginning to wonder if certain stepping Xeon's/P4's have this HT problem. I will investigate this further, but I don't think that is the case since I have multiple servers with different stepping xeons and they exhibit the same issues with large servers.. Perhaps it's cache coherency problems,

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-12 Thread James Tucker
On 10/13/05, ScratchMonkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --On Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:50 AM -0400 Mahmoud Foda > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To know why your system works better, we'd need to know exactly what the > "standard" kernel was (presumably you don't mean an unadorned kernel with >

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-12 Thread ScratchMonkey
--On Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:50 AM -0400 Mahmoud Foda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ohh wow guys. I think i know why HT works better on my servers? Compile your linux kernals on your servers. Dont use the kernal that comes with your distro. I tried some expirements and HLDS doesn't run good

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-12 Thread ScratchMonkey
--On Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:59 PM +0200 Nic Strix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: thanks for the advice. now to figure out how to do that.. For Red Hat systems (including Fedora and Centos), download and install the kernel source RPM (from the SRPMS directory). This puts the

RE: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-12 Thread Nic Strix
BIOS method. Check your motherboard's manual to see how to access the BIOS and to enable/disable HT if yor system supports it Nic From: "Vapok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source Date: W

RE: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-12 Thread Vapok
Noob question: How do you turn HT on in DoD: Source? Thanks ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-12 Thread Nic Strix
thanks for the advice. now to figure out how to do that.. From: Mahmoud Foda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:50:34

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-12 Thread Mahmoud Foda
ywhere. Its unbarible to play. But with HT on > > its > > like smooth and a dream. > > > > On 10/8/05, Nic Strix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > HT turned off and now dod:s runs on 32 with minimum to no lag! Thanks > > all. > > > >

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-10 Thread Ian mu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > > >To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > > >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source > > >Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:33:58 -0400 > > &

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-10 Thread Mahmoud Foda
>Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > >To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source > >Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:33:58 -0400 > > > >This topic has nothing to do with wh

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-08 Thread Nic Strix
HT turned off and now dod:s runs on 32 with minimum to no lag! Thanks all. From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source Date: T

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-07 Thread Marcelo Bezerra
Hope it was easy. Gave up complaining it a long, long time ago... :( On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 12:11 +0100, Ben Kennish wrote: > Hi, > > I know this sounds rather picky of me but PLEASE can people not start a > new topic by replying to an existing one and then changing the subject > and message text.

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-07 Thread Ben Kennish
Hi, I know this sounds rather picky of me but PLEASE can people not start a new topic by replying to an existing one and then changing the subject and message text. Cos your email client sends out a header saying that it's in reference to the e-mail you replied to and when I view messages in "th

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread William Warren
HT is p-4 intel only..if you are running AMD you aren't using HT. Deacon @[dgx] wrote: From what I've seen, and other can probably comment in more detail, hyperthreading can lag a server and we've seen many posts to the list asking about this. I would recommend searching the list archieve. Th

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread ScratchMonkey
--On Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:33 PM -0400 Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Besides, do those benchmarks happen to include game servers? valves engine? I used to run a couple of Tribes Vengeance servers on my dual Xeon and got abysmal performance when they filled until I locked each to a sin

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Ian mu
EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > >To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source > >Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 20:12:59 +0100 > > > >-- > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Nic Strix
other games in place. At least that is what I hope to achieve! From: Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 20:12:59 +0100 -- [ Picked text

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Ian mu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I know, no one has said they are multithreaded, multitasking though it can help in (no not huge amounts but the question is more is it a problem, rather than does it help loads). Now it could well be there is a specific valve issue with some setup

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread dvander
Game servers are not multithreaded. Therefore, they'll only run on one of the virtual CPUs rather than both. It might help if you're running multiple gameservers but certainly not just one. ~dvander > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > For those who think HT is the probl

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Ian mu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] A 32 slot dod:s server is pretty nigh on maxing out most cpu's ~ 3G area is my point which no one seems to have bothered mentioning (and no one seems to have asked what cpus are in the dell), HT or not. Mine were hitting ~ 90% cpu usage on both ht

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Nic Strix
re.com,hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:33:58 -0400 This topic has nothing to do with what are your thoughts on HT... Besides, do those benchmarks happen to include game servers? valves engine? Try and generate th

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Gary
This topic has nothing to do with what are your thoughts on HT... Besides, do those benchmarks happen to include game servers? valves engine? Try and generate the same problem. Load a >26 slot server similar to the original posters configuration. I can generate similar results on a couple of non

RE: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread JCHost.net - Support
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] For those who think HT is the problem, can they explain why benchmarks show most none-multithreaded apps run faster (albeit only slightly) ? Don't really want to turn this into a ht arg

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Ian mu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] For those who think HT is the problem, can they explain why benchmarks show most none-multithreaded apps run faster (albeit only slightly) ? Don't really want to turn this into a ht argument, but I'd like to see some supporting evidence of the var

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Marcel
Hi, afaik you just need to put a "noht" to your kernel parameters to disable hyperthreading. Another way would be to disable HT completely in your kernel config. Google should have some information for this matter. - Marcel Nic Strix schrieb: Hi I have had a DoD:S server running on Linux F

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread aXeR \(AmmoBOX\)
atacentre staff to do the work on your behalf? Regards, Jon - Original Message - From: "Nic Strix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source Hi I have had a DoD:S server running on Linux Fedor

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Deacon @[dgx]
>From what I've seen, and other can probably comment in more detail, hyperthreading can lag a server and we've seen many posts to the list asking about this. I would recommend searching the list archieve. That being said, your lag can also be caused by the server config itself. We have serveral s

Re: [hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Gary
This is correct. At 10:44 AM 10/6/2005, Nic Strix wrote: Hi I have had a DoD:S server running on Linux Fedora 3 64 on a dual xeon box (dell poweredge sc1425) since shortly after the game was released. While running a default server with 32 slots the server lags out with one of the virtual cpu'

[hlds_linux] Hyperthreading and DoD:Source

2005-10-06 Thread Nic Strix
Hi I have had a DoD:S server running on Linux Fedora 3 64 on a dual xeon box (dell poweredge sc1425) since shortly after the game was released. While running a default server with 32 slots the server lags out with one of the virtual cpu's maxing out. It seems to run fine with 24 slots. I read so