Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-03-01 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, Nathan Marcus wrote: This is rediculous talking about starting with Gentoo, and Debian can be scary when you dont know whats going on. That really depends on you knowledge and competency with computers in general. While I wasn't a *complete* noob to Linux, I

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-03-01 Thread Ian mu
I couldn't handle it, but that was just because it took too long from a stage 1 tbh. I don't see any reason at all why people can't start off with a stable and secured o.s and learn from there. Nothing like people thinking they know it all and have left some hole in their system because they don't

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-03-01 Thread Renzo Rosales
Gentoo was my first Linux distro and I had a few years of computer experience to try to understand what was going on with every installation step. The kernel configuration took the longest to comprehend but I got it down and now I know what to compile into the kernel and apply some patches to

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread Ian mu
I personally come from the angle if you need to ask which distro, gentoo debian probably aren't for you (although server side you can scrape through debian ok really). Fed core is ok, but there's a lot needed for a server and more updates which isn't necessarily ideal for a server. Might be worth

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread Chris Jones
Original message from Renzo Rosales: Gentoo is a good meta-distribution if you want to control what gets installed and have a pure system based on your needs. It is, however, not a good distro for new Linux users. Unless they want to become seasoned Linux users very quickly. -- Chris

AW: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread canu
complicated ;) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Chris Jones Gesendet: Montag, 28. Februar 2005 10:27 An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question. Original message from Renzo Rosales

SV: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread Bjørnar Valen
vegne av Chris Jones Sendt: 28. februar 2005 10:27 Til: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Emne: Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question. Original message from Renzo Rosales: Gentoo is a good meta-distribution if you want to control what gets installed and have a pure system based on your needs

RE: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread Chris Adams
February 2005 17:34 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: SV: [hlds_linux] server hosting question. I must say I don't agree there, I started out with Gentoo as my first Linux distro, and I managed quite fine... As long as you know what google.com is, you can use pretty much whatever distro

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread Ian mu
Can't really agree with the above. Its fine if its a pc at home, but simply the length of time it takes makes it unfeasible for many. For me I like to attend site, install o.s, leave site. 30 mins is what I call reasonable to have a fresh install up and running, all customers back online and go

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread Renzo Rosales
Depending on your approach to installing Gentoo, it can be time-consuming or a matter of following a few steps. You could have a Gentoo box running at the home/business with all the pre-compiled packages (for i386 or i686) sitting on a FTP/RSYNC server and when you want to install a package (a DNS

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread Chris Jones
I'm not knocking Gentoo, it's the only Linux distro I'd ever use (as a long time FreeBSD user). But I think most people completely new to Linux (and UNIX in general) would find it difficult. The quick install reference approach assumes you understand things like how fdisk, grub, boot sectors,

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread Ian mu
Sort of off topic, but not really as its relevant to the first question asked. I'm sorry but Gentoo is just plain wrong for new people. It takes ages, lulls you into a false sense of security that you know more than the people that actually make specific server installs for example (why do gentoo

RE: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread admin
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:41 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question. Sort of off topic, but not really as its relevant to the first question asked. I'm sorry but Gentoo is just plain wrong for new

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-28 Thread Nathan Marcus
I vote for Slackware for a new user. Nobody has mentioned it yet. It runs CS quite well, and is pretty easy for a new user to set up. Plus they are forced to learn basic commands, which helps. (if nothing else, startx and stopx are fast introductions :) This is rediculous talking about

[hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-27 Thread HyDrO
Hi im planning onrenting a dedicated box but i would like to know what linux os below is best for running game servers? Fedora, Red Hat 9, Debian or FreeBSD and how many slots would this machine be able to handle? Intel P4 3.0GHz with Hyper-threading 80GB IDE hard drive 1GB RAM

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-27 Thread ploc
agent find out what your bandwidth is limited to and get back to us - Original Message - From: HyDrO To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] server hosting question. Hi im planning onrenting

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-27 Thread HyDrO
1000gb bandwidth - Original Message - From: ploc To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question. out of those 4 I have heard debian spoken about well particularly

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-27 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, ploc wrote: out of those 4 I have heard debian spoken about well particularly a distrobution of debian called gentoo good stuff really depends on the line on how many it can handle the server itself depending on speed of ram I would imagin probably 32 easy

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-27 Thread DLinkOZ
Yep, unlike married life... an occassional period here and there when typing goes a very long way. - Original Message - From: Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-27 Thread Lumpy
FreeBSD is quite a good OS, however most game server binaries are in Linux format and thus require the linux emulation that FreeBSD offers. If you're planning/wanting to run anything in 64-bit mod, then you'd probably be out of luck as I believe the emulators are only 32-bit (I'd love to be wrong

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-27 Thread ploc
tired and lazy next time I shall - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question. Yep, unlike married life... an occassional period here and there when

Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question.

2005-02-27 Thread Renzo Rosales
- Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] server hosting question. Yep, unlike married life... an occassional period here and there when typing goes a very long way