Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-11 Thread Wes Beebee
> Having missed the meeting, anything more recent on MLSR than this: > > draft-ietf-ipv6-multilink-subnets-00 > Multi-link Subnet Support in IPv6 (2002-07-08, Expired) > > draft-thaler-ipngwg-multilink-subnets-02 > Multi-link Subnet Support in IPv6 (2001-11-29, Expired) > > The only refe

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-11 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
f.org; Erik Nordmark (nordmark) Subject: Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2) In message "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" writes: > Hi Ole: > > I think you're getting closer and closer to the models that were > discussed in RPL, 6LoWPAN and Autoconf. > &

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Ole Troan
Erik, >> to expand on the ideas I presented on MLSR (or rather MLSRv2 as it hasn't >> really been described anywhere) as a method for numbering a routed home. >> please let me be clear that I'm not convinced this is a good idea. i.e. why >> not just get< /64? >> I do think we could get somethi

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" writes: > Hi Ole: > > I think you're getting closer and closer to the models that were > discussed in RPL, 6LoWPAN and Autoconf. > > There are several components to the solution that was proposed there: > - capability to register an IPv6 address using

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <17d930d0-572c-482e-8be7-e782e4930...@townsley.net> Mark Townsley writes: > > it would seem that we only have 3 choices once we run out of /64s to > give out on links that for whatever reason we cannot bridge on. > > 1. No IPv6 > 2. NAT IPv6 > 3. MLSRv2 (if what you propose works

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message Ole Troan writes: > Erik, et al, > > to expand on the ideas I presented on MLSR (or rather MLSRv2 as it > hasn't really been described anywhere) as a method for numbering a > routed home. please let me be clear that I'm not convinced this is a > good idea. i.e. why not just get < /

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Mark Townsley
On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Erik Nordmark wrote: > On 10/9/11 3:38 PM, Ole Troan wrote: >> Erik, et al, >> >> to expand on the ideas I presented on MLSR (or rather MLSRv2 as it hasn't >> really been described anywhere) as a method for numbering a routed home. >> please let me be clear that I'

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Erik Nordmark
On 10/9/11 3:38 PM, Ole Troan wrote: Erik, et al, to expand on the ideas I presented on MLSR (or rather MLSRv2 as it hasn't really been described anywhere) as a method for numbering a routed home. please let me be clear that I'm not convinced this is a good idea. i.e. why not just get< /64? I

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Michael Richardson
> "Ole" == Ole Troan writes: Ole> we (as in homenet) do not want to require host changes. I also Ole> think the issues with flooding ND has been explored in RFC4903. RPL benefits from host changes, but if you provide proxy-ND for the hosts which have not changed, then it much the sa

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Hi Ole > we (as in homenet) do not want to require host changes. And when hosts get smarter we (as in people living in homes) should benefit from it. The case of plain hosts was long debated but it would have overloaded the specs quite a bit. What we have so far: The backbone router proxies ND

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Ole Troan
Pascal, we (as in homenet) do not want to require host changes. I also think the issues with flooding ND has been explored in RFC4903. cheers, Ole On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:33 , Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > Hi Ole: > > I think you're getting closer and closer to the models that were > discu

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-10 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Hi Ole: I think you're getting closer and closer to the models that were discussed in RPL, 6LoWPAN and Autoconf. There are several components to the solution that was proposed there: - capability to register an IPv6 address using ND extensions - capability to extend a subnet over multiple hops (R

Re: [homenet] Multilink subnet routing (MLSRv2)

2011-10-09 Thread Mark Townsley
it would seem that we only have 3 choices once we run out of /64s to give out on links that for whatever reason we cannot bridge on. 1. No IPv6 2. NAT IPv6 3. MLSRv2 (if what you propose works, I don't yet see why it wouldn't) I think this is a case of what is the least bad option. We shouldn'