Re: [Hornlist] WWQ & piano

2003-01-28 Thread Warren Van Camp
The third "classic" WWQ & piano piece, no less than the Poulenc, is the wonderful Gordon Jacob Sextet. Thanks, Warren Van Camp. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn

Re: [Hornlist] Woodwind Quintet music

2003-01-28 Thread Warren Van Camp
One more staple of the WWQ literature I haven't seen mentioned yet is: Milhaud: "La Cheminee du Roi Rene" At a higher difficulty level, I think you'd also call Barber's "Summer Music" and Francaix's first Quintette standard repertoire. For classical quintets, most commonly enjoyed by player

Re: [Hornlist] historic performances

2003-01-28 Thread Dan McCartney
Leonard & Peggy Brown wrote: In musical terms; to give a historically accurate performance would require living during the period. I believe you misunderstood Hofstadter's quote. He did not say that to translate one had to live in the exact environment and time in which the original text wa

[Hornlist] Re: Tuning (Prof.Hans Pizka)

2003-01-28 Thread John Dutton
The horn has to be tuned basically, not for every note. This would not be possible. It does not matter if the valve slides are for a single millimeter more in or out, never. But they have to be set in a way, that half step, full step, 1 1/2 steps are correct, at least for the "center" of the h

Re: [Hornlist] RE: historic performances (Yay for)

2003-01-28 Thread Aleks Ozolins
If you like the Gardiner recordings, why not check out the Hogwood Beethoven set. I got mine for like 30$!! All the symphonies and some overtures. I think Halstead is playing and boy is it fantastic. The seventh it just racaus! Whether they played like this back in the day is yet to be seen, but I

Re: [Hornlist] tuning in general & in particular

2003-01-28 Thread Scott Pappal
Professor Pizka: I believe that Howard (and others) was refering strictly to the NAMING of a chord as opposed to the TUNING of a chord. In the chord you quote from Goetterdaemmerung, do you call this a bb minor chord? I certainly don't - its an e-flat minor triad, so built from the "bottom up." Of

[Hornlist] RE: historic performances (Yay for)

2003-01-28 Thread Baucom, Fred
Hi John, I like your reply very much...the Gardiner Beethoven recordings are my favorite. ButI would maintain that I like them because they are the most musical (to my taste), and not because they most closely mirror history. Weather is nice in Sacramento today, also. Best regards, Fred

[Hornlist] RE: historic performances (Yay for)

2003-01-28 Thread dodgejt
Hi All, Ok, you can call me a College student, and a lousy natural horn player at that, and I'm surely no speciallist in period instruments; However, I love the sound of natural horns, baroque and classical woodwinds and especially the natural trumpets played in the mozartian transcription

RE: [Hornlist] historic performances

2003-01-28 Thread Baucom, Fred
Guess that's why those 18th and 19th century dudes had such problems with Bartok, Adams, and Ligeti... More seriously, I would cede both the points made by Hofstadter and the musical translation by Leonard, but would question the relevance. I would find an performance/recording of Beethoven's 7th

Re: [Hornlist] Tuning

2003-01-28 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Best answer ever to this thematic. Bravo Lawrence. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > In a message dated 28/01/2003 18:27:25 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > > Yo! I heard her do this little 'circus trick' as she called it du

Re: [Hornlist] tuning in general & in particular

2003-01-28 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Dear friends, this is all about very funny, your comments on this. As long as you ae the only play who adjusts himself or herself to a piano, it does not matter how fast & how you adjust your tuning. But if you play in the orchestra or the wind ensemble, you have absolutely not the time to bend

Re: [Hornlist] tuning in general & in particular

2003-01-28 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Goetterdaemmerung first chord is fixed from top: bb - gb -- eb. The upper note bb forces the whole chord. .. "Howard Sanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > "Prof.Hans Pizka" wrote: > > > > I would apprecciate it very much, if less experienced or le

Re: [Hornlist] Should I get my horn stripped?

2003-01-28 Thread Scott Hartman
Hi and howdy, Another 2 cents. I've had the lacquer stripped off of two of my horns. Here are the pros and cons from my vantage point. It is much easier to take care of a lacquered horn. There's a reason they put that lacquer (or epoxy) there. Unlacquered horns seem to have a softer feel and

[Hornlist] Re: Thailand

2003-01-28 Thread JKosta
Timothy's description reminds me that when we (for example in the USA) are at our crowded local shopping mall, auditorium, public place, school, etc. it would be nice to think of the other people not as strangers, but as our neighbors - and future friends who we have not yet met. - Hopefully we

[Hornlist] Conn 10D's and Thompson Cases

2003-01-28 Thread Jen Gilbert Gesinski
I recently had the bell cut on my Conn 10D. Silly me, I had just assumed that I would be able to put the horn in the existing flat case that I've had for my 8D all these years. It was only after I had the bell cut that I realized the 10D has a wider wrap than the 8D and won't fit into the flat ca

[Hornlist] Thailand

2003-01-28 Thread Timothy F. Thompson
I recently returned from a long trip out of town and had deleted most of the horn list messages just for lack of time. So it's ironic that the first one I picked up after my return was Hans Pizka's note about his observations while in Thailand. Ironic because I had also just returned from 15 day

[Hornlist] historic performances

2003-01-28 Thread Leonard & Peggy Brown
I get a little quote everyday in my mail box. Today's reminded me of how I feel about historic performances on period instruments: " - I really do feel that genuine translation of text requires understanding of the text, and understanding requires having lived in the world and dealt with the phys

[Hornlist] Recent updates to hornplayer.net (28th January 2003)

2003-01-28 Thread updates
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[Hornlist] RE: TUNING..........

2003-01-28 Thread PLJ59
One word. LISTEN. Phil Jacobs ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Tuning

2003-01-28 Thread PMANSUR
Tuning is a matter of PLAYING IN TUNE, not one of getting all the slides exactly so-so. It is a matter of listening and harmonizing and getting intervals correct. Orchestras, bands, and choirs perform more nearly in just intonation than in equal-tempered intonation, except when pushed into equ

Re: [Hornlist] tuning in general & in particular

2003-01-28 Thread Howard Sanner
"Prof.Hans Pizka" wrote: > > I would apprecciate it very much, if less experienced or less "exposed" players >would hold back their insufficient or inadequate or exaggerated advise & let the >professionals provide their method. It would be wise for the majority of horn players >to follow the adv

Re: [Hornlist] Tuning

2003-01-28 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 28/01/2003 18:27:25 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yo! I heard her do this little 'circus trick' as she called it during her > masterclass at the Banff workshop. She pushed the main slides in all the > way > and played notes on pitch; then pulled them out

Re: [Hornlist] tuning in general & in particular

2003-01-28 Thread Bill Gross
Several folks have commented on good musicians ability to play a horn in tune with the tuning slide all the way in or all the way out. I take it from this statement that what these horn players are doing is adjusting the way they play using what they hear from the horn and the other instrument(s).

Re: [Hornlist] Tuning

2003-01-28 Thread PMANSUR
In a message dated 1/27/03 2:23:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Froydis Ree Wekre had this party trick where she would pull all the slides as far as they would go, then procede to play a piece with a piano, in tune... >> Yo! I heard her do this little 'circus trick' as she called it dur

Re: [Hornlist] Should I get my horn stripped?

2003-01-28 Thread J. Thomas Hampton Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this is a radical, heretical idea with no foundation in chemistry, physics, or acoustics, but I suspect Myron Bloom's marvelous 8D sound would have come through pretty much the same even if Myron had been playing on the shiniest, most gleaming, highly polished,

Re: [Hornlist] Should I get my horn stripped?

2003-01-28 Thread Alan Cole
Maybe this is a radical, heretical idea with no foundation in chemistry, physics, or acoustics, but I suspect Myron Bloom's marvelous 8D sound would have come through pretty much the same even if Myron had been playing on the shiniest, most gleaming, highly polished, brilliantly lacquer-coated 8

Re: [Hornlist] Should I get my horn stripped?

2003-01-28 Thread J. Thomas Hampton Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The horn repair man at a music store close by recently suggested that I get the lacquer my horn stripped because he said it would give it a nicer sound quality. I have a silver-nickel King Eroica double horn with a detachable bell. I just want to know opinions before

Re: [Hornlist] WWQ & piano

2003-01-28 Thread Dan Phillips
Francis Poulenc and Ludwig Thuille sextets are standard rep, and both lots of fun. On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 09:27 AM, Heribert Kröger wrote: I am searching music for woodwind quintet and piano. Any ideas? ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTE

[Hornlist] WWQ & piano

2003-01-28 Thread Heribert Kröger
I am searching music for woodwind quintet and piano. Any ideas? Cordially Heribert Kröger ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn

Re: [Hornlist] Tuning & WWQ

2003-01-28 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
No, Sorry, I just get my "Zichoriegschlaber" as morning coffee, provided by my wife, nothing strong (my stomach cannot stand it, anyway never before Fidelio or Long Call - nobody knows the effect), more milk than coffee. Ha, ha ! Watch my other letter about tuning. Greetings Hans .

[Hornlist] tuning in general & in particular

2003-01-28 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
As said before, tuning is not that difficult, preconditioned that the "ear training" is adequate. If there was no ear training while at school or at music school, or if there were no piano lessons before (both work), then any tuning will remain a nightmare. What me bothers most in this discussi

Re: [Hornlist] Tuning & WWQ

2003-01-28 Thread Olav Traa
The coffee is strong in Munich today... :) Re WWQ music : I would like to recommend a piece called "Aires Tropicales" by Paquito d'Rivera. This beautiful little gem writen by the Cuban composer d'Rivera is sure to gain in popularity. This guy knows how to write for the horn!!! A joy to play and

Re: [Hornlist] Tuning

2003-01-28 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
David, did you do the same as I once did: pulling all the strings out first - or break the hammers before playing the piano? Ha,ha ! The trick works better on a white piano than a black one. Upright pianos tend to make a weird noise, if you pull the strings out, while the lid should remain open

Re: [Hornlist] Reinhardt Concerto

2003-01-28 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Travis, I have the score of this concerto. It is typed in as Finale file, but I have to check it first. Even I work fast, all depends upon the time left, as I have a very tough schedule at the moment. But we can make an arrangement. Just write me privately. I will do my best to get the Concerto

[Hornlist] just for adults (humor)

2003-01-28 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Yesterday, during Goetterdaemmerung first act rehearsal, our German-Rumanian cellist told us a Hungarian "proverb": "Forr marrried men: girlfrriendd eeess forr married men like whetstone forr scythe !" My only comment: other people other "wisdom". -- Prof.Hans Pizka email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] te

Re: [Hornlist] Tuning

2003-01-28 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Yes, a hand horn piece. Ha, ha ! "Olav Traa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Now this is third hand information (Can anyone confirm this?) but I heard > that: > > Froydis Ree Wekre had this party trick where she would pull all the slides > as far as the