Re: [Hornlist] NHR yet strangely HR

2003-02-28 Thread Dave Tuttle
And let's keep the discussions limited to the real weapons of mass destruction, like oboes, saxaphones and conductors... - Original Message - From: "Joshua Cheuvront" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] NHR yet strange

Re: [Hornlist] NHR yet strangely HR

2003-02-28 Thread Joshua Cheuvront
Thank you Sgt. Dutton for injecting some sense into the fray. Althought I don't know the exact number, I'm sure we have many former and current enlisted men and women who are a part of this list. There is absolutely NO REASON why they, or any of the rest of us should have to put up with this

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Yamaha 861 horns

2003-02-28 Thread Weshatch
In a message dated 2/28/2003 9:40:50 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Funny you mention the A=442. I played on a Holton for the longest time > (A=440) and had trouble playing in situations where I had to tune that > high. > > Holton horns are tuned to A=446 with no hand

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Joel Lazar
Wouldn't the politically correct, substitute for "old wives' tale" be "urban legend" ? Or would that be perceived as displaying bias against city-dwellers? Best wishes, Joel Lazar Bethesda MD ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://musi

Re: [Hornlist] Who were the horns? Gods & Gens

2003-02-28 Thread Jerryold99
In a message dated 2/28/2003 11:41:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > No idea who the horns were but they were great. Best > thing about an otherwise dreadful movie. > > Eric James > Hi Eric, A movie that provides an intermission is just too long!! The horn playing save

[Hornlist] Re: A question for the list

2003-02-28 Thread Ron Boerger
> From: "dumusic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Hornlist] A question for the list > > I need some input about a situation that has developed in our community > concert band. > > We are experiencing a period of significant growth, adding almost one > player > per week. Currently we have 50 musi

Re: [Hornlist] Who were the horns? Gods & Gens

2003-02-28 Thread eric_d_james
No idea who the horns were but they were great. Best thing about an otherwise dreadful movie. Eric James On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:39:49 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi all, > > As long as we are on the subject ... I saw > "Gods and Generals" last night. Does anyone > know who did

[Hornlist] Paxman horns

2003-02-28 Thread Jjhornman
Looking for used paxmans 20l xl or new world, anybody got any? Thanks, Hoss ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Conn 8D

2003-02-28 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
In a message dated 2/28/2003 1:05:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I had a horn walk into my shop for a "bath" yesterday that I hadn't seen > yet - It is stamped Conn 8D on the bell, yet it is brass (thought those > were 28 Ds?) with silver slides and wasn't wound anythin

[Hornlist] I imagine that this guy can flutter tongue very, very well

2003-02-28 Thread John Mason
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[Hornlist] Apology accepted

2003-02-28 Thread Cabbage
Jerry O' spouse took offense when Bob O used the expression "Old Wive's Tale." My wife...asked me to relay to you that if you continue to refer to her "tale" in future hornlist comments, you and she will have to be taken to the hospital to have her size 7 1/2 extracted from your you-know-what. **

Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 861 horns

2003-02-28 Thread Woodyhorn
Yes I am lurking out there. The YHR 867 took the place of the 861. It had the same bell throat but was heavier at the bell. This was to take some of the edge out of the sound. The thumb spatula was also different and better, I think. In fact, I feel that the YHR 867 was a better horn than the 86

[Hornlist] Conn 8D

2003-02-28 Thread BARBARA LEE HUNTER
I had a horn walk into my shop for a "bath" yesterday that I hadn't seen yet - It is stamped Conn 8D on the bell, yet it is brass (thought those were 28 Ds?) with silver slides and wasn't wound anything like an 8D, and plays horribly! Have they changed the design? Is this a counterfit? It is in a C

[Hornlist] First message, perhaps last!!!

2003-02-28 Thread Joe DUKE
I see no purpose in all that politlcal talk, and did not subscribe to the list, to see or hear such!! I am an amateur, over age 70, and am still trying to learn, and wish to see ONLY hom info, and ONLY horn player info, not local newpaper stories, re-run!!! You folks who wish to discuss the worl

Re: [Hornlist] A question for the list

2003-02-28 Thread J. Kosta
This sounds like it could be a very troublesome situation.. I suggest considering this approach, with the goal being to obtain good results but without changing the way the band is organized and operates. Privately talk with the current principal horn and explain what pieces you would like to per

Re: [Hornlist] Letter from Dennis Brain/Why no modern piston horns?

2003-02-28 Thread Jerryold99
In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:54:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > and the thumb throw lever is engineered so that it has a very > long throw to rotate the valve Hi Jim, If it is string action sometimes the hub around which the string drives the rotor can be turne

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Jerryold99
In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:39:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Strange. Because his valves had decent compression (Holton 179) and over the > > course of 2 or 3 years of this they completely lost it. > > Any other reason? Bad quality control at Holton? > > -Willia

[Hornlist] A question for the list

2003-02-28 Thread dumusic
I need some input about a situation that has developed in our community concert band. We are experiencing a period of significant growth, adding almost one player per week. Currently we have 50 musicians, five of them playing horn. Our regular horn section has been four players for some time. T

RE: [Hornlist] Letter from Dennis Brain/Why no modern piston horns?

2003-02-28 Thread James O'Briant
Alan Cole wrote, in part: > The real question is how come rotary valves > are used on instruments that don't have stacked > double airways -- e.g., single horns in Bb or F, > "German style" rotary-valve trumpets, tenor > horns, tubas, etc., That's a heck of a good question. I play primaril

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Jerryold99
In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > W- > > That's what is known as an "old wife's tale". (My apologies to any old > wives > who may be offended by my remarks.) > > Bob Osmun > www.osmun.com > Dear Mr. Osmun, My wife accepts the apology

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Yamaha 861 horns

2003-02-28 Thread Valkhorn
Funny you mention the A=442. I played on a Holton for the longest time (A=440) and had trouble playing in situations where I had to tune that high. When I got my schmid it wanted to tune to A=442 or a little higher (gotta love German pitch). And most of the tasks I have now are A440 so I'm con

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Valkhorn
Strange. Because his valves had decent compression (Holton 179) and over the course of 2 or 3 years of this they completely lost it. Any other reason? Bad quality control at Holton? -William In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:29:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subj:RE: [

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Valkhorn
Check, check, check, check. Good deal :) I do most of that already :) -William In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:26:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subj:RE: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!! > Date:2/28/2003 7:26:31 AM Pacific Standard Time > From:mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Robert Osmun
W- That's what is known as an "old wife's tale". (My apologies to any old wives who may be offended by my remarks.) Bob Osmun www.osmun.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:50 AM To: [EMA

RE: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Robert Osmun
1. Thorough oiling with proper lubricants, including mouthpipe, at least twice a week. 2. Weekly scrub of mouthpipe. 3. Monthly flush of entire instrument (without soap). 4. Annual cleaning, check over, repairs and adjustments as necessary. Bob Osmun www.osmun.com -Original Message- From

Re: [Hornlist] Letter from Dennis Brain/Why no modern piston horns?

2003-02-28 Thread Alan Cole
Rotary valves make it easier to build stacked double airways. Imagine double horns built with piston valves -- the valves would have to be double length to accommodate the 2 separate airways & the resulting overall configuration of the horn might come out semi-strange. Then again, some of us

[Hornlist] Re: Yamaha 861 horns

2003-02-28 Thread Robert Marlatt
I played a Yamaha 861 for ten years. It is a good, solid, reliable Geyer copy. You can only buy it used as it is discontinued. The replacement model is the 667V, with a few design changes. I sold my 861 after switching to an original Geyer to help finance a hand horn. A couple of years ago I go

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Valkhorn
What do you suggest is "good maintenance" -William In a message dated 2/28/2003 6:50:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subj:RE: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!! > Date:2/28/2003 6:50:22 AM Pacific Standard Time > From:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED

[Hornlist] Letter from Dennis Brain/Why no modern piston horns?

2003-02-28 Thread Jim Gray
Hornlisters: Why do modern horns use exclusively rotary valves? Is it simply to eliminate weight? I read with interest Dennis Brain's letter to Gordon Grieve of 3 Feb 1953, in which Mr Brain compares his B-flat Piston Raoux with A and C valves to the "big german horn". He attributes the "sof

Re: [Hornlist] Daring Pictures On Classical CD Covers (Article Link)

2003-02-28 Thread Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied Health Science
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmmm... so long as noone takes a photo with the Horn in a strategic > location... The Gronitz company has a "naked woman with her tuba," in the tradition of the Besson euphonium Bettie Page look-alike. Roger Bobo appears naked with tuba on his webs

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Valkhorn
The hiss pop test is vey dangerous though. Repeated performance can destroy the compression of your valves. I've seen it happen. An old student I used to know always took out his slides without depressing the valves. Eventually the continuous pops ruined the compression. -William In a mes

RE: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Robert Osmun
First of all- Experience tells me that any Conn horn with 10 years of use on it is ready for a valve rebuild. We almost never see horns that have had consistently good maintenance, and corrosion, not wear, is what prematurely destroys valves. The best (and only) way to accurately determine valve

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!

2003-02-28 Thread Valkhorn
What I do is the trick you use to see if there is a leak in a bicycle tire. Take a large bathtub and completely submerge the horn in it with the leadpipe sticking out or some such. Then blow into it, and if you see air bubbles creep out of any place on the horn, you know if you have air leaks :)

Re: [Hornlist] NHR yet strangely HR

2003-02-28 Thread Valkhorn
I'm sorry sir. I have great respect and admiration for you but I also believe in the Freedom of Speech. No matter what you have to say (whether its rediculous or logical, insane or common-sense) it is protected under that First Amendment. Now as to keeping it out of the hornlist well I do agree

Re: [Hornlist] Daring Pictures On Classical CD Covers (Article Link)

2003-02-28 Thread Valkhorn
Hmmm... so long as noone takes a photo with the Horn in a strategic location... (I'll probably regret saying that too) -William In a message dated 2/28/2003 6:28:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subj:[Hornlist] Daring Pictures On Classical CD Covers (Article Link) >

[Hornlist] Elkhart Bells -- (Charles Renfro)

2003-02-28 Thread rettro
A few distinguished members of this list have made references to the difference in bell density between the pre-letter 8D's and the C thru N series horns. The pre-letter horns, having a heavier bell, have or seem to have a superior sound. Question: Would silver plating a letter series bell mak

[Hornlist] Daring Pictures On Classical CD Covers (Article Link)

2003-02-28 Thread Alan Cole
It is to be hoped that no horn players would stoop to this. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-kavanaugh022803.asp ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] NHR yet strangely HR

2003-02-28 Thread John Dutton
"For those who fight for it, freedom has a taste the rest of the world will never know." - inscription found upon an ammo can at Khe Sahn 1968 Those who have not studied military history should not rashly make comparisons to Viet Nam. Only broad generalizations are being made on this list