And let's keep the discussions limited to the real weapons of mass
destruction, like oboes, saxaphones and conductors...
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From: "Joshua Cheuvront" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] NHR yet strange
Thank you Sgt. Dutton for injecting some sense into the fray. Althought I
don't know the exact number, I'm sure we have many former and current
enlisted men and women who are a part of this list. There is absolutely NO
REASON why they, or any of the rest of us should have to put up with this
In a message dated 2/28/2003 9:40:50 AM Central Standard Time,
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> Funny you mention the A=442. I played on a Holton for the longest time
> (A=440) and had trouble playing in situations where I had to tune that
> high.
>
>
Holton horns are tuned to A=446 with no hand
Wouldn't the politically correct, substitute for "old wives' tale" be "urban
legend" ?
Or would that be perceived as displaying bias against city-dwellers?
Best wishes,
Joel Lazar
Bethesda MD
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In a message dated 2/28/2003 11:41:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> No idea who the horns were but they were great. Best
> thing about an otherwise dreadful movie.
>
> Eric James
>
Hi Eric,
A movie that provides an intermission is just too long!!
The horn playing save
> From: "dumusic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Hornlist] A question for the list
>
> I need some input about a situation that has developed in our community
> concert band.
>
> We are experiencing a period of significant growth, adding almost one
> player
> per week. Currently we have 50 musi
No idea who the horns were but they were great. Best
thing about an otherwise dreadful movie.
Eric James
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:39:49 -0800 (PST),
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> Hi all,
>
> As long as we are on the subject ... I saw
> "Gods and Generals" last night. Does anyone
> know who did
Looking for used paxmans 20l xl or new world, anybody got any?
Thanks,
Hoss
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In a message dated 2/28/2003 1:05:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> I had a horn walk into my shop for a "bath" yesterday that I hadn't seen
> yet - It is stamped Conn 8D on the bell, yet it is brass (thought those
> were 28 Ds?) with silver slides and wasn't wound anythin
You'll probably have to cut and paste this link, but
it will be worth the effort. --John
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/030228/168/3dtgd.html&e=14&ncid=1047
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Jerry O' spouse took offense when Bob O
used the expression "Old Wive's Tale."
My wife...asked me to relay to you that if you continue to
refer to her "tale" in future hornlist comments, you and she
will have to be taken to the hospital to have her
size 7 1/2 extracted from your you-know-what.
**
Yes I am lurking out there. The YHR 867 took the place of the 861. It had the
same bell throat but was heavier at the bell. This was to take some of the
edge out of the sound. The thumb spatula was also different and better, I
think. In fact, I feel that the YHR 867 was a better horn than the 86
I had a horn walk into my shop for a "bath" yesterday that I hadn't seen
yet - It is stamped Conn 8D on the bell, yet it is brass (thought those
were 28 Ds?) with silver slides and wasn't wound anything like an 8D, and
plays horribly! Have they changed the design? Is this a counterfit? It is
in a C
I see no purpose in all that politlcal talk, and did not subscribe to the list, to see
or hear such!!
I am an amateur, over age 70, and am still trying to learn, and wish to see ONLY hom
info, and ONLY horn player info, not local newpaper stories, re-run!!!
You folks who wish to discuss the worl
This sounds like it could be a very troublesome situation..
I suggest considering this approach, with the goal being to obtain good
results but without changing the way the band is organized and operates.
Privately talk with the current principal horn and explain what pieces you
would like to per
In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:54:10 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> and the thumb throw lever is engineered so that it has a very
> long throw to rotate the valve
Hi Jim,
If it is string action sometimes the hub around
which the string drives the rotor can be turne
In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:39:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> Strange. Because his valves had decent compression (Holton 179) and over the
>
> course of 2 or 3 years of this they completely lost it.
>
> Any other reason? Bad quality control at Holton?
>
> -Willia
I need some input about a situation that has developed in our community
concert band.
We are experiencing a period of significant growth, adding almost one player
per week. Currently we have 50 musicians, five of them playing horn. Our
regular horn section has been four players for some time. T
Alan Cole wrote, in part:
> The real question is how come rotary valves
> are used on instruments that don't have stacked
> double airways -- e.g., single horns in Bb or F,
> "German style" rotary-valve trumpets, tenor
> horns, tubas, etc.,
That's a heck of a good question.
I play primaril
In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> W-
>
> That's what is known as an "old wife's tale". (My apologies to any old
> wives
> who may be offended by my remarks.)
>
> Bob Osmun
> www.osmun.com
>
Dear Mr. Osmun,
My wife accepts the apology
Funny you mention the A=442. I played on a Holton for the longest time
(A=440) and had trouble playing in situations where I had to tune that high.
When I got my schmid it wanted to tune to A=442 or a little higher (gotta
love German pitch). And most of the tasks I have now are A440 so I'm
con
Strange. Because his valves had decent compression (Holton 179) and over the
course of 2 or 3 years of this they completely lost it.
Any other reason? Bad quality control at Holton?
-William
In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:29:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> Subj:RE: [
Check, check, check, check.
Good deal :) I do most of that already :)
-William
In a message dated 2/28/2003 7:26:31 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> Subj:RE: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!
> Date:2/28/2003 7:26:31 AM Pacific Standard Time
> From:mailto:[EMAIL
W-
That's what is known as an "old wife's tale". (My apologies to any old wives
who may be offended by my remarks.)
Bob Osmun
www.osmun.com
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1. Thorough oiling with proper lubricants, including mouthpipe, at least
twice a week.
2. Weekly scrub of mouthpipe.
3. Monthly flush of entire instrument (without soap).
4. Annual cleaning, check over, repairs and adjustments as necessary.
Bob Osmun
www.osmun.com
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From
Rotary valves make it easier to build stacked double airways. Imagine
double horns built with piston valves -- the valves would have to be double
length to accommodate the 2 separate airways & the resulting overall
configuration of the horn might come out semi-strange. Then again, some of
us
I played a Yamaha 861 for ten years. It is a good, solid, reliable
Geyer copy. You can only buy it used as it is discontinued. The
replacement model is the 667V, with a few design changes. I sold my
861 after switching to an original Geyer to help finance a hand horn.
A couple of years ago I go
What do you suggest is "good maintenance"
-William
In a message dated 2/28/2003 6:50:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> Subj:RE: [Hornlist] Horn Related!! Please read me!!
> Date:2/28/2003 6:50:22 AM Pacific Standard Time
> From:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED
Hornlisters:
Why do modern horns use exclusively rotary valves? Is it simply to
eliminate weight? I read with interest Dennis Brain's letter to Gordon
Grieve of 3 Feb 1953, in which Mr Brain compares his B-flat Piston Raoux
with A and C valves to the "big german horn". He attributes the "sof
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hmmm... so long as noone takes a photo with the Horn in a strategic
> location...
The Gronitz company has a "naked woman with her tuba," in the tradition of
the Besson euphonium Bettie Page look-alike. Roger Bobo appears naked
with tuba on his webs
The hiss pop test is vey dangerous though. Repeated performance can
destroy the compression of your valves.
I've seen it happen. An old student I used to know always took out his slides
without depressing the valves. Eventually the continuous pops ruined the
compression.
-William
In a mes
First of all- Experience tells me that any Conn horn with 10 years of use
on it is ready for a valve rebuild. We almost never see horns that have had
consistently good maintenance, and corrosion, not wear, is what prematurely
destroys valves.
The best (and only) way to accurately determine valve
What I do is the trick you use to see if there is a leak in a bicycle tire.
Take a large bathtub and completely submerge the horn in it with the leadpipe
sticking out or some such. Then blow into it, and if you see air bubbles
creep out of any place on the horn, you know if you have air leaks :)
I'm sorry sir. I have great respect and admiration for you but I also believe
in the Freedom of Speech.
No matter what you have to say (whether its rediculous or logical, insane or
common-sense) it is protected under that First Amendment.
Now as to keeping it out of the hornlist well I do agree
Hmmm... so long as noone takes a photo with the Horn in a strategic
location...
(I'll probably regret saying that too)
-William
In a message dated 2/28/2003 6:28:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subj:[Hornlist] Daring Pictures On Classical CD Covers (Article Link)
>
A few distinguished members of this list have made references to the difference
in bell density between the pre-letter 8D's and the C thru N series horns. The
pre-letter horns, having a heavier bell, have or seem to have a superior sound.
Question: Would silver plating a letter series bell mak
It is to be hoped that no horn players would stoop to this.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-kavanaugh022803.asp
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