Re: [Hornlist] Rauch Horns

2003-10-13 Thread David Goldklang
Actually, one of the three is not a Rauch, but originally a Conn 6D that was customized by Dan Rauch. The second one has a long waiting list of people who want to try it. The third one is listed in Euros, despite being sold by someone in Texas. I inquired about that horn and found out that i

Re: [Hornlist] Rauch Horns - 3 on hornplayer.net

2003-10-13 Thread Jerryold99
Hi Hoss, One of the three is a hybrid with 6D valves One is #90 which would be one of his earliest horns. One is a model R4 which, if it is a Model 4, is a full Bb/F full double descant. It might be worthwhile to check out #90. The last Rauch I saw sell was at the IHS this summer and it was

Re: [Hornlist] tone color etc.

2003-10-13 Thread Valkhorn
Hehehe. Anyone can own an airplane if they have the money, but just because you buy one doesn't mean you know how to fly it. -William ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc

2003-10-13 Thread Valkhorn
Seems like that's more of an American phrase... I sure hope that wasn't an insult meant to someone because if it is that sure is a low blow. -William In a message dated 10/10/2003 3:18:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subj: Re: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kr

[Hornlist] Response to alloy opinions

2003-10-13 Thread dlambert
Hi everyone, Thanks for all your generous help, sometimes these lists can be a bit exclusive. Just to clear something up which may not need clearing up, I am not searching for the "ultimate" horn. I am a firm believer that the horn is what you make of it, based on my own experience. I had to mak

RE: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc

2003-10-13 Thread Chris Tedesco
I've never noticed any stuffiness, not even on a Yamaha descant. (Which is a great horn by the way.) To me, a few major factors that determine "quality" of an instrument are sound, intonation, and slottiness. I think Yamahas are way more slotty(cabbage?) than other brands. It often turns peop

Re: Fwd: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc

2003-10-13 Thread Chris Tedesco
Wait, Nascar is something other than boring? Sorry I couldn't help myself, Chris \--- Dan Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Begin forwarded message: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:23:04 AM America/Chicago > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] horn

RE: [Hornlist] tone color etc.

2003-10-13 Thread Hans Pizka
Many should read it every day ! so I repeated & repeat it again. Hans Pizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Best choice for a warm tone is single F brass, but what to do with the high notes ? Get a Bb-side added. If the Bb-side does not satify for the extr

RE: [Hornlist] tone color etc.

2003-10-13 Thread Hans Pizka
But, Wilbert, how about the Mendelssohn Nocturno with the Alex 107 Ooops, most of you would play it on the Bb-side anyway, so it would not matter, while I - with my 62 years - still play it on the F-side except the f# & when it goes up to g#. Here the thumb valve helps with the Bb-side. ==

[Hornlist] English sayings (was kranz bore etc)

2003-10-13 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 10/10/2003 23:19:10 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As the english would say, > eat my shit I rather suspect that this is an american saying - it's certainly not English. :-) All the best, Lawrence AOL is having problems at the moment - if you do not receive

Re: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc

2003-10-13 Thread Brian Baker
Would the English really say that? I've live here in England and have not that expression. What was that about generalisations?? Brian. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] horn tone colour me

[Hornlist] 5 tips...

2003-10-13 Thread David Goldberg
FYI, I just stumbled on this website: http://www.sbomagazine.com/sbomag/apr03/upfront.html which offers lots of advice about how to select young folks for the honor/frustration of learning to play horn and maximize the likelihood of their success. { David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] }

[Hornlist] MR. Becker Geryer/Kruspe

2003-10-13 Thread Leonard & Peggy Brown
>>>Subject: Re: Kruspe and Geyer Wraps >>>To answer your question concerning the physical differences, you need to first look at the bell shape, and size. The Kruspe bell is quite large in the stem, throat, and flair. This makes for a very broad sound, and wide pitch center. To offset the "wo

[Hornlist] Brochures

2003-10-13 Thread Paul Mansur
Hi! I am moving soon and have to downsize my memorabilia. I have some materials I'd like to share with any one who is interested, provided you pay for shipping costs. I have brochures and handbooks such as: Bach Embouchure & Mouthpiece Manual, Selmer No. 77 Ultimate double Horn (2); several

RE: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc

2003-10-13 Thread Steven Ovitsky
So what's your point??? Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com >Subject: Re: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc >As the english would say, eat my shit >Hoss ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://m

[Hornlist] Speaking of the BBC Symphony...

2003-10-13 Thread Paul Kampen
Message text written by The Horn List >I'm not sure who is playing first in the BBC Symph. these days (Tim Brown, maybe?) but the opening horn solo is breathtaking, a must hear. < Dear Eric and List The BBC Symphony has two first horns - Tim Brown and Nicholas Korth. I will try and find out whic

Re: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc

2003-10-13 Thread Paul Kampen
Message text written by The Horn List >As the english would say, eat my shit Hoss __< Dear All I wouldn't! - and I have never heard anybody else make such a crude comment. More tea vicar? Cheers Paul Kampen ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your

[Hornlist] Test, please ignore

2003-10-13 Thread fbaucom
Test(checking connection to and from hornlist...haven't received any mail from hornlist this weekend) ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] Hoss, how much?

2003-10-13 Thread Leonard & Peggy Brown
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:51 AM >Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Horn repair?? > You would be best to go across the pond to learn the ART of horn building- here in america I feel it is LESS than an artform because most make

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Cold sores, etc

2003-10-13 Thread Clayton
Clayton Whetmore, here: Dr. Martin W. Layman wrote: If what you are having is canker sores intra-orally, these are not viral. They are inflammatory in nature, caused by a hyper-reactive immune system, I have found that two things influence how often I got the intra-oral, canker sore ulcers.

[Hornlist] AIR Horns 2004 - alert!

2003-10-13 Thread Karen McGale Fiehler
Hi Everyone, It's only October and registration for A.I.R. Horns 2004 is already 60% full! Remember, registration is limited so if you're interested in attending, I urge you to send in your registration form and deposit in the near future. http://www.miss-karen.com/airhorns.htm This year's fe

[Hornlist] Orsi Horn

2003-10-13 Thread Carl Bangs
Does anyone know anything about this company. I just purchased a single F Orsi horn on EBAY, and after some minor dent repairs and joint and brace soldering it plays quite well. I was able to play the entire range from pedal F to concert high C (written G an octave above the staff) on it with r

Re: [Hornlist] English sayings (was kranz bore etc)

2003-10-13 Thread Jjhosshorn
I appologize list Hoss the pigheaded american ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] English sayings (was kranz bore etc)

2003-10-13 Thread CORNO911
TIME TO GO PRACTICE AND STOP GENERALIZING AND SENDING INANE POSTINGS. GIVE US ALL A BREAK !! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] tone color etc.

2003-10-13 Thread David Goldberg
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hehehe. Anyone can own an airplane if they have the money, but just > because you buy one doesn't mean you know how to fly it. Well, you could probably fly it once. { David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } { Math Dept, Washtenaw Com

Re: [Hornlist] MR. Becker Geryer/Kruspe

2003-10-13 Thread Herbert Foster
I'm a very smart person who knows very little about horns, so I'll give you an answer :-) If you performed the experiment, the two horns would be different, but an Analysis Of Variance would show that the difference between the horns would be same as the difference between two horns of the same wr

Re: [Hornlist] MR. Becker Geryer/Kruspe

2003-10-13 Thread Bob Osmun
Dear Leonard, I would imagine the difference would be minimal, since it is the mouthpipe, and bell have the greatest impact on playing characteristics. It is certainly possible that the openness of a Geyer wrap would contribute to less resistance than the tighter Kruspe wrap. One would have to put

[Hornlist] Kohled sores

2003-10-13 Thread HornCabbage
Paul wrote The idea of lancing the blisters - if you let it get that far - makes one shiver - but I reckon it speeds up the process as you remove the nasty - BUT BEWARE of the fluid within - it is highly contagious and you MUST soak it up and dispose straight away, not reusing the dab to mop up an

Re: [Hornlist] 5 tips...

2003-10-13 Thread Herbert Foster
A well written article. I do find fault with discouraging kids with large lips. There are too many counterexamples. I was recently told that my lips are too thin--I have trumpeter's lips. Herb Foster --- David Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI, I just stumbled on this website: > > http://

Re: [Hornlist] MR. Becker Geryer/Kruspe

2003-10-13 Thread Dave Tuttle
I have played a Patterson 8D conversion that had been fitted with a 9D bell. I found it to be a better suited horn for my preference and taste. More compact in sound and response, without loss of the 8D character. It's worth looking into, if you're so inclined. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Hornlist] English sayings (was kranz bore etc)

2003-10-13 Thread Jjhosshorn
sure thing, Hoss would like to unsubscribe from the list- good god I get moved out faster than rush limbaugh- maybe you'll get me for pill popping too! I would like to unsubscribe Hoss ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.

[Hornlist] Joseph Mourek

2003-10-13 Thread Gary Greene
Friends, I regret to have to inform you of the death of one of our fellow hornists. He lived in the Chicago area and died on 13 September 2003. He was not a member of the horn list, but apparently one or more listers forwarded our postings to him. I did not know the gentleman personally, but

[Hornlist] ORSI

2003-10-13 Thread Billbamberg
It is the woodwind ORSI, Prof. Romeo. His web site is: http://www.orsi-wind-instruments.it/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Joseph Mourek

2003-10-13 Thread Pete Hanson
The name rings a bell. Maybe someone will enlighten? - Original Message - From: "Gary Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:26 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Joseph Mourek > Friends, > > I regret to have to inform you of the death of one of our fello

[Hornlist] RE:Kruspe vs Geyer

2003-10-13 Thread ken
> A question I have put out to some very smart people and have never gotten an answer. If you started 2 identical bells, 2 identical leadpipes, a mass of pipe of the same bore, and built a Geyer wrap and a Kruspe wrap what would be the difference in playing characteristics between them?

[Hornlist] Re: Joseph Mourek

2003-10-13 Thread Amy Jo McBeth
In reading a book review by our own Paul Kampen, I learned that Mr. Mourek was a long-time member of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. He published a memoir a couple of years ago entitled, "Evolution of a Symphony Musician". His embouchure is one of those featured in Farkas's "Art of Brass Play

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Joseph Mourek

2003-10-13 Thread Amy Jo McBeth
Norman Schweikert wrote a short bio on Mr. Mourek on the occasion of the latter's retirement. That biography may be found in Horn Call, vol. 6 no. 1, 1975. Thanks, Mick Sehmann, for the index!! Amy At 05:18 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: In reading a book review by our own Paul Kampen, I lea

[Hornlist] Cryogenics

2003-10-13 Thread Eldon Matlick
Supposedly cryogenic treatment of an instrument will reduce metal stress made by metal working procedures in manufacter or repair. Any time metal is worked (bended, straightened, etc.) the metal gets harder (more brittle) and does not respond as easily to vibration. Temperature treating can eithe

Re: [Hornlist] Cryogenics

2003-10-13 Thread Ray Horton
Just think, Eldon, if only you'd had your trumpet frozen, back in the ninth grade at Eastern High School (Middletown, KY). When Mr. Welch went down the row, looking for the worst looking trumpet (to switch it's owner to horn) - he might have passed you by - and who knows where you'd be now! Ray Ho

[Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-13 Thread MichaelK216897
Hello all, I read the article that Mr. David Goldberg suggeted, and one of the things it said about recruiting horns (for succesful players or playing) was looking at the physical factors of the players. I will paste what it said: > 1. Recruit for success. > > > Also take

[Hornlist] Cryogenics

2003-10-13 Thread Dave Tuttle
Perhaps in certain cases it would be better to cryogenically treat the player, not the horn? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] Meinl Bells

2003-10-13 Thread Alex Mastrando
Hello all, okay... yet another question for my absolutely favorite horn peeps out there! ;-) I recently purchased a Meinl bell for my 8D on the recommendation of a friend. Prior to his recommendation, I hadn't heard of Meinl. (I thought Meinl was a tuba maker... but that's a different person appa

[Hornlist] Re: Meinl Bells

2003-10-13 Thread c y
they make the bells(and valves) for rauch, berg, hill(although he changed last year), alexander( i think), lewis etc...many more so basically if you have tried a few horns you have tried a meinl made bell... they are all different specs though... the one for the conn is made to specs for that

[Hornlist] Re: 5 tips...

2003-10-13 Thread Joshua Cheuvront
Just started teaching a 6th grader last week with somewhat full lips. Seems everyone has been trying to convince him to switch to tuba because he's fairly tall for his age. On top of that, the guy he's been taking lessons from until he came to me has done an absolutely top-notch job of teachin

[Hornlist] Re: 5 tips...

2003-10-13 Thread Scheimy
My first teacher was a bit like that in terms of the fact that he taught me all wrong. He told me to use more mouthpiece pressure starting as soon as I reached the Bb horn notes (Ab and beyond.) Only now am I beginning to understand how terribly he taught me. I also have very full lips, and r

[Hornlist] Re: Cryogenics

2003-10-13 Thread CORNO911
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[Hornlist] Re: Lip Size

2003-10-13 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 10/13/2003 6:45:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Hello all, > I read the article that Mr. David Goldberg suggeted, and one of the > things it said about recruiting horns (for succesful players or playing) was > > looking at the physical factors