RE: [Hornlist] Valves

2003-12-03 Thread Hans Pizka
Michael, rinse the horn carefully, oil through slides (first slide), perhaps loose the back screw of the trigger, give it a very light knock, which might loosen a too tight bearing plate (the valve cap loosened before (not unscrewed). Move the trigger. It should work then. Regarding first chair:

Re: [Hornlist] keeping horn in working condition when not in play.

2003-12-03 Thread Valkhorn
If you have the horn at home, just play a little on it each day. Fifteen minutes should do the trick. A good horn is like a violin, you really should play it every now and then or if you don't, the next time you play it the valves could be stuck or much worse the oil could be gummed up. I only

Re: [Hornlist] Valves

2003-12-03 Thread Valkhorn
Holton rotor oil is very bad. It is an oil which dries out very rapidly and is also difficult to apply. However since you only have three days, go down to K-Mart or Wal-Mart. Look in the shower or bathroom section and find a shower or sink hose attachment. They should have some for about 4 dolla

[Hornlist] keeping horn in working condition when not in play.

2003-12-03 Thread MichaelK216897
Hello again, I have a question now, regarding the care of a horn that is not going to be played until about the last 2 days of the week. Its because my band director, gave me one horn for school, and one to keep at home (so i dont have to lug one around all the time. I use

[Hornlist] Valves

2003-12-03 Thread MichaelK216897
Hello everyone, I have a question regarding valve sluggishness. This last Sunday I was at my Youth Symphony rehearsal, andmy trigger was giving me problems with sticking. Finally when we play Capriccio Italien, in the middle of the 2 horn solo, as I activiated the trigger, i do

[Hornlist] Re: John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread GKHeise
I agree that his concert pieces require repeated listening for full appreciation. I thought that the concerto wasn't especially exciting, but I enjoyed the interplay between the horn and the winds and the horn and the percussion. It also showed how concertos have evolved from being melodic sol

RE: [Hornlist] pedagogy / horn singing

2003-12-03 Thread Matt Menger
Thanks to all who posted their views and helped me out with this project. I'm still finishing it up, but if I end up using any of your info I will be sure to recognize you as the author. Thanks, Matt Menger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

[Hornlist] Film Composer Quiz

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Cole
Dear Friends, OK, I'm back home after band rehearsal. The tidbit about Saint-Saens as the 1st composer of an original movie score came from Episode No. 75, titled "Schickele Mix: The Movie," in Peter Schickele's long-running series of musically informative & entertaining "Schickele Mix" progra

RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Chris Tedesco
Certainly not in John Williams' vault! In all seriousness Korngold, Bernard Hermann, and Max Steiner come to mind for good music on it's own. Chris --- Alan Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even though not all movie music is great, or even good, many great > orchestral scores are locked away in

[Hornlist] 1976 Alexander catalog upload

2003-12-03 Thread Klaus Bjerre
Thanks to Paul Mansur and Peter Piorkowski it has been possible for me to upload the trumpet and horn pages from the 1976 Alexander catalogue. I have to issue a couple of disclaimers: These .jpg files are based on 300dpi scans, which make the files quite huge in size. Freaks like myself want the

Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Cole
Right you are! Saint-Saens it is. I'll get into the radio show which talked about that after I get home from band practice (in case anybody's interested). -AC. At 04:55 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: Well, they talk about compilations, etc, but make note of a 1

Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Amy Jo McBeth
Well, they talk about compilations, etc, but make note of a 1908 French film by Henri Lavedan (L'assassinat du duc de Guise) with a score by Saint-Saens. A. At 05:45 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: So who does Groves say it was? -AC. At 04:17 PM 12/3/2003

Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Cole
So who does Groves say it was? -AC. At 04:17 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: I "cheated" and looked in our on-line Grove...can't help it, I work in a library! Amy ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at h

RE: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread Hans Pizka
Very sorry, I wrote this during day time & had a performance today. And I do not drink any alcohol since years (with very few exceptions, I admit). But I took pity on the "Mouthpice" (sic !) sent by Alan Cole. What a nice typo. So I had to try out other typos. ==

Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Cole
If nobody comes up with the quiz answer this evening, I'll give the answer tonight after I get home from band rehearsal. Not only that, I will cite the source. (Not bad for a rank amateur, eh?) Given that I am not a musicalologist myself, & that I know the answer only because I heard it on th

Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Amy Jo McBeth
I "cheated" and looked in our on-line Grove...can't help it, I work in a library! Amy ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Paul Mansur
One of the first famed composers to write for film was Igor Stravinsky. Another who wrote for film was Gershwin. P Mansur On Wednesday, December 3, 2003, at 04:05 PM, Alan Cole wrote: Quiz: Which major composer wrote the 1st motion picture music score? -AC. ~~

Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Valkhorn
In 1915 D. W. Griffeth combined an orchestral score pieced together from existing classical music for the film Birth of a Nation. Al Jolson did most of the songs for the first "talkie," The Jazz Singer and that was in 1927. For most of the early films and such I don't think you can attribute it

Re: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread amegenity
Hans,believe I am detecting a bit of German Scotch here?? - Original Message - From: Hans Pizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'The Horn List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing a.g., insert bigger end of Mousepeice i

RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Cole
Not Prokofiev.-AC. At 03:10 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: Prokofiev? Amy At 04:05 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: Quiz: Which major composer wrote the 1st motion picture music score? -AC. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] se

RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Amy Jo McBeth
Prokofiev? Amy At 04:05 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: Quiz: Which major composer wrote the 1st motion picture music score? -AC. ~~ At 03:52 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: I bet a lot of John Williams's music that is in the background (behind dialog, etc.) is a

RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Cole
Quiz: Which major composer wrote the 1st motion picture music score? -AC. ~~ At 03:52 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: I bet a lot of John Williams's music that is in the background (behind dialog, etc.) is a little less "accessible" too. Composing for film is diff

RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Greg Campbell
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:40:46 -0600, "Timothy A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > [John Williams's] movie scores almost always are immediately accessible, but also > bear > repeated listening, unlike some other popular composers. On the other > hand, > his concert works seem to require repeate

RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Cole
Even though not all movie music is great, or even good, many great orchestral scores are locked away in the vaults of Hollywood. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ One thing that I find interesting, though, is that while John Willi

RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

2003-12-03 Thread Timothy A. Johnson
I too was at the concert. About as far up in the highest balcony as one could get, but I was just glad I got seats before they were all sold out. And the sound was superb, even though there seemed to be about a two second delay from the time the musicians started to play and I heard it. One thing

Re: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread Valkhorn
You could always get a PipStick... I play off the leg all the time, and I never needed a pinky hook or flipper or strap. I always found that if your left hand is at the proper angle and your left hand is naturally 'grippy' enough so that you can pull the desired amount. But as a side note, yo

Re: [Hornlist] christmas brass

2003-12-03 Thread Justin Fletcher
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 07:17, David Jewell wrote: > Listers - as it is now after Thanksgiving I have started the christmas > music, and over the years I have collected all sorts of brass collections, > including Dallas Brass, several "studio" groups and almost all the Canadian > Brass stuff. The Ba

Re: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread Herbert Foster
I play off the leg--it's more flexible and helps breathing. However,one disadvantage of playing off the leg is that it changes the balance point of the horn, and the left hand has to pull the horn towards the face. Thus, I need something to keep my fingers aligned with the keys. When I play on the

[Hornlist] Purchasing a new Horn.

2003-12-03 Thread Steve Williams
Gentlemen, Many thanks for the invaluable opinions. I have not changed my mind about purchasing new as I am in the enviable position of being able to indulge. Stephen Williams. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/ma

RE: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread Hans Pizka
a.g., insert bigger end of Mousepeice intwo leakpipe closing. Haw-haw-haw-gr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Cole Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 3:32 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing E.g.,

Re: [Hornlist] christmas brass

2003-12-03 Thread Clayton
Clayton Whetmore, here: David Jewell wrote: p.s. If anyone has a copy of the Canadian Brass Christmas cd's, the ones with them all in sweaters around a christmas tree, amazon.com has a nice collection of Canadian Brass music. See if Canadian Brass Christmas

[Hornlist] christmas brass

2003-12-03 Thread David Jewell
Listers - as it is now after Thanksgiving I have started the christmas music, and over the years I have collected all sorts of brass collections, including Dallas Brass, several "studio" groups and almost all the Canadian Brass stuff. Just yesterday I was listening to the Galliard Brass album an

Re: [Hornlist] Booze

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Cole
Oh, that's making me thirsty. Too bad for me that I had already consumed my total lifetime capacity by the time I was 45 years old, eh? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. At 10:08 AM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: Ach, Laddies & L

Re: [Hornlist] Booze

2003-12-03 Thread Walter Lewis
Ach, Laddies & Lassies... I suggest that if ye gootta flush out the valves ya be fugal and use a cheap Scotch such as Dewers on the valves and use the Glenlivet in your valves... lol...no, I've not been at the Glenlivet this am...just my whacked sense of humor... I read once on the back o

Re: [Hornlist] Booze

2003-12-03 Thread David Jewell
Anne - the wonderful thing about doing this is, you will have much scotch left in the bottle, and if you were to pour it down you, the sluggishness of the valve will no longer matter - especially if it is not a precious single malt. paxmaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hornfolk,I have been advised

RE: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Cole
E.g., Insert Smaller End Of Mouthpice Into Leadpipe Opening. -AC. ~ At 03:29 PM 12/3/2003 +0100, you wrote: For some people it might be necessary to state "push the button on ON when you start the machine" ho-ho-ho, but it is true. Left hand is where the

RE: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread Hans Pizka
For some people it might be necessary to state "push the button on ON when you start the machine" ho-ho-ho, but it is true. Left hand is where the thumb points left ... or .. what side of the hand should be up then Red light is on top, while green is the lower light etc. There is

Re: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
In a message dated 12/3/2003 12:44:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Very important: water empty the horn carefully after playing & oil the > horn then before laying it down for a while. > > Rinse the horn several times a year, using a very mild detergent (dish > washer a

Re: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread Chris Tedesco
That's what happens often when you buy a cheap grip! The best grip I've seen floating around is the one made by leather specialties. Treated velvet (or something like that) touches the horn, with plastic between the velvet and the leather to prevent nastiness. www.brassarts.com has the best deal

RE: [Hornlist] valves & grease & rinsing

2003-12-03 Thread Hans Pizka
Jeweller supply in the internet. I will check the addresses & let you know. There is one starting with "RUBY .." Regarding the other things regarding handschutz (hand guard) and pinky hook and flipper you are right absolutely. Special, if the horns weight rests on the flipper & thus on the joint o