Re: [Hornlist] garland

2006-12-31 Thread Chris Tedesco
Could you possibly be referring to the metal-shattering sound when played at ff or fff ? :) I have heard of a few people who overcame this by using a non-original bell, has anyone else had this experience? Chris - Original Message From: hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Horn List Sent

RE: [Hornlist] garland

2006-12-31 Thread hans
Off course. It is not my maker of my double horns. Mr.Worischek, who makes horns in the traditional way, even the bell is cut, it is cut off the long, one piece bell (one piece from valve section to the very end. No, I spoke of another very prominent maker not far from my place. His craftsmanship

RE: [Hornlist] garland

2006-12-31 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
Thank you Hans. I have seen the page, and I have seen the process live in other shops. I am with you in my preference for the bells made in the manner described, but there are certainly many who prefer spun bells. I do not own one of your horns or flares (although a Viennese horn is on my "wish l

RE: [Hornlist] Questions about articulations and editions fo MozartHorn Concerto #1 in D

2006-12-31 Thread Steve Freides
Very good. I've printed out the one I'm working on and will give it a look later. Happy New Year to all. -S- > -Original Message- > From: Michiel van der Linden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:25 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Questions

Re: [Hornlist] Questions about articulations and editions fo Mozart Horn Concerto #1 in D

2006-12-31 Thread Michiel van der Linden
Maybe the easiest way is to download the New Mozart Edition score. It's free under some restrictions, and the most authorative score you can find anywhere in the world. http://dme.mozarteum.at/DME/nma/nmapub_srch.php Steve Freides schreef: One of my students walked off with my son's horn part

[Hornlist] Questions about articulations and editions fo Mozart Horn Concerto #1 in D

2006-12-31 Thread Steve Freides
One of my students walked off with my son's horn part to the Mozart horn concerti and he's been working on #1 in D, so I've taken the opportunity to create the part again from the piano/horn copy of the score we still have, inputting the entire thing into the computer music program Sibelius. (I kn

Re: [Hornlist] garland

2006-12-31 Thread Jerry Houston
Pandolfi, Orlando wrote: ... It was in fact another very well known horn maker in Germany (who happens to offer both types of bells for his horns) who explained to me how the metal of the hand hammered bell tapers down in thickness toward the rim, differentiating how the bell rings in relation t

RE: [Hornlist] garland

2006-12-31 Thread hans
Dear Orlando, visit my home page & have a look at www.pizka.de/making.htm to see how a bell is made. The bell is by no means madew in a similar way as copper plates or silver cans are made of a piece of metal by hammering it flat & make it wider & wider. The reak good bells are made, - as said bef

Re: [Hornlist] garland

2006-12-31 Thread Jerry Houston
hans wrote: Quite a good response. The other responses, telling about thinnest part of the bell being the outher flare, are wrong. It seems they had never seen how bells are made or were made in the past. Thanks for the correction, Hans. That incorrect explanation was given by my horn teacher

RE: [Hornlist] garland

2006-12-31 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
I've had a first hand explanation and demonstration by a well known American horn maker on the current method of "spinning" a bell, and as Hans describes in his third paragraph, the result is a thicker outer rim. However, the older "seamed" and hand hammered methods more often resulted in the meta