Re: [Hornlist] RE: Home (horn?) repairs

2007-01-26 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
I find that parents are very quick to describe loaned instruments as "junk". I've lost count of how many times I've received nasty letters from parents about how instruments don't work, only to find that the instrument doesn't work because of what daddy has done to it (valves covered in WD4

[Hornlist] One more Russian reading problem

2007-01-26 Thread Klaus Bjerre
My project of documenting brasses via photos may be known ad nauseam. But I find it interesting, and it is something manageable even in my less inspired periods (nothing bipolar, but allergy and arthritis being very dependable on weather conditions). Except exactly about reading Russian. Many R

RE: [Hornlist] One more Russian reading problem

2007-01-26 Thread hans
Can just read LENINGRAD. Greetings Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Klaus Bjerre Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] One more Russian reading problem My project of documen

RE: [Hornlist] RE: Home (horn?) repairs

2007-01-26 Thread hans
Lawrence, you said it very nicely "that the flappy bits on the side of a kid's head don't serve the same function as my own ears - on a kid they are decorative not fuctional" and "that those parents who knew how to read". This is an exact description of how low the human race has sunk in the majo

RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread Melvin Baldwin
From: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Horn List To: "'The Horn List'" Subject: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:17:51 -0600 Looking for some advice on fixing a bad habit I've developed. When I play ascending scales or runs with 1/16th note pa

RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread hans
Great method, but does it really help, if the students idols - some very prominent players - also waive their fingers up in the air not only when playing solo, but also in the orchestra Well, left hand fingers, just to be exact here I had a masterclass once in Japan, at a very famous uni

[Hornlist] Re: Am I Gullible?

2007-01-26 Thread PatentDan Feigelson
I have a Yamaha practice mute, but when I use it, I generally use it without the earplugs (which made the thing mostly a waste of money, paying for the mike in the mute and the amplifier...). Two other suggestions: if you have a screw bell horn, play without without the bell, and if you really

[Hornlist] Re: Audacity/Recording One's Self

2007-01-26 Thread Jeremy Cucco
Marc - Devils advocate aside (and I do see where you're coming from), I have listed some comments below (indicated by >) -- message: 7 date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:46:23 -0500 from: Marc Gelfo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest,

Re: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread David Goldberg
Do we know for certain that it takes more time to depress a valve if your finger begins its motion above the valve rather than on it? I'm not sure. It takes time for the finger to accelerate - the acceleration should be faster cutting through air, as there is less resistance. The finger is t

[Hornlist] RE: Practice Mute

2007-01-26 Thread Kathy Lowe
Well whatdayaknow! It works! At least for what I needed to do, maintain the lips and work on technique. I cut a slit in the bottle to let a little more air escape. I wouldn't want to use it long term (centering some notes was a little wonky) but for the occasional week of business travel, it's

[Hornlist] "Gymnopedies," arr. by Debussy

2007-01-26 Thread Jan Kyle
Hello. I've been off-list for a few months, so please excuse me if this has been addressed recently. My community orchestra is preparing to perform two of Satie's Gymnopedies, as orchestrated by Debussy, and there is some confusion within the horn section (and on the part of the conductor) as

RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread bgross
The double tape does seem better than the rubber band. It'll allow the player to keep his fingers arched like a pianist, instead of laying flat on the paddle > Great method, but does it really help, if the students idols > - some very prominent players - also waive their fingers up > in the air n

Re: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread bgross
The bad is letting tounging and fingering getting out of sync. > Do we know for certain that it takes more time to depress a valve if > your finger begins its motion above the valve rather than on it? I'm > not sure. It takes time for the finger to accelerate - the acceleration > should be faste

[Hornlist] Fixing a fingering problem

2007-01-26 Thread HornCabbage
Carlberg J wrote >So any suggestions on how to break this habit? [lifting a finger off >the valve lever] I've had good luck with students with a rubber band around the valve lever and the finger. Good to be aware of things like this. Good thinking, Carlberg. Another successful wa

RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread hans
Davide, what would woodwinds do or violinists ? === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Goldberg Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:09 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fix

RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread hans
But how about allergies against the glue == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:06 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fixing

[Hornlist] RE: Home (horn?) repairs

2007-01-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On tidbit that I neglected to add to the story and was brought to mind by Hans comment-this actually took place 24 years ago! Not a recent (except in the overall history of mankind maybe) event. Dana Twiss mail2web - Check your

RE: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread bgross
Only one way to find out, I'll stick to it till I have an answer. I think the idea is not to affix the finger to the paddle rather to help remind the player not to move his finger off the paddle. It should help me focus on not moving the finger off the paddle. Right now it really is frustrating

[Hornlist] Re: Am I Gullible?

2007-01-26 Thread hans_illich
Dan Feigelson wrote Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:07:58 -0800: ...Two other suggestions: if you have a screw bell horn, play without the bell, and if you really think you're going to disturb someone (like after 9 pm) you can put a towel over the end of the horn. Doesn't do wonders for intonation or ton

[Hornlist] Re: Re: Audacity/Recording One's Self

2007-01-26 Thread Marc Gelfo
To all list: sorry about forgetting to change the subject line those last couple posts... >> > Agreed, but tone cannot be "measured." Assumptions about the > approximate sound or "tone" can be drawn, but by no means can we > "measure" tone. Ok.. maybe a semantics differenc

Re: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread David Goldberg
Yes, right - these other instrumentalists also have to learn to coordinate their finger movements with other parts of their bodies; woodwinds face the very same problem of excess finger movement above their keys and little holes as do hornplaying paddlewhackers. I haven't ever noticed any thou

[Hornlist] Re: Fixing a Fingering Problem

2007-01-26 Thread Wendell Rider
On Jan 26, 2007, at 7:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message: 18 date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:09:01 -0500 from: David Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fixing A Fingering Problem Do we know for certain that it takes more time to depress a valve if your finger begins its motion

[Hornlist] RE: Audacity - Recording One's Self for tone quality improvement

2007-01-26 Thread Jeremy Cucco
Again - comments below - this time indicated by ~~~ > Absolutely. However, the FFT is graphed on a bi-axis graph (amplitude > and frequency at a given time). Then you don't get the development of sound over time. The way it goes over time is perhaps the most importan

Re: [Hornlist] RE: Home (horn?) repairs

2007-01-26 Thread brassartsunlim
God bless dads with pliers. Dads with welding torches are even better. Bless them all. Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 9:52 PM Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Home (horn?) repairs Well, so mu

Re: [Hornlist] RE: Home (horn?) repairs

2007-01-26 Thread brassartsunlim
I find that the best way to get children to treat an instrument well is to tell the parents how much they have to pay to replace it. Works every time. Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 4:37

Re: [Hornlist] RE: Practice Mute

2007-01-26 Thread Tom Spillman
I agree! It does work! And the price is certainly right, as Herb Foster said. It cost me $1.29, including a half liter of Perrier. I tried it first without the cap on and decided that for me this was not a good answer for me. Then I took and ice pick and poked a little hole, as Kathy sugge

Re: [Hornlist] "Gymnopedies," arr. by Debussy

2007-01-26 Thread PLJ59
The West Suburban Chamber Orchestra (Chicago) performed Gymnopedies a couple of months ago. We played them exactly as marked. No.1 muted all the way through, and in No.2, 1st was open, 2nd was stopped. We were questioned by our conductor the first reading, and after a discussion with him during

[Hornlist] Stuck mouthpieces

2007-01-26 Thread William Crosse
Hello listers, Some years ago my phone rang with a very worried trumpet player (a pro! ) on the other end. He started to explain what he had done to his trumpet - a Benge Custom - with a stuck mouthpiece. He had tried the pliers, with no result. then the mouth piece in the vice, , result twist

[Hornlist] Practicing on the Road

2007-01-26 Thread Droescher/Eitzen
The easiest solution that I have found for practicing on the road, assuming that you don't need your horn, is to use the buzz pipe advertised on Cindy Lewis' site. www.embouchures.com/NoosePipes.htm The Standard Model Buzz Pipe is only 8 1/2 inches long (21 cm). Put your mouthpiece in the open e

[Hornlist] RE: Audacity

2007-01-26 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
Marc, I think we're talking about two different things. What I meant was that if you have any machine make you a nice graph of which harmonics are being sounded and how much of each harmonic is present, what is shown will only be a small portion of what any human being would hear. The h

RE: [Hornlist] Practicing on the Road

2007-01-26 Thread Steve Freides
Keith Eitzen wrote: > The easiest solution that I have found for practicing on the > road, assuming that you don't need your horn, is to use the > buzz pipe advertised on Cindy Lewis' site. > > www.embouchures.com/NoosePipes.htm -snip- How is this different from just buzzing one's mouthpiece

[Hornlist] Analyzing tone

2007-01-26 Thread Richard
In my years working for the Parmly Hearing Institute at Loyola University in Chicago, we used FFT processors in a number of experiments to try and clarify the tonal content of certain very impure forms of sound. My experience with those processors has left me with some understanding of what the

[Hornlist] Thore? Are you still there?

2007-01-26 Thread Simon Varnam
Hi, Thore. Have you made any progress with your problem? I'm afraid I've already thrown out the message with your original question in it. Sorry! If you are still having trouble why don't you download the Audacity software (free) from , record your

[Hornlist] Finger discipline

2007-01-26 Thread hans
Most answers to the question "fingers in the air & not on the keys" are not dealing with the problem. The finger on the keys is less a technical problem but rather a discipline problem. How can players hold playing discipline if they are not able to keep posture discipline or holding discipline o

[Hornlist] StroboConn is a Tuner... Tone continued and my opinion

2007-01-26 Thread matthew scheffelman
My understanding is that a StroboConn is a type of Tuner. Maybe I was wrong? We used a StroboConn extensively in our wind classes in college. Donald MacCourt (Bassoon of New York Wind Quintet, forever) had one and really believed in its use. Don always explained it was a tuner. With the premise