RE: [Hornlist] Value of Conn Elkhart

2003-08-30 Thread Alan Cole
retty much wrecked -- i.e., that's a candidate for total restoration & modification [ http://hornworks.com/ournew8d.htm ] by the Patterson folks out in L.A. ? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~ Actually, a vintage Elkha

Re: [Hornlist] Value of Conn Elkhart

2003-08-29 Thread Alan Cole
$1,111.11 -- with decent case & mouthpiece. -AC. ~ At 02:56 PM 8/29/2003 -0400, you wrote: How much would y'all say a Conn Elkhart 8D in good condition is worth? Ballpark? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at

Re: [Hornlist] Have a look...

2003-08-29 Thread Alan Cole
What a hunk of junk ! -AC. ~~ At 07:52 PM 8/29/2003 +0100, you wrote: I saw this last night on eBay.com (the US site) and though it looked interesting - valve config etc. Just scroll down the pix to the bottom - bet it makes you smile... Extremly old French ho

[Hornlist] PopCorno (Hot & Buttery)

2003-08-26 Thread Alan Cole
orns (Wilhelm Kopprasch) 16. Allegro vivace. The CD is listed onthe Internet at CD Baby, so people can go there to buy a copy, listen to snippets, & leave commentary. The web address is... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/mlayman Check it out. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax Count

Re: [Hornlist] Mr. Pollack

2003-08-18 Thread Alan Cole
here last fall, that kid was in the clarinet section. I called him over at the beginning of school and said, 'OK, son, give me that clarinet. Here, take this tuba.' " -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~

Re: [Hornlist] maybe not oddball after all

2003-08-15 Thread Alan Cole
hucks, maybe it's worth getting Walter Lawson to fabricate a custom lead pipe for the thing. A Lidl-Lawson compensator -- now wouldn't that be something? Talk about oddball! -- Alan Cole, McLean, Virginia, USA. ___ post: [EMAIL PR

[Hornlist] Maybe Not Oddball After All

2003-08-15 Thread Alan Cole
rning up on eBay with some regularity, so maybe they aren't so oddball after all. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] hornexcerpts.org

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Cole
Were their horns Geyer wrap or Kruspe wrap? -AC. ~~ At 07:01 AM 8/15/2003 +0200, Hans Pizka wrote: I just discovered that the ancient Khmer used horn players for royal ceremonies & the hunt about 1000 years ago. They are to be seen on the mural reliefs in Angkor Wa

Re: [Hornlist] Oregon, Washington, Idaho Hornplayers

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Cole
Cool ! Got a web site? Was Dick Akright involved in making Doc Severinsen's custom Tonight Show trumpet? Does he make other custom brass instruments -- horns, maybe? -AC. ~ At 03:05 PM 8/7/2003 -0400, you wrote: Dick Akright of Oakland, Ca. and myself are opening a

Re: [Hornlist] lawson leadpipe

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Cole
The nice thing about going with the finest possible equipment is that whenever I'm dealing with a performance problem whose cause could be either with me or with the equipment, I know it's not with the equipment. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Vir

[Hornlist] Thanks For The Memories

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Cole
nd, check out... http://www.fairfaxband.org/ -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Alex serial #'s

2003-07-27 Thread Alan Cole
I don't know about late-model Alexes, but my 1958 model has no serial number. The Lawson folks stamped an identifying number into my Alexander 103 for me when they did the restoration & modifications on it several years back. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County),

Re: [Hornlist] New 6D old 6D

2003-07-27 Thread Alan Cole
'm pretty sure the Conn folks did NOT say to themselves, "OK, now that we're bringing out our 8D & 28D, we're going to make sure all our 6Ds coming off the line from now on are lousy." Not only that, didn't Willie Ruff do all his playing on a Conn 6D? (It was

Re: [Hornlist] RE: WES-factory horn testing - NHR

2003-07-25 Thread Alan Cole
I'm no authority -- shucks, I'm not even Catholic, just a recovering Presbyterian -- but if white smoke rising out of the Vatican chimney signaled his election, wouldn't it be Pope Ken? -AC. ~ Another question: if Ken so

Re: [Hornlist] Break in that horn (was error) and Ebay Horn

2003-07-25 Thread Alan Cole
aside his Raoux-Millerau in favor of an Alexander. If he had decided to stand pat, would more of us today be playing French-style horns instead of German-style horns? As Alexander Pope (no relation to Gebr. Alexander) advised, Be Not The First By Whom The New Is Tried, Nor Yet The Last To Cast T

Re: [Hornlist] Holton

2003-07-21 Thread Alan Cole
Didn't manufacturing quality control have something to do with it? -AC. where has LeBlanc gone wrong in sustaining an interest and acceptance at the professional level ? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at

Re: [Hornlist] Orchestral reading session

2003-07-17 Thread Alan Cole
How many horn players know which of the buttons to push on a piccolo? -AC. How often does a horn player get to play piccolo on a Tchaikowsky symphony? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/

Re: [Hornlist] test

2003-07-13 Thread Alan Cole
Wow! 2 tests in 2 days. I feel like I'm back in college -- & no better prepared now than I was back then. -AC. ~~~ At 12:52 PM 7/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: test ___ ___ post

Re: [Hornlist] test

2003-07-12 Thread Alan Cole
Did I pass? ~~ At 01:46 PM 7/12/2003 -0400, you wrote: test ___ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Pop Song for Horn

2003-06-18 Thread Alan Cole
oom - PAH - oom - PAH - oom - PAH - oom - PAH (& so on), also... boom - CHICK - boom - CHICK - boom - CHICK - boom - CHICK - etc. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ what exactly is the role of horn in pop song for

Re: [Hornlist] Valve alignments?

2003-06-14 Thread Alan Cole
through the valves while working the levers up & down. Sometimes the valves get gummy & sluggish from slide grease & dirt getting down into the works. Varsol will take care of that without damaging anything inside the horn. It's a good idea to do the Varsol treatment outdoors

Re: [Hornlist] Conn Horns

2003-06-08 Thread Alan Cole
the basis of how the it responds & not on the basis of extraneous factors such as what you're expecting from a particular brand based on reputation, perceived prestige, whether the cool players are currently using them, etc. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLea

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Junk Horn Project

2003-06-07 Thread Alan Cole
If you're ready for a junk horn restoration project, check out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2537153780&category=16215 -AC. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40

[Hornlist] Anybody Care To Swap Schickele Mix Radio Tapes?

2003-06-05 Thread Alan Cole
If there are any Schickele Mix fans out there on the horn list who would be interested in swapping tapes of Schickele Mix radio programs, please E-Mail me privately (off the list). Thanks. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA

[Hornlist] Oddball Horn Not So Rare After All

2003-06-05 Thread Alan Cole
OK, it looks like those oddball Lehmann-style compensating double horns by Josef Lidl aren't all that rare after all. Here's another one on eBay. Check out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2536409172&category=16215 Cool horn, eh? -- Alan Cole, rank

Re: [Hornlist] An Outdoor Overture

2003-06-04 Thread Alan Cole
ot muffled & not stuffy. It takes practice to get the hang of it. But it's not hard to do, otherwise I wouldn't be able to do it. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. PS: You can hear what An Outdoor Overture sounds like when performed by a d

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Beige "safety strap"

2003-05-30 Thread Alan Cole
OK, for those of us who are endanger our horns by being so klutzy, how about taking a cue from modern Sousaphone technology? That's right -- fiberglass horns. Talk about a dark sound! Shucks, I bet they'd sound downright fuzzy. -- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Vir

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Evaluations

2003-04-05 Thread Alan Cole
What about... Amati American Standard Bach Besson Blessing Buescher Carl Fischer Couesnon Eastman Geyer Huttl King Linz Mirafone Orsi Raoux-Millerau Selmer Winston York ? ? ? ? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA

Re: [Hornlist] Holtons, Competitions

2003-04-03 Thread Alan Cole
on the dimes. (The other 2 are restoring thickness to levers that have worn thin & giving the player a tactile reminder to keep the fingers arched instead of letting them flatten out on the levers.) -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia,

[Hornlist] Looks Like A Mellophone To Me...

2003-04-01 Thread Alan Cole
...and not just because it's built right-handed. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2520318719&category=16215 -AC. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] French horn, horn, et.al.

2003-03-28 Thread Alan Cole
How about Ench-Fray Orn-Hay ? ~~~ She called my instrument the "French fry". However, I told her next time I'd kind of like to play the "French porn". I don't know, what do you all think? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: [Hornlist] Horn, French Horn

2003-03-27 Thread Alan Cole
At rehearsal last night, parts for a new tune were passed out marked Freedom Horns 1 & 3 and Freedom Horns 2 & 4. Next thing you know, no doubt somebody will publish parts for Weasel Horn. -AC. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://mu

RE: [Hornlist] Horn, French Horn

2003-03-26 Thread Alan Cole
El Frencho Horno ~ While we're on the subject, what is the proper Spanish term for 'horn'? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Freedom Horns?

2003-03-26 Thread Alan Cole
The way I heard it, when the phone rings at Smith, Smith & Smith, the guy at the law firm picks up, & the caller asks for Mr. Smith. "I'm sorry. Mr. Smith is in court this morning." "Well in that case, could I please speak with Mr. Smith?" "That won't be possible. Mr. Smith is taking a deposi

Re: [Hornlist] flutter-tongue

2003-03-25 Thread Alan Cole
#x27;s close enough. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. I have to play a work that requires me to flutter-tongue and I can't do it. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at

[Hornlist] Stupid Brass Tricks

2003-03-14 Thread Alan Cole
if most can't. Some Stupid Brass Tricks are actually called for, if rarely, in certain musics. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. At 05:45 PM 3/14/2003 +0100, you wrote: B) is not a stupid Brass Trick, it is a very old Paganinesque trick, which can be

Re: [Hornlist] Singing through the horn

2003-03-14 Thread Alan Cole
category of Stupid Brass Tricks. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~ OK - I've read this a few times, the idea of "singing through the horn." Would someone care to elaborate on this a bit more? Is t

Re: [Hornlist] Mouthpiece rhymes with orange.

2003-03-09 Thread Alan Cole
embedded inside the rim through which gently circulates propylene glycol at 88 degrees Fahrenheit? Or both? I've never seen anything like that on eBay. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ "Who wants this

Re: [Hornlist] Army Bands

2003-03-09 Thread Alan Cole
ice bands has yet fielded a rap or hip-hop group, but with all the government emphasis on multiculturalism & diversity, maybe it's not impossible. Can't you just imagine: Patriotic Rap? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~

Re: [Hornlist] Yikes

2003-03-07 Thread Alan Cole
ine & taking it back far enough in history so you could hand it over to Jan Vaclav Stich. Don't you think old Giovanni Punto would look upon that plain vanilla double horn as oddball in the extreme? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~

[Hornlist] Another Oddball Horn

2003-03-07 Thread Alan Cole
that I've seen in person or in photographs are by Josef Lidl, Brno. A Horn Call article from a year or so back said that Karl Lehmann, Berlin, originated the design circa 1920. No doubt it's a bad design. Otherwise the folks over at Yamaha & Gebr. Alexander would have made s

Re: [Hornlist] Military Bands

2003-03-06 Thread Alan Cole
would be sent to Virginia Beach for a half-year even though the new player had the musical ability to step in right away (after army basic training, naturally). So sometimes the audition scores reflected not just the applicants' musical abilities but the administrative realities as well. -

Re: [Hornlist] Army Bands

2003-03-06 Thread Alan Cole
y of holding down what amounts to a part-time gig in a reserve band while free-lancing, teaching, composing, arranging, or holding down a regular orchestra position. Knowledge is power. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. alumnus, 214th Army Band (Ala

Re: [Hornlist] Letter from Dennis Brain/Why no modern piston horns?

2003-02-28 Thread Alan Cole
" rotary-valve trumpets, tenor horns, tubas, etc., -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. Why do modern horns use exclusively rotary valves? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set y

[Hornlist] Daring Pictures On Classical CD Covers (Article Link)

2003-02-28 Thread Alan Cole
It is to be hoped that no horn players would stoop to this. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-kavanaugh022803.asp ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] Stravinsky & Craft (Link To Article)

2003-02-26 Thread Alan Cole
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/279boocb.asp?ZoomFont=YES ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Vintage 8D for sale

2003-02-26 Thread Alan Cole
How reasonable? -AC. ~~ I have a 7xxx,xxx horn that a friend would like to sell. It is the most mint one that i have ever seen. Laquer is close to 100%. Few mute dings, but really nothing. Original valves are tight. This is a BIG playing 8D. Price is very rea

[Hornlist] I Should Have Clicked The Link

2003-02-19 Thread Alan Cole
If I'd clicked the link before posing the question I would have seen right away that the horn Bob recommended is a different model entirely from those unplayable Blessing-Getzen compensating doubles. -AC. ~~ That's not one of those unplayable Blessing

RE: [Hornlist] Need a reccomendation for school horns

2003-02-19 Thread Alan Cole
That's not one of those unplayable Blessing-Getzen compensating double horns, is it? You know, the ones that force the left thumb too far back because of how the tubing radiates off the 4th valve, placing way too much load on the left pinky. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fa

[Hornlist] Prof. Pizka

2003-02-15 Thread Alan Cole
Hey! I saw The Professor's photo in the February 2003 issue of horn call (page 29). That dude is nearly as old as I am! -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. PS. Our Fairfax Band concert set for this evening (Feb. 15) got snowed out. All the work w

Re: [Hornlist] I remember

2003-02-12 Thread Alan Cole
Left wing saxophones, no doubt. -AC. ~~ Uh, Alan I hope you realize that such comments as the above are not considered correct speech on this list serv. If this keeps up you may be assigned to a re-education camp and forced to listen to saxophones al

RE: [Hornlist] I remember

2003-02-12 Thread Alan Cole
For some background on Joschka Fischer, check out... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59725-2003Feb11.html -AC. Jascha Fischer's (please forgive the spelling) remarks to Mr. Rumsfeld _

Re: [Hornlist] Carl Beyer on Ebay

2003-02-08 Thread Alan Cole
ed to mean. Speaking of eBay, check out the "Matt Stevens" new double horn (Item # 2506614175). It looks like it might really be a Czech-made horn by Josef Lidl -- a decent instrument, especially at the eBay asking price ($649). Caveat emptor, however. -- Alan C

Re: [Hornlist] Should I get my horn stripped?

2003-01-28 Thread Alan Cole
oated 8D you ever saw. -- Alan Cole (rank amateur) McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. Myron Bloom was the principal horn in Clevland at the time and he had a stripped version 8D that sounded marv

[Hornlist] Fwd: New Fairfax Band Recording

2003-01-26 Thread Alan Cole
Dear Friends: Check out the horn playing on the CD described below by my friend Dan Spadoni. Shucks, don't just check out the horn playing, check out the whole thing.-AC. ~~~ A new recording on compact disc by the City of Fairfax Band is no

Re: [Hornlist] Should I get my horn stripped?

2003-01-26 Thread Alan Cole
players with the lacquer-free horns in the only way that counts, by outplaying them. Your ability to do that depends on you, your work ethic, the way you practice, the quality of instruction you receive, & your own individual musicianship, not whether or not your horn is shiny. -- Alan Cole,

Re: [Hornlist] Conn LE 500 .... what is it equivalent to?

2003-01-21 Thread Alan Cole
You're talking about that eBay horn (Item # 2501676298) offered by a music store, right? Looks like a plain old regular Conn 6D to me. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. What is a Conn LE 500 equivalent to or

Re: [Hornlist] Trick question

2003-01-13 Thread Alan Cole
Maybe next it'll be the Condensation Conduit. -AC. ~ When I was in school it was a spit valve ... then, during my working years it was a water key. Now it's a drool outlet. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Hornlist] Trick question

2003-01-13 Thread Alan Cole
I try not to date myself. I'd rather go out with other people. -AC. Those of us in the know were taught by Anna Russel, "it isn't what you think it is, it's condenstion." Thereby dating myself. ___ Horn maili

Re: [Hornlist] Trick question

2003-01-13 Thread Alan Cole
If it's not spit, how come some horns are equipped with spit valves? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ Now, as we are all taught, it is not spit, it is CONDENSATION that collects in the

Re: [Hornlist] Trick question

2003-01-12 Thread Alan Cole
What's your horn doing outside in the chilly winds if you're not out there playing it? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ At 03:44 PM 1/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: When I asked what was the "wind chill fact

Re: [Hornlist] Gold mp rims

2003-01-08 Thread Alan Cole
It's way cool. Plus a gold surface feels warmer & smoother against the player's lipskin than silver. If you're going with the gold, it's important to get a quality plating job. The real question is: What about a platinum or platinum-plated mouthpiece or rim? --

Re: [Hornlist] Need a job?

2002-12-12 Thread Alan Cole
If they gave me an age waiver, do you think I could get my stripes back if I re-enlist ? (I completed active duty 16 Nov 68, SP5 E-5, 02D20.) -- Alan Cole, McLean, Virginia, USA. ~ We are seriously short horn players in the U.S. Army

[Hornlist] December 13 Concert By Potomac Brass Quintet (Of Virginia)

2002-12-06 Thread Alan Cole
. The Potomac Brass Quintet (Of Virginia): Virginia Huff & Sharyl Abell, trumpet Royal Burkhardt, trombone Mark Herzing, tuba Alan Cole, horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn

[Hornlist] Opporknockety Tunes But Once

2002-12-05 Thread Alan Cole
Are you ready for a self-tuning piano? Check out... http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=1858076 -- AC. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn

[Hornlist] Another Oddball Horn

2002-11-26 Thread Alan Cole
Oo-e, what a strange looking horn! Check out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=925149514 -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Hornlist] triple tonguing

2002-11-12 Thread Alan Cole
e lesson to those of us unable to flutter-tongue? The best I can manage is a fake flutter-tongue effect done by throat-growling through the horn while producing tone the regular way. Fortunately for me, flutter-tonguing is needed far less than triple-tonguing. -- A

Re: [Hornlist] robert martel french horn

2002-10-31 Thread Alan Cole
here whose left hands can hold & operate those horns OK right out of the box. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~ i am trying to find out some info on a horn i bought on ebay. its a robert martel horn made in ita

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