Real Juice??? You have to be kidding me Hans. We haven't had real juice
in America since...1941?
We are so glad that food is still cheap (but very good). As you know things
here
in America are not so good, we eat cicken, but it taste like fish...and all
those
bonesack!
Well all this
A foam cup with a straw through the bottom works great, the tighter the seal
between the straw and the bottom of the cup the better.
..and to think the answer to Tchaik 6 was out in the green room next to the
coffee maker!
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Hans you may laugh, but even your beloved Wagner didn't have the horn in
mind for the mighty calls in the Ring..He much enjoyed the Alto Beer Can.
When just enough beer is consumed the F horn harmonics are perfect and the
dragon heads for the hills.
Lucky for us, there were few cans back
Vut es dis? Hans talking about weakness and passing the parts to someone
else?
The same guy who said suck it up and transpose H Horn like everyone else!
Is it customary for the first horn to pass off the low solos in Hary Janos or
all the
low garble that Lizst always writes in the 1st horn
Short of plunking down 120 bucks for a full score, does anyone know where
I can legally get a copy of this part from Des Canyons aux Etoiles?
If the above is impossible please then change the word legally to illegally
and
then let me know.
Thanks
LT
I don't think the 1500-1800 you mention would be a slap in the face. Of
course travel
and hotel would be a given. Maybe some beer money too.
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Im interested in a list of horn players who played in the Berlin Radio
Orchestra. Perhaps on the Western side of the wall. mainly 60's and 70's. Can
anyone help?
Much Appreciated
LT
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OK, thats solved what about the long pedel g in the birds?
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Funny you mention the Gumbert. There are some interesting pieces in them. I
have to wonder about all the Rubinstien. Has anyone played these pieces?
Concerti and symphonies. Seems like today he is all but forgotten. One of the
books
did
introduce me to a great Octet by Sphor. Overshadowed by
Well, I guess if you live in the small world of competitions then I guess the
Gliere is gem of a work, for those who have moved on to gigs that pay
biweekly, instead of by which color ribbon you get, then we know the truth.
Does it bother me that most people would rather listen the a Rachminoff
No, I have never heard his serenade. That would be interesting to hear. Can
you
find it on record?
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I have played both Heldenleben and Mahler 1 without an assistant and it
wasn't fun however it is hard to find rest in both of those pieces.
Practically
everything in the first three movements of the Mahler have to be played
by the Principal. There is a series of sustained notes in the last
Did someone just compare the Gliere horn concerto to the Tchaikovsky
Piano concerto?? I think horn players think too much of this concerto. I
find it just too sappy. There is just no need for that massive first movement
of slow tempi and then that slower second movement. I wish I had a dime
for
Hans Hans Hans.
I know what the word means, your understanding is what is lacking here, but
that is ok, I only know a few words in your language!
Basta means enough..yes yesbut does that apply to you? I don't think you
have had enough. I actually have seen a change in your posts and I
hans
Yes you and others are well equipped to handle this type of problem,but for
others they don't even want to be tempted. Like Steve said, the delete button
works wonders. You can very well see who the message if from, if you don't like
it then don't read it. If you only want to read
Hans
Your English fails you. Sarcasm is also a mystery to you. Unless you were
the
person(s) who sent me the offending emails, then you have nothing to worry
about.
You have shown coolness under attack (either that or some of my posts go over
your head), this is much more impressive than the
I think Hans can take care of himself, he has proven that many a times here.
I don't think we need everyone here coming to his defense, it only hurts his
ego.
I also don't think we need the Anti-Jew emails that two people have sent me.
This only proves my point even more.
There is a saying we
The KM bong holder works well too. Ive used it several times for some
outdoor
Pink Floyd shows.
LT
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I can see it now, some beginning horn student showing up to 6th grade band
class playing Gail's horn.
Good Luck
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ur..perhaps you all need to read my post again. I was actually
complimentary of Hans, I just don't get why he needs to litter this board with
his
ubertestosterone? I would be lying saying he isn't a welcome addition to these
boards, but no one is that good to talk down to an entire race of
So pecky = dead
and
Vibrant=Living
Please elaborate.
Thanks
LT
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Gee Hans, you can't even take a complement without pulling the ubermench
crap. History can't be changed. As much as you like to bash us across the
ocean, you can't change the fact that Hitler led your country and he killed
millions of
innocent kids and that it wasn't until the US got involved,
1. Play it in the right rhythm.
2. High f will not be flat
then (as usual special under stress)
Best comments on these boards in months
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Anyone ever play this piece? Second movement is piano and four horns
only...very interesting.
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Horn in H is in some ways the easiest of transpositions, because of how
the tritone works. Written C is played f# and a written F# is played C. If
you are great with tritones then it won't be a problem.
I would also suggest playing along with a recording. The first horn part in
this movement is
I was noticing an article in groves on Wagner that he originally planned on
the Ring being a 5 opera work, ending with Gutterdammercorno or twilight of the
horn player. Right after the act 8 aria, there was supposed to be a bolt of
lightning that comes out of Funfafnzer's magic staff.
So what happens if you don't play the horn call loud enough and you don't
vake the dragon? Do you play it again?
I can picture a lesson with Hans on this excerpt..
Vake the Dragon
VAKE THE DRAGON
Your comments are as usual, great to have here Hans, thanks!
LT
Isle of the dead is a toughy, especially if you are depending on the
conductor for anything! Two things will help. Saw about 6 inches off the legs
of your
chair and then raise your stand 4 inches. That should do it! I could never
get enough of that thrid horn part at the climax.
LT
I have been reading quite a bit about Stravinsky recently and decided to go
back and listen to the columbia recordings. There is an amazing recording of
the Four Russian Peasant songs. It is sung by the Gregg Smith singers, but it
doesn't list the horn players. Most of the recordings were by
So I take it next year is in the states?
LMK
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I still find it funny when other horn players talk about travel and Ive had
the same thing happen to me. Probably the worse is getting a seat right behind
first class
so that you are last to board.this means that the attendant taking
tickets has a clear view of you and your gear. You really
would you believe I got this nonesense for 2 bucks per? Thats 20 bucks for
the whole shabang. I wonder if this has been corrected in the current version,
but then again, who says what Hans said is the truth?
and once again Hans misses the sarcasm with the high g trillIf I had said
high A
I just picked up a complete Grove dictionary set..5th edition. I found out
some interesting remarks under Richard Strauss. It says that Franz had to
re-write the
original long call because it was unplayable and that is what we have
today.anyone know what the original looked like? Trills up
Great post, thanks Hans!
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Interesting that most Haydn is B Alto and H Alto while there is plenty of B
Basso
in the works or Mozart, and I can only think of the two minor keyed
symphonies where there is B Alto. Mozart wrote a few symphonies in Bflat...24
and 33 I
know..are those in B Alto?..both were written around the
Does anyone have any information on the horn players who played in the
Philharmonia Hungarica during all these recordings? They range from the
late 60's to early 70's. Truly amazing players. I just picked up the the
set with No's 48-59. The Maria Theresia was superb.
It would be nice to have a
Might it be translated in the Tuckwell recording liner notes?
There is also a website, the name has slipped my memory, that you can
type in whatever.the whole German if you need..and it translates it for
you.
Larry
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Hans
Why so bitter? Can't get over May 1945 yet? We are talking about 13 year old
kids discovering Mozart, not about raping anyone's tradition. Sure kids today
are not as nieve as they were many years ago, but what's wrong with discovery
in the world of music? If you can't play more than an
Bear
Thanks for the update, but why Shostakovich? Sure he has written a few of the
greatest tutti horn passages ever and a few nice Cello concerti, but overall
his horn writing is boring. Open up the Alpine Symphony to the pinnacle and
see what real horn writing is about!
We need not forget
wow did this thread get blown up. I think the orignal argument was concerning
a
high schooler who was looking to play the F parts on a Mozart concerto. I
don't think anyone is saying that these transposed parts are for anyone who
actually gets a paycheck playing the horn.
With that said, who
simple task of transposing?? Maybe simple to you. Was there once a time when
the great Hans, was not so great at transposition? Maybe even a bit scared? I
know you would never admit that!
I have seen many young students play the heck out of Ravel's Piano Concerto
in G...they were too young to
yet again it is assumed that the beginning horn student starts out with a
private teacherthis is false, maybe in Europe, but not here in the states.
Usually a young student picks up the horn on the first day of school and then
has to sit next to everyone else in band class and learn to play
yes Hans, we do live on different planets, but we agree on one thing, the
bottom line is the music! Some will study many many years and never get it.
Thanks for the info
Larry
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Do you have to slam everything Hans? I have some news for you, some of us
don't count every time we play the long call and don't post it on our website.
Believe it or not there are people out there who play the horn for fun, not to
defecate all over the great Wolfgang Mozart by using the
I was unaware that Bernard Heiden wrote a concerto for horn. I knew about the
Sonata and the chamber music, but didn't know about a concerto. Does anyone
know this work? I couldn't even find info in a google search.
Thanks
Larry
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Thanks for the insight, but I think Stravinsky and subtle sounds don't
below in the same sentence...at least not in 1912! So are you telling me that
Mahler bell up should be played only off the leg? This is news to me.
I can only imagine what you think when you have to perform a new piece
average stuff.??.orchestras all over the world play average stuff every
night. Strauss has written only a handful of pieces for the horn, why are these
veiled? Are they as horrid as the aforementioned Brahms etudes? Those are in
print right?
It seems there should be more of a push for these
Beauty?? As in the Rite of Spring? Can the horn not produce required bad
carnal sounds? Of course Mahler and Tchaikovsky are different. I still wonder
why, if not for eye candy (sorry don't know the german translation).
As far as Butterfly, if I remember right, Campana Alzata is notated at the
wow, real composer or a pharmaceutical rep? you be the judge. In the real
world
getting your diabetic blackouts taken care of, is much more important than
what notes horn 5 and 6 play. Why not study the score to Mahler 1? Then if you
write something someone has a problem with, you can just
I thought this was a funny description:
http://www.philharmonia.co.uk/thesoundexchange/the_orchestra/instruments/horns
/effects/
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what orchestra does Jim Rome play in?
Larry
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No, I wasn't talking about Brahms or Franz Strauss, I was talking about
Richard Strauss. He composed two early horn etuds, one in Eflat and one in E.
Im
really surprised no one has heard of these. Not even Hans?
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WOW. this is great info. Im going to study the Strauss facsimile a little
later, I do have to wonder about all the breath marks in the thrid mvtreh
31...are those available options or did Von Freiberg take them all?
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I thought it would be fun to compile a list pieces that use bells up while in
the pit..namely in opera and in ballet. I always thought of bells up as a
visual affect, obsioulsy some composers though differently. Ill start with a
few
that Im sure
everyone knows
Stravinsky Rite
Puccini
I am in search of some info and even the music to these two early pieces by
Richard Strauss. Does anyone have the music to these or and info? Thanks
LT
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and how can we forget that huge Mahler rip-off
Ill be seeing you.a la mvt 6 of Mahler's 3rd symphony!
LT
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yeah nothing will get you fired from your orchestra job quicker than your
phone
going off in a rehearsal to the notes of the long call! It would be hard to
blame
that one on the bassoon section. Is there an optional missed high C version?
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Needed: One Natural horn in E-flat, preferably in tune and close to 440. Any
sellers looking to sell cheap?
Let me know
Thanks
L.
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Sorry I wasn't up on my euro/dollar conversion rates. Do you take paypal?
LMK
(let me know)
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sorry I didn't know you don't talk to no names, I guess once money is
involved
its ok? I was going to get Tuckwell to write to you but he was busy. Thanks
for
the response.
Sincerely,
No Name
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