Good day all,
I lamented on the dereliction on the part of 'music' teachers several months
ago. These people have not served their students at all. If they don't have
the time to help students with basic instrumental skills, they could reach
out to competent members of local community orch
I hope that the manufacturers of mouthpieces take into consideration the health
and welfare of their employees. The microscoptic aerosol bits that result from
cutting turniing grinding and polishing are a health hazard to the workers
making the mouthpiece and others around them. There are oth
An idle mind is the devil's workshop.
Isn't about time that Kenny Betts got a real day job? Perhaps if he was
gainfully employed we would be spared the April Fools Day pranks etc.
Prof. G. must be appalled at his former student's gratuitous lack of dignity.
Have a good day.
Bill
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Last weeks' recording discussion quickly turned into a wrangle and a primer on
recording studio techniques. I think Kendall was decrying the none too
subtle affect that the recording industry was/is having on individualism
of tone production and musical interpretation b
Did anybody on the list listen to the Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra performing
Beethoven Symphony 7 Sunday evening of KMZT FM (KMozart)? This was one of the
most disappointing performances of the seventh that I've ever heard.
Articulations and tempos where not what I remember from when I hav
Why not practice while standing? Then the chair height won't make any
difference. (Some) folks that play and practice while seated, horn on knee,
have a tendency to face the bell of the horn toward their bellies, deadening
their hone tone. Practicing while standing will develop proper postur
Mr. Weiner makes a good point. I doubt that the manager of the Han Brass Works
thought that after watching re-runs of Baywatch he could hoodwink gullible
Westerners with crappy copies of brass musical instruments. I have private
students playing on these junk horns supplied by indifferent imp
Has anyone paid any attention to the last Tour de France and the drug
scandals prior to during and after? Do we want the same scrutiny and
humiliation (druf testing etc.)? I don't. Yet someone suggested using
a beta blocker to control perfomance anxiety. The drug suggested for
experimentati
The rumor for the new rules for air travel that I am promulgating are as
follows:
1. No luggage what so ever.
2. No clothes.
3. No metal internally or externally.
4. Nothing carried on to aircraft.
5. Anyone that complains will be subject to body cavity search.
6. If this is a problem for y
Yes, Mr. Melton. Juvenile and peevish replies by adults on the list are
not appreciated by the readers. Perhaps the gentleman in question
should be remanded to kindergarten for rehab on manners and courtesy.
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I'm confused, didn't the Jewish people speak Araimic after leaving the
Babalonians into and much later after the Diaspora? The modern Hebrew
language and alphabet is different than Araimic, see the Dead Sea
Scrolls. Araimic was used by the Babalonians and after 900BC was the
commercial lingu
Bill Bamberg has made a very good suggestion. I would pay to have a
very good tech teach me service my horn. $20.00 is cheap price for a
well structured course with a low teacher/student ratio. A slide show
won't do.
The student should have a list of tools to be bought for the course and
bro
Perhaps the composers are guilty of hubris and hyperbole? Or common
sence.
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Oops. The genleman withe three horns would switch from one to the other
on the same piece of music. Each horn had a different mouthpiece.
Mea culpa. I shall try to be more careful in future.
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I use just two. An M1 Stork with my 801 Hoyer and an M1 Stork with my
descant Hoyer. :)
Much has been written about staying with just one best mouthpiece. The
most dogmatic and hectoring about this was the late Claude Gordon. Phil
Farkas was also an adherent.
Brassy Jim, the pricipal horn wit
Is he the short conductor that keeps the train on time?
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I've enjoyed and have learned much with the perfect pitch dialogue. I
do have a few questions.
1. Is perfect pitch learned or is it genetic? 2. How do
cultural differences ie., Yaqui Indian, Western music educated, Chinese
opera traditions, affect perceived perfect pitch?
I have b
Little Johnny: "Grandma, Grandma, when I grow up I'm going to be a
drummer".
Grandmother: "Now now Little Johnny, you know you can't do both".
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NINE horns, wow.
If you're a temp., you have to grin and bear it. How ever, make the
orchestra pay for the Etymotic ear plugs. If enough temps require this
extra payment, maybe the admin will put the horns trumps and tromboons
where they belong, to the left of the horns, and the dummers waaay
During the bell thread lubrication dialogue and unpleasentness, somebody
described a liquid parafin lube for bicycle chains. Thank you for the
idea.
My sliding glass doors were stricking and no lube would resolve the
problem. I bought the parafin lube, cleaned the tracks and applied the
par
This is an amusing thread. To bad it's not fiction.
I've had two drunks that liked more than a wee nip before
perforemances. One is deceased and the other back to grade school
beginning band. Another thought that the start up orchestra could play
anything. We couldn't and he should have kno
Walmart isn't a crazy shop, whatever that means. The heirs to Walmart
founder are some of the richest people on earth.
If you would like a Walmart in your neighborhood, you can have the
Walmart in Lake Elsinore, CA. Ask your local council or MP to trade a
fish-n-chip or curry take-out to repla
Natural horn studies used to be de rigeur for hornists, so it should
help your over all technique. I don't speak from experience, others
that were lucky enough in there early teachers should provide us with
the insight you seek.
Let's hope that all of Maras interlocutors aren't dealt with in
To those that thought Hans was being a meany or rude. He wasn't. Hand
feeding information to people doesn't help their growth or education.
Remember the od saw? Give a man a fish and fed him for one day. Teach
him to fish and feed him forever.
Telling Erin to check into the Farkas or O.Fran
Nobody has commented on posture yet. Are you stiff and tense, laidback
and casual, or carefully poised and attentive. Many times the hornists
outward appearance reflects their inward attitude.
Hans has addressed attitude. An incorrect atitude can have a
detrimental affect on your posture, dem
My 1995/96 Ulrich Kobl, Katalog Horn, has several band and horn scores.
This is an outdate catalog, priced in DM etc.
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A "Pink Panther" rubber toy!
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Mr. Mumford asks a good question. The lack of good, or, even more
precise; Why the lack of quality, professional grade F horns.
The Brasswinds catalogue lists many "student" model F horns, yet no Pro
F horns. They may also sell the 3/4 wrap kiddee horns, excellent for
marching band, god forbid
A hornist acquaintance couldn't get respect from the staff at the
several colleges and university where her student matriculated until she
got her PHD.
Another hornist, couldn't get respect from the blues clubs because he
played the horn. He played blues very well in my "humble" opinion.
Most
This thread has exposed the raw feelings and misunderstanding of music
education or the lack thereof.
The US does not have a national education system. Our education
"system" is locally funded and supervised. Musical education is at the
whim of elected school boards. The quality of musical ed
Perhaps "Chatty" Cathys' professor was having a senior moment, brain
fart, or a neural neutering? The good professor was giving his
students areal world example of what not to do.
You rock Professor!
May the force of Clamsaa be your light.
--wabotte
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Whilst dining and imbibing (Lone Star beer, Thunderbird wine, pickled
eggs and 3 kinds of kim chee) with friends during New Clamsaa Day, the
real meaning of Clamsaa became bone of contention between the Sachbutts
and Posaunes. After the melee had been cleared by the police and
ambulance staff,
Mr. Bamberg tells us of his son's ability to play all the notes between
the first and second intervals or partials or your favorite label.
Claude Gordon and Jimmy Stamp taught the use and playability of this
area to their students. See Mr. Gordons "Systematic Approach" and
"Velocity Studies"
The PREposterous double rant on pre not unintentional
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If you like being annoyed, how about:
Pre-recorded any thing. The "pre" is redundant.
Metal woods in golf jargon. ??
This is cheerfully stupid 22 gauge rifle or even dumber, a .12
shotgun. And on a Chinese channel, a 45mm pistol.
"We'll keep an eye out for."
Deja vu all over aga
Somebody asked, "Will the day come when our music stand is a flat screen
computer?". The answer is, yes. The Woodwind and Brasswind folks sell
a system call the Freehand Music Pad.
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Hans has a great idea, surgical embouchure implants. Why not neural
implants to enhabce intonation, rhythm, timing and other abstract
conceptions? We hornists with these enhancements could then concentrate
on careerism, backstabbing, arrogance and conductor baiting.
--wabotte
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Loren Mayhews responce needs to be archived in perpetuity for every
hornist. Conductors and stage personnel will listen to a reasonable
solution after a botched perfomance due to improper stage setup. For
armed with Lorens' explanation and ameniable staff, proper horn balance
should be resolv
Bravo Mr. Osmun. Your reply and admonishment to Mr. Bamburg is spot
on.
I don't do complicated work on my horn for the same reason that I don't
work on the brakes on my car and piickup truck. I want these items to
work every time I use them. No excuses and no amateur mistakes by me on
things
Take the horn to a Con(n) dealer, preferably the one you bought the horn
from, and have them fix it. A reputable dealer will fix their lemons
for free.
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Hans is probably right about the ladies problem resulting from
technique. I wouldn't rule out underlying organic problems either.
Cerebral-vascular hypertension should be addressed by an MD. The
technique problem should be addressed by a competent horn teacher.
Glibly diagnosing physical, soc
Drats, say it isn't so. I was hoping my 20 years as a dental
technition/drone would have qualified me to become a horn repair tech.
The hours sounded ideal. And the alcohol debauchery would not alienate
my standing with trolls, 2nd bassoonists, violist', and country and
western freinds.
It a
How I wish that I had the opportunity to study horn as described by
Hans. 1960, at 14 years old, I put aside my accursed trumpet and
started on horn. I was assigned a miserable King single F, given a
fingering chart, and that comprised my sole lesson on horn. Some of my
fellow high school ho
When did the characteristic F horn color become optional. Hans was
right, the F horn tone through out its range is what we are after. The
tone color will vary with the piece of music being played, ie., Ravels'
Pavanne require a more delicate and wistful interpretation than the bold
and mascul
If we were strings, the solution to dbl tonguing and trp tonguing would
be obvious. One doesn't just up bow or down bow, one practices bowing
in both directions.
If we were taught as beginers to tongue both ways, ie: tuh and kuh, dbl
and trp tonguing would be easy.
A simple exersise
Using any h
Cabbage..Sometimes you go to far.
A gentleman does not use a nom de plume to issue insults.
--wabotte USN Ret.
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How about Elliot Higgins, Albequerque Symphony. He also operates
asummer music camp.
Then there is Richter, conductor for several Wagnerian operas.
And, a gentleman whose name I can't remember, conducted/directed the US
Marine Corp Band, retired several years ago.
Re: Outstanding sections.
Th
Larry Jellison wrote that his horn section whispered together while the
conductor berated some other section. Herr Pizka has it right. Always,
as a general rule, pay attention to what the conductor is saying. 99%
of the time, what ever the conductor is harping about will land on your
lap. C
Counting measures, The Darwinian Contract.
Lose your place, lose a chance to breed {succesefully}. Lose enough
chance to breed successefully and eventually eliminate yourself and your
hypotheticaly mathmaticaly challenged progeny from the gene pool.
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The past 15 years, I've been pleased and/or plagued with excellent and
less than excellent conductors. The excellent conductors were niether
timid or tyranical. They were universaly clear in direction and
consistent with cues and tempi. No surprises. No tantrums. No
compromises.
The plague
Endurance is gained by systematic and incremental practice.
Systematic: Range, volume and dexterity.
Incremental: Not expenontial. In other words, two min., four min., six
min., etc. Not twomin., four min., eight min., sixteen min., etc.
Practice something universaly useful. Scales, arpegios
Let me enumirate the reasons I enjoy marching so much.
1.
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The triple horn thread has been interesting. No one has adressed the
advantages/drawbacks of the F Bb Eb triple or the Bb Eb double descant.
I think Eng. Schmidt and Hans Hoyer build these horns.
Batter up?
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Good day,
A question to our British freinds. Is there a Web site or email
address for the Richard S. Addinnsell Will Trust? Also an email address
for Phillip Lane. Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thank you.
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Ah, yes, Tree Top Airline. In the late '60s, the most terrifing flight
of my then short life.
A local radio station had a contest.
1st prize, One way flight anywhere on TTA routes.
2nd prize, Round trip anywhere on TTA routes.
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Tokidoleg,
Mr. Mansur has the best advice, get a real good teacher. If there are
none in your locale, here are some suggestions.
Keep the mouthpiece.
Have your horn examined by a competent Horn repair expert. I had a
new leadpipe installed on my 801 Hoyer. My low range volume increased
JM Haydn Romance for horn and strings dated Aug 30, 1795. JMH
"borrowed" the horn melody almost totally, with some modifications. The
arrangement has little or no relation to Mozarts 2nd movement K.477,
1783.
See Diletto Musicale 832W.A.Mozart-J.M.HaydnRomance, As dur
Fur horn und s
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