I think a lot of people said goodbye to the characteristic F horn sound
long ago and now many more are saying goodbye even to the characteristic Bb
horn sound. At some point it becomes hard to justify not just hiring a
synthesizer player.
I think that many modern horn makers, even some
I find that a lot of players with THEIR particular tone
qualities could be replaced by playing machines easily, as
their tone quality has nothing human or personal, just
"synthetic" noise at a certain frequency. Harsh but true.
Listen carefully & recognize. It includes prominent players
as well.
B
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Bill Bamberg wrote:
> I don't think John Williams would care to write for the traditional F horn
> sound.
Au Contraire
Bill Bamberg wrote:
> I don't think John Williams would care to write for the traditional F horn
> sound.
Au Contraire Bill! If I'm not mistaken, John Williams had V. Derosa play
some of the horn parts for ET on Vienna Horn.
Does anyone know how this came about? Did DeRosa suggest it to Williams
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When did the characteristic F horn color become optional. Hans was
right, the F horn tone through out its range is what we are after. The
tone color will vary with the
Botte
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When did the characteristic F horn color become optional.
Hans was right, the F horn tone through out its range is
what we are after. The tone color will vary with the piece
of music bei
When did the characteristic F horn color become optional. Hans was
right, the F horn tone through out its range is what we are after. The
tone color will vary with the piece of music being played, ie., Ravels'
Pavanne require a more delicate and wistful interpretation than the bold
and mascul
There is only one horn tone, one real horn tone in the world: THE GOOD
HORN TONE or THE TYPICAL HORN TONE.
It resembles the average male voice, a light higher baritone voice.
It does not matter, what instrument be used, as long as the tone colour
is right. Most comes from playing technique. If it
My apologies for the several spelling errors and possible grammatical mistakes in my
recent diatribe. I will proofread better next time, I promise.
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Fellow listers - please forgive the following lengthy diatribe - if you do not wish
to read a lengthy personal polemic, just skip it. Once I began writing this, it all
just came gushing out.
I was fortunate enough to have a live set of horn players live next door to me so that
my initial c
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>As the english would say,
eat my shit
Hoss
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Dear All
I wouldn't! - and I have never heard anybody else make such a crude
comment.
More tea vicar?
Cheers
Paul Kampen
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So what's your point???
Steven Ovitsky
Sotone Historic Recordings
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>Subject: Re: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc
>As the english would say, eat my shit
>Hoss
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Would the English really say that? I've live here in England and have not
that expression. What was that about generalisations??
Brian.
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> > Or an 861 or 867 for that matter- even a good 667. I see no problem
> > in experimenting with equipment but when it affects your practice time
> > stop! Nascar or Formula 1 would be pretty da
I've never noticed any stuffiness, not even on a Yamaha descant. (Which is a
great horn by the way.)
To me, a few major factors that determine "quality" of an instrument are sound,
intonation, and slottiness. I think Yamahas are way more slotty(cabbage?) than
other brands. It often turns peop
Seems like that's more of an American phrase...
I sure hope that wasn't an insult meant to someone because if it is that sure
is a low blow.
-William
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Not once did I say a specific wrap was better for anybody- I've had my luck
with the geyer after a long stint with a Kruspe which was a fine typical Kruspe
playing horn and it sold for a good chunk of money, It's dangerous to
generalize which I never have done!
Best of wishes,
Hoss
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To hoss;
There are many horns made with the "kruspe wrap" as you call it- some fine
instruments, some poor ones.
To condemn all horns made in a specific wrap because you happened to have a
"not so easy to play horn" of this type is simply sophomoric.
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Or an 861 or 867 for that matter- even a good 667. I see no problem
in experimenting with equipment but
x27;ve played that I like better, although the Paxman 25's and the Alex 1103's do
come close in my opinion :P
Finally, it is just opinion from my take on things. Different strokes are for
different folks.
-William
In a message dated 10/10/2003 7:49:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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William asked:
PS: Speaking of Yamahas, every one I've ever played on is stuffy. Has anyone
else had this experience or is it just me and my personal preferences?
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I played a Yamaha 862 for several years and found it to be as open, or even
more open, than an 8D. If I
Speaking of Yamahas, every one I've ever played on is stuffy. Has anyone
else had this experience or is it just me and my personal preferences?
In a message dated 10/10/2003 5:05:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Best choice for a warm tone is single F brass, but what to do with the
high notes ?
Get a Bb-side added.
If the Bb-side does not satify for the extreme high, get a high F added,
etc.
If the sound is quite small then, get a bigger bell added.
If the sound is not warm enough then, get a red brass
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