Fw: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-23 Thread rjackallen
- Original Message - From: "rjackallen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: Fw: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?! Thank goodness for excellent Band Directors. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Karen Marti

Fw: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-22 Thread rjackallen
Thank goodness for excellent Band Directors. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Karen Martin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?! Jack, if you like, you can reply with a quote from my Fall School Open House letter to my

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-22 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
In a message dated 8/22/2004 5:22:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was suprised at part of your response. WHAT GOOD IS A TWO YEAR WARRANTY IF THE HORN DOES NOT PLAY WELL??? Paul, I have no idea. Here is the deal: First Act has solicited NAPBIRT (National Association of P

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-22 Thread CORNO911
In a message dated 8/22/04 9:30:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > For > example, First Act instruments have a warranty - a two year warranty!  > David, I was suprised at part of your response. WHAT GOOD IS A TWO YEAR WARRANTY IF THE HORN DOES NOT PLAY WELL??? Paul Navarro Custom Horn _

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-22 Thread John Dutton
Paul wrote: They are Chinese junk, to be succinct about it. ** They are indeed Chinese junk but not near so elegant or useful as the original Chinese junk. While it floats better and you can cook lunch on it, this useful Chinese junk does not in fact sound any more like a modern h

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-22 Thread danatwiss
Hello list, In addition to the ridiculously low price of these instruments, the sellers use phrases such as "school approved," "director approved," and most recently "approved by the MENC." When I questioned the sellers about these "approvals" and endorsements I receive answers like, "we're not at

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-22 Thread Alan Cole
Dear Friends, Maybe some of the people who buy those horns do so while ignore the advice of the experts, but I think many of the people buying them don't even bother getting any advice. They just plunge ahead on their own. The peer pressure working on kids (and onto the parents through the kids

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-22 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
In a message dated 8/22/2004 2:01:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Some of the major American musical instrument manufacturers are calling > these instruments " ISOs---INSTRUMENT SIMILAR OBJECTS"-- and the description > > fits. > Paul and list, First, The brands

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-22 Thread Peter W. Schroth
"Walter E. Lewis" wrote: > > There are only three really good uses for one of these horns, a) a door > stop, b) a boat anchor and c) to demonstrate what NOT to buy a kid. > One might also consider it as a wall decoration, perhaps in a bar or restaurant. Several restaurant chains now have musica

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-22 Thread Walter E. Lewis
Hi All, An unnamed (to protect the guilty) colleague formerly from this list gave one including the free shipping to our (lurking) colleague on this list, Bob Losin and myself, and told us to find a good home for it...We can't bring ourselves to unleash this piece of junk onto even a poor (fina

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-21 Thread CORNO911
I hope more people-both players and repair techs- will come out as Paul Mansur has when he called these horns "Chinese junk." I,unfortunately, have had the opportunity to work on several of these horns and completely agree with his evaluation. I have not found even one aspect of these horns that

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-21 Thread CORNO911
In a message dated 8/21/04 8:46:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >   After a couple > months of that I check her slide and a paper clip fell out, had been in > there from purchase. > I sure hope that she was able to use the paperclip because it was probably the best part of her purchase. Paul

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-21 Thread Christopher Bonner
: "Andrew R Swinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?! > > > > > A girl I went to high school with played on one of those horns,

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-21 Thread Andrew R Swinney
A girl I went to high school with played on one of those horns, and every time she played 2nd valve you would hear this rattle. After a couple months of that I check her slide and a paper clip fell out, had been in there from purchase. Swinney ___

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-21 Thread Klifemom
In a message dated 8/21/2004 6:53:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Doubles go for > >$245. What *are* these things? Has anyone tried one? I'm don't want > >to buy one, but I am curious about them, particularly in regard to the > >quality. One of my students bought

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-21 Thread Paul Mansur
They are Chinese junk, to be succinct about it. Paul Mansur On Saturday, August 21, 2004, at 06:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The french horn listings on Ebay these days are clogged with frequent ads from three stores that sell extremely inexpensive new French horns. One place sells singles

Re: [Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-21 Thread Mark Louttit
Ben, These horns are of Chinese origin. Unfortunately the state of Chinese horn making has not progressed to the point where they make good quality instruments on a consistent basis. Although the instruments often appear to be cosmetically fine, their playing qualities and construction leave much

[Hornlist] New horns on Ebay for $125?!

2004-08-21 Thread benjamin
The french horn listings on Ebay these days are clogged with frequent ads from three stores that sell extremely inexpensive new French horns. One place sells singles from Victory Band Instruments that cost $125. Another sells Helmke singles for $129. Doubles go for $245. What *are* these th