RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-19 Thread Hans.Pizka
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:36 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training In a message dated 5/19/06 4:03:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I instantly hear the sound

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-19 Thread MARKSUERON
: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training Hans, When you see the note, are you thinking note but note and chord. Ron ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-19 Thread Hans.Pizka
I instantly hear the sound, the complete sound. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:31 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training Hans, When you see the note, are

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-19 Thread Hans.Pizka
MAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:10 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training You're right. If I look at the note on the music or mentally visualize the note on the music if playing from memory, it helps a lot. Howeve

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-19 Thread MARKSUERON
Hans, When you see the note, are you thinking note but note and chord. Ron ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-19 Thread MARKSUERON
You're right. If I look at the note on the music or mentally visualize the note on the music if playing from memory, it helps a lot. However it does not work for the notes that are out of tune on my horn. I have to mentally correct those. However, by mentally singing it in my mind while

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-19 Thread Hans.Pizka
o others. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herbert Foster Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:26 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training If you can match a pitch by singing, no matter how bad the singing, that&

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-19 Thread Herbert Foster
If you can match a pitch by singing, no matter how bad the singing, that's what's meant. It's like some people subvocalize while reading. Most of the quality of singing has little to do with the vocal cords. A major factor is--you guessed it--the breath. I would venture to say that as your playing

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear training

2006-05-18 Thread Robert Dickow
Pitch sense certainly is crucial to horn playing, but the 'feel' (or 'taste' as I call it) for the production of pitches can serve perfectly well by itself for accurate playing. I rely on it, since I don't have 'stage 3' perfect pitch. I only 'hear' the pitch mentally in an almost abstract or intui

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-18 Thread Steve Freides
; Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:53 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training > > At 7:30 PM +0100 5/18/06, C.J.L. Wolf wrote: > >Then how come I can play (to some degree) but not sing (to any > >meaningful degree)? > > > That's a go

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-18 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 7:30 PM +0100 5/18/06, C.J.L. Wolf wrote: Then how come I can play (to some degree) but not sing (to any meaningful degree)? That's a good question someone may care to answer. With some students I used to take an unfamiliar short piece, look at its key signature, time signature, note valu

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-18 Thread C.J.L. Wolf
On Thu, 18 May 2006, Christine Ranson wrote: If one can sing, one can play! My head of department in College has been involved in research that shows that the vocal cords of a Brass player whilst playing do EXACTLY the same thing as a singer whilst singing. Then how come I can play (to some

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-18 Thread Christine Ranson
I will email him now to ask! From: "Jonathan West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Horn List To: "The Horn List" Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:46:26 +0100 > If one can sing, one can play! > > My head of departm

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-18 Thread Jonathan West
> If one can sing, one can play! > > My head of department in College has been involved in research that shows > that the vocal cords of a Brass player whilst playing do EXACTLY the same > thing as a singer whilst singing. That's very interesting. Is there anything about that research available

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-18 Thread Christine Ranson
If one can sing, one can play! My head of department in College has been involved in research that shows that the vocal cords of a Brass player whilst playing do EXACTLY the same thing as a singer whilst singing. Fascinating! Does anyone else sing it mentally and not listen to the horn whi

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-17 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 4:52 PM -0400 5/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else sing it mentally and not listen to the horn while they play. Greetings - I, myself, have never had the misfortune to do so. But once I worked with someone who did that, at least, I hope that that person did the mental part

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-17 Thread Sheldon Kirshner
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:53 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training Does anyone else sing it mentally and not listen to the horn while they play. I have found (this was suggested by a teacher who espouses this method) that if I

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ear Training

2006-05-17 Thread MARKSUERON
Does anyone else sing it mentally and not listen to the horn while they play. I have found (this was suggested by a teacher who espouses this method) that if I stay with the mental singing and not listen to the horn I'm in tune. Ron ___ post: hor

RE: [Hornlist] RE: Ear Training

2006-05-16 Thread Bill Gross
I started out knowing this would happen. Then I figured what the hell people who wanted to help would. The rest, well. . . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:22 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu S