Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-04 Thread mkolnsberg
Thanks Ralph, I'll give the grease a try and let you know how it works. -Original Message- From: Ralph R. Hall To: The Horn List Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 2:20 pm Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Mark,? ? I returned last year from a stint as Director of the Royal Guard of

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-03 Thread Ralph R. Hall
Mark, I returned last year from a stint as Director of the Royal Guard of Oman Military School of Music. My annual budget included a search for slide grease that didn't melt in temperatures of 50 Celsius. This one has no maker's name only the following: Grease Ultra-Heavy for Tuning Slides (

Re: [Hornlist] Slide grease - different perspective

2009-03-03 Thread Dan Beeker
The first two horns I played on were close to new single and double Alexanders. They both had the bad habit of the third valve slide on the F side sliding out at in-opportune times. Using standard slide grease they would slide out quicker and were practically un-useable on a hot day. Anhydrou

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease and valve oil

2009-03-03 Thread Jeremy Cucco
heers- Jeremy whitacreh...@aol.com wrote: Is?it really true that the rotor surfaces do not touch the sides of the valve casing, so it in not necessary to oil inside the valve? message: 8 date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:55:49 -0500 from: "Luke Zyla" subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease an

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease and valve oil

2009-03-03 Thread whitacrehill
Is?it really true that the rotor surfaces do not touch the sides of the valve casing, so it in not necessary to oil inside the valve? message: 8 date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:55:49 -0500 from: "Luke Zyla" subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease and valve oil ? Check out the wikipedi

Re: [Hornlist] Slide grease - differentperspective

2009-03-03 Thread Luke Zyla
March 03, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide grease - differentperspective Why do slides get loose ? Because of too much polishing. Basta. I have used one horn from 1989 to 1999 extensively, means about 300 services in my orchestra/year plus all the other gigs & concerts & solo w

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease and valve oil

2009-03-03 Thread Luke Zyla
From: "David A. Jewell" To: "The Horn List" Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease From: Martin Bender To: The Horn List Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 8:13:37 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease ...It's really rendered sheep fa

RE: [Hornlist] Slide grease - different perspective

2009-03-03 Thread Reicher, Tom
-online.de Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:39 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide grease - different perspective Why do slides get loose ? Because of too much polishing. Basta. I have used one horn from 1989 to 1999 extensively, means about 300 services in my orchestra/year plus all the

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-03 Thread Carlisle Landel
Balm (lanolin plus petroleum jelly plus hydroxyquinoline) on his slides On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:39 AM, David A. Jewell wrote: From: Martin Bender To: The Horn List Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 8:13:37 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease ...It's really rendered sheep fat (which has a biolo

Re: [Hornlist] Slide grease - different perspective

2009-03-03 Thread hans.pi...@t-online.de
are not loose, but what the hell are so many doing with their horns, that the slides get loose What kind of junk horns are they playing ? -Original Message- Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:07:03 +0100 Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Slide grease - different perspective From: "Reicher, Tom"

RE: [Hornlist] Slide grease - different perspective

2009-03-03 Thread Reicher, Tom
Agree about the loose slide theory, based on two horns that I use, one with loose slides and the other with tight slides. The former requires more frequent applications of slide grease than the latter. Presumably, the valve oil is able to seep over the sliding surface and decompose the slide grea

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-03 Thread David A. Jewell
From: Martin Bender To: The Horn List Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 8:13:37 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease ...It's really rendered sheep fat (which has a biologic source) and supports the growth of stuff inside your horn where it is warm and damp-- conditions which bacteria r

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-03 Thread Martin Bender
One other point: avoid using grease containing anhydrous lanolin. It's really rendered sheep fat (which has a biologic source) and supports the growth of stuff inside your horn where it is warm and damp-- conditions which bacteria really like. Sincerely, martin bender On 3-Mar-09, at 7:30

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-03 Thread mkolnsberg
Thanks Hans, will go to oiling the valves less. -Original Message- From: Prof.Hans Pizka To: 'The Horn List' Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 2:01 am Subject: AW: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Your problem, Mark, is it that you oil the valves too often. If the horn is layed every day, the moist & a

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-03 Thread mkolnsberg
Horn List Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 9:40 pm Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Mark, This may be more information than you had in mind but I couldn't resist. In my opinion, it is probably worthwhile to spend 20 minutes or so once a week to oil and grease your horn. Do it while you

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-03 Thread mkolnsberg
To: 'The Horn List' Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 8:03 pm Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease You may be using too much rotary oil. Is that because your valves are sticking? They may need to be lapped. Loren Mayhew,?Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music? c...@mayhews.us www.may

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-02 Thread gretchenzook
Mark, This may be more information than you had in mind but I couldn't resist. In my opinion, it is probably worthwhile to spend 20 minutes or so once a week to oil and grease your horn. Do it while you watch some mindless thing on TV for amusement. I have always done this and my 42 year old 8D

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-02 Thread nlaws2001
consultant - Original Message - From: "Loren Mayhew" To: "The Horn List" Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 8:30:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Hetman #7 slide gel lasts a long time and does not change chemical properties or tarnis

RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-02 Thread Loren Mayhew
-0700 -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+loren=mayhews...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+loren=mayhews...@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Reicher, Tom Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:35 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease I have had the same experience but

RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-02 Thread Loren Mayhew
You may be using too much rotary oil. Is that because your valves are sticking? They may need to be lapped. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music  c...@mayhews.us www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+loren=mayhews...@music

Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-02 Thread mkolnsberg
Thanks Tom.? Good idea about a chemist, I know a few chemical engineers I'm gonna ask. Let you know what I find. -Original Message- From: Reicher, Tom To: The Horn List Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 7:35 pm Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease I have had the same experience but

RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-02 Thread Reicher, Tom
I have had the same experience but have always concluded that anything that lasted longer would have undesirable properties that would gum up the valves. A petroleum chemist needs to advise us all, or perhaps the solution is to have some sort of permanent coatings on slides and receivers so that