Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-23 Thread Hans Pizka
Scott, and this recording was done using the Leloir score of the Haydn (? I have to check myt books when home !). And, how do you know, that Kling added notes to Mozarts say K.495, as the first movement & the main part of the 2nd movement are not preserved as autograph , but just in the earliest e

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-21 Thread Scott Pappal
Hans (and list): Apologies for the delay, as I have been out of town the past several weeks. Professor Pizka, I do not believe I compared my own reduction with the Leloir or Musica Rara editions. My words were "I'd wager that my reduction is better" - at no time did I write "I have seen these redu

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-13 Thread Hans Pizka
Scott, if you have not seen the Leloir or Musica Rara piano reduction, how does it come that you compare your edition with others ? This is something strange. I do not know any other edition of the double concerto in question. And regarding the Mozart concertos: I have had the chance to listen to m

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-13 Thread Hans Pizka
Scott, if you have not seen the Leloir or Musica Rara piano reduction, how does it come that you compare your edition with others ? This is something strange. I do not know any other edition of the double concerto in question. And regarding the Mozart concertos: I have had the chance to listen to m

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-11 Thread Scott Pappal
All: As stated before, I have seen neither the Leloir (full score or piano reduction - in fact, I was unaware of their existence prior to being kindly informed by Professor Pizka) nor the Musica Rara scores to the Haydn double concerto. Certainly, my intention is not to plagarize the work of other

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-10 Thread Peter W. Schroth
The second transcriber ought to be safe from a copyright infringement suit if whatever is new and creative in the first transcriber's version is avoided. The two transcriptions could very well resemble each other in many ways without copyright infringement, because both are based on and resemble H

RE: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-10 Thread McBeth, Amy J
If -- contrary to the facts of Mr. Pappal's case -- the second transcriber has access to the work of the first, he can still make and copyright his own transcription, freely making use of the objective or "factual" information in the first transcription. However, in that case, coincidences in th

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-10 Thread Peter W. Schroth
Hans Pizka wrote: > > Sorry, Amy, if Scott uses the scores available on the > market (edited by Edmond Leloir - former KaWe or the > other score from Musica Rara) instead of any score from > complete Haydn Works (I do not know it yet), he is > breaching the copyright law, as he is using copyright

RE: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-09 Thread Hans Pizka
ver, > he's not breaking copyright, is he? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Hans Pizka > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 7:36 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-09 Thread Sean R. Kirkpatrick
sn't. Check out http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/copyright.html for more detailed information. Sean message: 5 date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 14:00:24 -0700 (PDT) from: Scott Pappal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction All and professor Pizka: I appreci

RE: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-09 Thread McBeth, Amy J
nlist] haydn concerto piano reduction Hello Scott, the piano reduction for that double concerto is not #out of print since long#, very sorry, it is available at any time in Edmond Leloirs reduction from the original score, which is protected under copyright. It is K.100 or K.099 as full score & the

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-08 Thread Peter W. Schroth
The original versions of Haydn's works are long since in the public domain. The particular piano reduction referred to by Professor Pizka may still be protected by copyright. However, if you have prepared your own piano reduction (you called it "a reduction done by myself" and said you had never

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-08 Thread Scott Pappal
Perhaps I was slightly hasty in withdrawing my original offer. It appears that a reduction is available in Edmond Leloir's catalogue, a fact of which I was made aware of by Professor Pizka. Previously, I had posted that, to the best of my knowledge, only one prior reduction had been made and that i

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-08 Thread John Kowalchuk
At 02:00 PM 8/8/04 -0700, Scott Pappal wrote: >since I don't want >to violate any copyright laws, I must withdraw my >offer of the piano reduction to this concerto. If the original score is in the public domain and that is what you used as source material for your piano reduction then you are not

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-08 Thread Scott Pappal
All and professor Pizka: I appreciate the information - and since I don't want to violate any copyright laws, I must withdraw my offer of the piano reduction to this concerto. Thank you for the update! Scott in Altoona --- Hans Pizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Scott, > > the piano redu

Re: [Hornlist] haydn concerto piano reduction

2004-08-07 Thread Hans Pizka
Hello Scott, the piano reduction for that double concerto is not #out of print since long#, very sorry, it is available at any time in Edmond Leloirs reduction from the original score, which is protected under copyright. It is K.100 or K.099 as full score & the parts are available as well. Greeti