RE: [Hornlist] Horn in C - concert pitch or one octave lower?

2007-08-26 Thread hans
Hello Steve, there are extremely few occasions later than Haydn, that horns are written in C (alto), which is like "concert". I put "alto" in brackets, because it seems to me that there is no need to distinct it, if all other C-horn would be named C-basso. The later one - C-basso - is found abunda

RE: [Hornlist] Horn in C - concert pitch or one octave lower?

2007-08-26 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Aug 26, 2007, at 7:31 PM, Steve Freides wrote: > > Does this note sound as written (since horn in C should > effectively > > be the same as reading at concert > > pitch) or one > > octave lower? > > > Sounds d

Re: [Hornlist] Horn in C - concert pitch or one octave lower?

2007-08-26 Thread Dan Phillips
On Aug 26, 2007, at 7:31 PM, Steve Freides wrote: Does this note sound as written (since horn in C should effectively be the same as reading at concert pitch) or one octave lower? Sounds down an octave. Dan ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu un

RE: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-30 Thread Hans
a effort regarding practice ? But this is the problem: inadequate preparation by "etudes". -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graeme Evans Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 8:06 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlis

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-30 Thread Graeme Evans
> But you again evaded the question: why spending too much energy on a > task which could be solved the simple way, by using the F-side, at least > partly The crux of your argument seems to be that fingering in rapid passages can be made simpler by using the F side. This is undeniably true, b

RE: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Steven Ovitsky
John Putnam wrote: >The piece is by Elliott Carter and entitled by "a symphony of three orchestras" >it is a new age piece written in 1967 It was actually written in 1976. This is the first time I've ever heard any work by Carter described as "new age". Just don't tell him! LOL Cheers, Ste

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread John Putnam
The piece is by Elliott Carter and entitled by "a symphony of three orchestras" it is a new age piece written in 1967 by some how I think it my not even matter, at rehersal today the horn section didn't know what to do so i told my section to just play in f and see if it works and it seems to hm

RE: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Hans Pizka
r 29, 2003 11:09 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] horn in C# Rubbish, Hans! You have been "blah"ing (to quote!) about this fingering business for years! It IS NOT "unfair use of the list" to comment on it! I have no argument with the rest of the posting, so I did no

RE: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Hans Pizka
all international used music education. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michiel van der Linden Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:09 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] horn in C# John Putnam wrote: >

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Graeme Evans
-- Original Message - From: "Hans Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] horn in C# > Blah-blah-blah, dear Graeme, but tell me, why so many horn play

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Margaret Dikel
At 09:56 AM 12/29/2003, you wrote: first I am sorry for starting WW3. second this is what I did. I ask the conductor him being the all knowing god and me just a smple college horn player. he said; " either it is itilian meanig "si" as in solfegio (i.e rasied 5 scale Degree), or it is spainish

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Valkhorn
Now I agree with Hans as well. Fingering problems don't become much of an issue because our partials are so close together, and many parts are written across the natural harmonic series (Mozart, Beethoven). Euphonium-ists only have big fat wide partials, use their right hand, and have quick pis

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Valkhorn
I QUITE agree. I just got a GripMaster today, so I'm building up my muscles in the odd time my left hand is free. He is right. Sure we do play on the left hand and most horn players are right handed. However all one has to do is build up the proper muscles and do some good finger exercises. -W

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Clayton
Clayton Whetmore, here: Hans Pizka wrote: May-be it was your spelling teacher (sorry, but I had to point to that), who might give you a very bad score for all the spelling errors you committed including the "smple meanig" or "solfegio" (correct: solfeggio). If you were that careless playing the h

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Michiel van der Linden
John Putnam wrote: first I am sorry for starting WW3. second this is what I did. I ask the conductor him being the all knowing god and me just a smple college horn player. he said; " either it is itilian meanig "si" as in solfegio (i.e rasied 5 scale Degree), or it is spainish and Si is C, So if

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Chris Tedesco
One of the reasons Si was eventually changed to Ti is because when inflected solfeg is used to show chromaticism, there would be two Si's. I think it's safe to say one owuld never find a piece in, say, an inflected key. That is, never a piece in "Di" for C# or something like that. Secondly, I th

RE: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Hans Pizka
n, you should name composer & piece to receive the perfect answer you could present to your "all knowing god". = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Putnam Sent: Monday, Decem

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Walter Lewis
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Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
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Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Walter Lewis
At 06:56 AM 12/29/03 -0800, you wrote: first I am sorry for starting WW3. second this is what I did. Shoot, John, WW3 is nothing new on this list...hehehe...Keep on asking questions, Some of us enjoy reading the responses. It sure beats reading the viagra spam email that I have to delete...

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Tell us the title of the piece and who wrote it and maybe some of us will have played it before and can help. In everything that I have played, "si" has meant "B" . As Hans said, "B sharp" doesn't seem to make sense. I have never come across anything where "si" has meant either "C" or "G". A

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread John Putnam
first I am sorry for starting WW3. second this is what I did. I ask the conductor him being the all knowing god and me just a smple college horn player. he said; " either it is itilian meanig "si" as in solfegio (i.e rasied 5 scale Degree), or it is spainish and Si is C, So if it is C# alto read

RE: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Hans Pizka
r or statement, so not to provide anything another member could response in a negative way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graeme Evans Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 11:01 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] horn in

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Graeme Evans
Hans wrote: > But if the players involved just know their Bb-fingerings, they will run > into BIG SHIT, but that´s their own problem because of their laziness & > inadequate training. If Bb-(near exclusive) players have to read up for > one sharp (#) for every note, they are in trouble. Players wit

RE: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-29 Thread Hans Pizka
sive) players have to read up for one sharp (#) for every note, they are in trouble. Players with a preference for the F-fingerings do not have this problem. Players, who think about these natural horn parts as parts of open notes, do not have a problem either. -----Original Message- From: [EM

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-28 Thread John Putnam
I think i need to resate the question. I quote the part "en Si # alto" i thought this meant "in C# alto" or does it mean "in G# alto" I am not really sure John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You could just read it in Db. Think in D and just go down a half step from > there. > > -William > > In a

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-28 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 6:30 PM -0800 12/28/03, Chris Tedesco wrote: >I can think of at least one kopprasch that has that for a >transposition. It's pretty good for learning because if you know the exercise >in F, your ear can tell you when you're wrong. Greetings - But, of course, the goal is to know the piece fro

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-28 Thread Chris Tedesco
I should probably read the other posts first, but it might be a little easier as horn in D-flat. I can think of at least one kopprasch that has that for a transposition. It's pretty good for learning because if you know the exercise in F, your ear can tell you when you're wrong. Chris --- John

Re: [Hornlist] horn in C#

2003-12-28 Thread Valkhorn
You could just read it in Db. Think in D and just go down a half step from there. -William In a message dated 12/28/2003 4:15:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hey, > > Does any one have some seggestions on how to play a part in C#? > > John

Re: [Hornlist] Horn in C anyone?

2003-06-18 Thread Leigh Alexander
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 05:09 PM, Leonard & Peggy Brown wrote: No has brought up this C horn on Ebay... do you enjoy transposing everything to Eb? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2539246864&category=16215 Leonard, city of frijoles