Nicholas and Andre --
Chris is asking about the date of the *imagery* used for tracing, not the
date of the traced elements.
All --
He makes an excellent point. If imagery is several years old, then
features being traced may well have changed, with the likelihood being
higher for more ephemeral
Hi there!
First of all, great job you're doing with your project!
I could not find the information about what the HOT-Map is capable and time is
short for us.I'm here in Pokhara and close to a very busy NGO which got lots of
information about state of help in villages, roads open or not, contact
Hey Felix,
The simplest failsafe tool that comes to mind that use the map data we have
put together is fieldpapers: http://fieldpapers.org
You can basically generate A4 sized pdfs of maps for an area of interest.
Field workers can use this to navigate on the ground, and also collect
additional inf
Hi Felix,
I am there sure there are others on this list much more qualified than
me to help you record, display and share this data.
Could you perhaps let us know exactly what kind of data it is and in
what format it is?
My guess is that some of the data would fit in directly with our
systems an
Hi,
Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland:
we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters
landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This
is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that
can play with the various Image laye
Hi Felix, for your purposes, you should also look at http://quakemap.org
for your purposes. The data that you are talking about seems to be of the
nature that is more appropriate for this level of "overlay" data rather
than for the OSM basemap itself.
If you can let us know a local phone number to
Hello,
Thanks for your answers. Based on the answers I got, I think we should
distinguish between 3 different related issues:
- *ISSUE 1:* Get the date if the imagery provides the information
(applies e.g. for Bing, not for Mapbox) --> Explain how to do this in
iD, Potlatch, JOSM or without ed
Solved!
Thanks everybody for the quick responses! Your links are exactely what we were
searching for and will be extremly helpful for our work! We (karmaflights.org &
Paddle Nepal) will soon get in touch with you guys at Kathmandu Living Labs.
Fantastic work you're doing, keep in rolling!Best reg
Hi Felix,
Kathmandu Living Labs are doing a great job to support the various
organizations directly from Kathmandu. They prepare various products. See
http://kathmandulivinglabs.github.io/quake-maps/
You will find a more general description on our wiki of this event
http://wiki.openstreetmap.o
Michael,
badly I added an image to the Task but it does not appear. I have asked Pierre
Giraud our TM expert if he can fix this.
Link to the image
:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/f/f7/Josm_nepal_aeroway_helipad.png
Pierre
De : Michael
À : hot@openstreetmap.org
Envoyé le : S
Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from
http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ? If so, is there an
alternate location?
Thanks,
Dion
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No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to
http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pbf to
create the OSMAnd file from it
http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf
Feel free to use these locations. They will be an hour behind the dataset
at G
Dear colleagues
I’m trying to locate the organizers (Maria Brovelli, Marco Minghini and
Giovanna Venuti) of the Como Geo Lab event to harness experience and training
material in Italian to replicate an event here in Trento, Italy
I have location and IT infrastructure ready at a leading GI
Hi Michael,
In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find
photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter
timeline, like :
https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/status/594434101391810560
https://twitter.com/unheard_in/status/594435742706741248
https://twit
Useful photos, thanks!
On 2 May 2015 at 16:25, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find
> photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter
> timeline, like :
>
> https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/statu
This photo gives a good idea of what these villages may look like now, and
a possible landing area in the upper right of the photo.
http://cdn.cctv-america.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/000_TS-Del6410804.jpg
On 2 May 2015 at 16:30, Dan Marsh wrote:
> Useful photos, thanks!
>
> On 2 May 2015 at
Pierre,
Am 02.05.2015 um 15:58 schrieb Pierre Béland:
badly I added an image to the Task but it does not appear. I have asked Pierre
Giraud our TM expert if he can fix this.
Link to the image
:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/f/f7/Josm_nepal_aeroway_helipad.png
Oh thanks a lot. Anothe
http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/blog/nepal-earthquake-report-from-kll-situation-room-day-7-may-2/
Today we have specially focused on quakemap.org deployment
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Hi
While mapping task #1014 I found this admin boundary:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/341454201
Which appears to be a bulk upload with many tags that don't match the usual
OSM schemes.
Acording to the changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30616871
someone (4rch) has already
Hello Sérgio,
I just realized that no one had answered your question yet. So I will give
it a try.
Am 02.05.2015 00:58 schrieb "S Volk" :
> I'm tracing a "landuse=brownfield" poligon for recently disappeared homes
(comparing DigitalGlobe 2015-04-29 with both Bing and MapGive / HIU april
2015 ima
I think a better aproach to this could be update previous polygon tags,
from "landuse=residential" to "landuse=brownfield" and erase duplicated
polygon.
2015-05-01 17:55 GMT-05:00 S Volk :
> Hi, please, one question:
> I'm tracing a "landuse=brownfield" poligon for recently disappeared homes
> (c
Stephane,
I will report to Nepal OSM community at the Katmndu Living Labs.
Boundary infos are very important for these response. If you see any problems,
please report to us with the object, changeset, but let us handle it, validate
before taking any action.
Regard.
Pierre
De : Sté
Reverts are possible
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Change_rollback#JOSM
Before do that please read this
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes
I've shared this issue with impo...@openstreetmap.org
Best!
2015-05-02 11:41 GMT-05:00 Stéphane Henriod :
> Hi
>
> While mapping task #1014
Very versatile some of this helicopters! Based on the information gived
from this pictures, maybe "aeroway=helipad" poligons radio could be less
than 30 mts (task#1026); so increase probability for more aerial rescue
areas?
2015-05-02 10:25 GMT-05:00 Jean-Guilhem Cailton :
> Hi Michael,
>
> In c
We are now on for a whole day of training and mapping at San Francisco
state University.
http://commons.sfsu.edu/event/humanitarian-mapping-activities-nepal
We have three computer labs booked for this (capacity 40, 30, 70). I have 1
near-confirmed mapper and 1 in the process of confirming mapper
Thanks Michael and hyances , I see now OSM actually renders the brown colour of
brownfield over residential grey, not under. Sérgio
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I think that we should keep the duplicates for now.
We are in the emergency and did not had time to think about the various
problems when we created this job.
I prefer that we keep duplicate, otherwise we would loose info about the
residential area.
It should be easy to mange once the jo
We did not have clear instructions on this. I then prefered to be conservative.
Looking at the official helipads (aeroway=helipad) gives us some clue about
what looks to be reasonnable.
Pierre
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Cc : HOT
Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 20
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Hi,
I think it might do some massive damage when you change
landuse=residential to brownfield. First, it is crucial to know
where a residential are WAS. Also a brownfield in most cases doesn't
equals to a
Hmmm, weird. Still get time outs from the original, I was able to get it
off mapcache though, so thanks!
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Milo van der Linden
wrote:
> No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to
> http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pb
Thanks for these updates. Will add this link in the wiki page to assure even
more availability of data.
- Alternate PFB file if any problem downloading from Geofabrik (one hour late
vs Geofabrik).
Pierre
De : Dion Houston
À : Milo van der Linden
Cc : hot
Envoyé le : Samedi 2 ma
This seemed like a useful helicopter LZ resource.
http://www.careflite.org/wFirstResponders/landingzone.aspx
So, with the best of intentions I'm sure I've been breaking some rules...
I've been using Google Earth with vertical exaggeration cranked up as my 1st
tool... looking for relatively level s
Hello Everyone,
I know there's a lot of focus on Nepal right now. If there are any
experienced editors who want to help out on another area, we could use some
help getting parts of Dhaka, Bangladesh traced. The HIU just released some
NextView imagery.
The tracing is difficult due to the quality o
Dion,
re-reading your email, you say an hour behind Geofabrik. I understand that I
can revise the wiki to indicate30 minutes update (1h delay from Geofabrik),
this for both pbf and obf.
Would this be correct?
Pierre
De : Pierre Béland
À : Dion Houston ; Milo van der Linden
Cc :
John we have to be careful not to use infos from imagery providers we dont have
the license. Will let others comment more on this if they see any problem.
For Windows, I use the following link to call JOSM with 1 gb memory.
[java path]\javaw.exe -Xmx1024m -jar "[josm path]\josm-latest.jar"
Pier
Thanks Dan
A good, clear and instructive picture. We should add it in the instructions for
the post-disaster jobs. Such image could also be included in a github tracing
guide for Nepal post-disaster.
regard
Pierre
De : Dan Marsh
À : Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Cc : "hot@openstreetmap.org"
Ever heard of this?
A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious:
http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html
Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems.
Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8.
There are way
I encountered a tile with many small (2 or 3 houses) areas in the hills of
Nepal marked as landuse=Residential. It is my understanding that this tag
should be used only for true "Settlements" of 20 or more houses?
I read somewhere that counting the number of "Residential" areas can be
used as a ro
Hi Tom
I don't know if this is correct but this is what I've been doing too. I
assumed that some of those areas had been mapped during the first pass and
were meant to roughly indicate the residential areas. So, as soon as we map
the more detailed buildings, the "landuse:residential" are no longer
I have been routinely mapping groups of say half a dozen huts in West
Africa as landuse=residential and its the first time I've seen a minimum
number of twenty buildings.
Cheerio John
On 2 May 2015 at 16:38, Tom McDonald wrote:
> I encountered a tile with many small (2 or 3 houses) areas in the
Can't get images closer than 500 ft using BING (totally pixelated) or MapBox,
the only two options that show images.
Someone with experience, please help so I can continue.
(Using iD Editor on an old Mac that can't load JOSM.)
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Am 02.05.2015 23:04 schrieb "john whelan" :
> I have been routinely mapping groups of say half a dozen huts in West
Africa as landuse=residential and its the first time I've seen a minimum
number of twenty buildings.
Same for me. I probably added some of these just today. So I would
recommend not
Try a different tile, some imagery is better than others.
Cheerio John
On 2 May 2015 at 17:19, Suzan Reed wrote:
> Can't get images closer than 500 ft using BING (totally pixelated) or
> MapBox, the only two options that show images.
>
> Someone with experience, please help so I can continue.
>
Hi Claire,
Have you had a look at "what3words": http://what3words.com? It's three words
and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes.
In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through pilots) for
locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a
what3words is nice but is commercial. I was hoping for some sort of open
data prem code postcode idea. UK prem code is the house number so a prem
code followed by the postcode is a unique address. Example 10pr82az is 10
weld road southport pr8 2az.
Cheerio John
On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Ili
I download from geofabrik every hour (hourly). That way, I am at most an
hour behind.
Sorry for the confusion.
Kind regards,
Milo
On May 2, 2015 9:24 PM, "Pierre Béland" wrote:
> Dion,
>
> re-reading your email, you say an hour behind Geofabrik. I understand that
> I can revise the wiki to ind
Suzan,
These are assembly of mutlitude of images. The satellites pass day after day,
taking images of new bands. The quality vary from one band to the other. Also,
there where no high-res imagery a few years ago. The imagery company like
DigitalGlobe have a program to provide new high-res imag
Someone with advanced mapping experience, please review.
There isn't a stream at the locations listed below. Seem to be lots of mistakes
on this task. Might be new information, or?
#1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass
Task #1955
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=i
Hi John, All,
what3words is free at point of use and is human readable - the word component
also is quite good at error checking.
Postcodes and generic codes work if the people you want to use them have a
cognition of addressing systems like postcodes or mailstops. My experience in
rural Tanz
Thanks Milo for your contribution. I will revise the wiki since this is more
then daily update. Will simply say hourly update.
One way to show how these regular updates are important, the Nepal database has
more then double since April 25. Amazing effort from the Global OSM community.
The prese
Suzan,
I believe it is a watercourse, look at the location at level 16 with Mapbox
imagery, it does appear to go to the stream to the east.
Another issue I see is the extra large Residential area polygons, they
should be just around the houses and not include so much area without
houses.
Regards,
Hi Susan,
zooming out you can see that this is at the bottom of a quite large valley, so
it is very likely that there is a stream, even if it isn't clearly visible.
Maybe the person who drew it was using different imagery. I think it's not in
the right place in the middle section (near the mappe
Hi again, I just noticed Emmor beat me to the answer ...
I wanted to ad that it can be useful to look at the history of changes in a
case like this. Sometime I do this to make sure if the other person possibly
had more recent information (or local knowledge, as there was a lot of mapping
activi
I thought it might be useful to share this. I do not yet know how it will
fully affect JOSM.
I received this notification
"We have detected you are using Google Chrome and might be unable to use
the Java plugin from this browser. Starting with Version 42 (released April
2015) Chrome has disabled
Dont forget that we work to locate people at risk after 8 days without any
relief. People have lost everything under the houses ruins including food. It
is important to report all the residential areas to assure to provide them
relief.
We should remove the instructions 20 or so. Did not notice
In Nepal villages can be spread out over very large areas. In Nepal a village
is often not a tight group of buildings. An area as large as a half a mile wide
will all relate as a village. Small clusters of buildings can be one family, or
a monastery, but people 500, even 1000 meters away are nei
Thanks, Pierre!
In this case the buildings are all mapped individually, the question was just where to draw the line around them. I guess it's not that important, as long as all the buildings are on the map.
so I'll better go back and do that ...
Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 01:19 Uhr
Most topographic maps will be using MGRS grids for referencing a location,
it can be 1m precise to 100m depending on how much digits you grid
contains. Garmin GPS's have MGRS built in by default, it's a good idea to
use both LatLng & MGRS when referencing a location.
Example of MGRS
- 45R UL 12345
After having investigated the Java plugin situation with Google Chrome I
have found there is a way to enable the NPAPI that has been disabled.
1. Open your Chrome web browser.
2. In the URL panel at the top type in chrome://flags/#enable-npapi
3. Click the "Enable" link for Enable NPAPI.
4.
JOSM is stand alone and doesn't use a browser. However HOT task web page
uses a JOSM plugin for remote control which might be affected.
Cheerio John
On 2 May 2015 at 19:08, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:
> I thought it might be useful to share this. I do not yet know how it will
> fully affect JOSM.
>
>
Sorry if it's a stupid question but, when are the java plugins
required (in the context of HOT)?
I don't think using the tasking manager requires to have Chrome java
plugins enabled.
So, I'm just curious.
Pierre
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:
> After having investigated the
Hi
Sorry to interrupt your fantastic work capturing Nepal with two
questions. They are of long term nature and interest:
1. What tags are recommended to use in HOT actions (is there a
wiki.osm.org page)?
2. Which interactive maps (i.e. map tile servers) are you using
(besides Garmin .img)?
Regard
On investigation JOSM appears to be remote controlled by HOT project tasks
in Chrome whether or not NPAPI is enabled or not.
Cheerio John
On 2 May 2015 at 20:22, Pierre GIRAUD wrote:
> Sorry if it's a stupid question but, when are the java plugins
> required (in the context of HOT)?
> I don't t
The Atlantic has a very nice writeup on HOT and Nepal.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/05/the-mapmakers-helping-nepal/392228/
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