Re: [HOT] How to become a validator (a suggestion)

Steve, Thanks for the feed back. Great to know that a course has been thought of earlier. Via the Task manager seems a good way to get quick and simple feedback , as you mentioned. Cheers, Graham On 12/4/2016 2:49, Steve Bower wrote: Graham, Excellent questions on an important topic - I

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

>2. Validation - either invalidate or fix. ​>​ Step 1 is the preferable route but if people are working on their own or the turnout makes one on one assistance impossible, then it should be fixed in the validation step. ​I think less well under half of the mapped tiles in HOT have been validated

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:16 PM, john whelan wrote: > So your suggestion on how to deal with the existing poorly mapped > buildings would be? 1. Determine the cause(s) of the poorly mapped buildings. Do we need more helpers in MM mapathons? The last one I did, we had a

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

>We care that they reflect the structure on the ground. I've mapped many buildings that are not square. But if we are sending people into the field to deliver aid looking for a triangle like building when the actual building is a rectangle, we've wasted their time. So your suggestion on how to

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

​For 95% of the buildings JOSM building_tool plugin does a very nice job very quickly. Three clicks and you're done. The training material for HOT and learnOSM has improved enormously since Nepal. I’d probably split the world into three. Mappers who started in OSM or who have built up

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Dale Kunce wrote: > I agree with Mike. This is part training, which I think we all strive to > do a good job on. I know all the Missing Maps one stress the need to square > buildings. It's frustrating to watch new mappers try and square

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

I agree with Mike. This is part training, which I think we all strive to do a good job on. I know all the Missing Maps one stress the need to square buildings. It's frustrating to watch new mappers try and square stuff to not have it work. Simply saying they weren't trained enough is not a good

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > On 4/14/2016 1:16 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > > Those are both things that I already tell new mappers. But they type 's' > and think they have made a square building. We can talk about how that > they should notice that

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

On 4/14/2016 1:16 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: Those are both things that I already tell new mappers. But they type 's' and think they have made a square building. We can talk about how that they should notice that nothing changed, but no one has ever asked me "why doesn't the 's' key work?"

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > The threshold for squaring angles in iD is currently set to within +/-12 > degrees of right or straight. This number was just chosen because it > “feels” right, and still allows for buildings to have 15 degree angles

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

The threshold for squaring angles in iD is currently set to within +/-12 degrees of right or straight. This number was just chosen because it “feels” right, and still allows for buildings to have 15 degree angles and circular sections. https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1902

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

In JOSM you can search "building nodes:-7" or less which screens out the huts. I don't especially like doing it in a mass way but when you're met with 200 unsquared buildings you need to tackle it in some way. You can further refine it by mapper name before hitting the q button. Either

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > Thanks Dale, I’m hoping to get this orthogonal drawing tool merged > sometime next month. > > Being able to draw square buildings quickly in iD is a cool feature, but > not as high priority as other things that we have

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

+1 Mike. The need to draw square buildings is really a check to have new mappers draw more *accurate* buildings. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:11 AM, wrote: > >> >> Are non squared building

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:11 AM, wrote: > > Are non squared building really a big deal, apart from visually? Can we > not live at least initially with building as traced? > If the angles are 90+/- some little bit I don't think it would matter. The problem is that once you

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

Thanks Dale, I’m hoping to get this orthogonal drawing tool merged sometime next month. Being able to draw square buildings quickly in iD is a cool feature, but not as high priority as other things that we have been working on. Definitely take a look through the iD changelog at what we’ve

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

Hi Sev, apologies - I posted that last message before I saw yours - it got delayed for some reason... I think I should expand a little on what I meant. I use JOSM to select buildings for squaring at the end of validating a square. If there are circular huts or complicated (but well-mapped)

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

Just to add to this conversation a lot of effort has already gone into a building tool for iD. https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/2699 It looks like it hasn't been worked on for a while and needs someone to pick it back up. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Pete Masters

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

Are non squared building really a big deal, apart from visually? Can we not live at least initially with building as traced? Cheers Chris On 14/04/16 at 07:42am, john whelan wrote: > I think we are agreed that squaring individual buildings is a hassle for > the validators. > > Do I hear that

Re: [HOT] 7M Earthquake in Myanmar

Thanks for these links, JG... LastQuake is very interesting... Pete On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote: > Hi Pratik, > > Here is a map of testimonies on how this earthquake was felt: > https://twitter.com/LastQuake/status/720259858696523778 >

Re: [HOT] 7M Earthquake in Myanmar

Hi Pratik, Here is a map of testimonies on how this earthquake was felt: https://twitter.com/LastQuake/status/720259858696523778 http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=500458#testimonies (You can follow https://twitter.com/LastQuake for updates). Here is USGS page about it:

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

Hi John, My feeling would be that it needs to be invalidated. If I am managing a project and I see invalidated squares, I tend to check out what the problem is and sometimes get in touch with the mapper through their osm profile to chat about what they are doing. I agree that invalidating

Re: [HOT] How to become a validator (a suggestion)

Hi John, I guess that there is a clear point that you mentioned:"a validator's role is more to ensure that the major requirements of the project are met and guidelines followed." The issue of the huts size is a tricky one, and as you say, it depends on how quickly the maps are needed by the

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

Hi, This would be IMHO an horrible practice, for the complex buildings skilled mappers took the time to map + basically all the round huts. As a common OSM rule is not to tag for the rendering, a new one should be not to distord the data because of the shortcomings of an editing tool. ID should

[HOT] Article on HOT in OneWorld (Dutch only at the moment)

Hi all, Don't think a link to this article has been posted yet - https://www.oneworld.nl/werelddoeners/digitale-reddingswerkers. It's a very nice introduction and explanation to HOT's work, featuring quite a bit of input from Nama Budhathoki, Blake, people from the Red Cross, MSF, Canadian

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

Thank you Pete. Any other input on squaring buildings in validation? Note I'm not asking how to square a building just what to do when a validator is faced with 500 unsquared buildings. Thanks Cheerio John On 14 April 2016 at 07:58, Pete Masters wrote: > From my

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

From my side, I would support that proposal, John… Pete Pete Masters Missing Maps Project Coordinator MSF UK phone: +44 7921 781 518 skype: pedrito1414 twitter: @pedrito1414 @theMissingMaps

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

I think we are agreed that squaring individual buildings is a hassle for the validators. Do I hear that selecting all buildings with less than 7 nodes and squaring/resquaring them all at once is acceptable although not ideal? Thanks John On 14 April 2016 at 04:15, Jo wrote:

Re: [HOT] Missing Maps User Stats

Joost, It's *not case sensitive*. It looks like the backend workers basically stopped working yesterday. Working on getting everything back up and running in the next couple of hours and we should still be able to track all of the edits yesterday. Good luck on Saturday and let me know if you have

Re: [HOT] Mapping party in Barcelona

Hi all, just to follow up on this, the eventbrite sign up is ready to go for the MSF / Missing Maps mapathon: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/msf-missing-maps-mapathon-tickets-24622272881 Please feel free to share with anyone you think might be interested.. Cheers, Pete On Wed, Apr 13, 2016

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

It would be far better to add a tool comparable to buildings-tools plugin to iD. We should have proposed that for GSoC2016... well, maybe next year. Jo 2016-04-14 9:47 GMT+02:00 Suzan Reed : > JOSM is the tool to use, I agree. However I did become somewhat of an iD > power

Re: [HOT] Missing Maps User Stats

Is this thing case sensitive? There are no statistics about task 1775, and I see it suggesting #MissingMaps as opposed to #missingmaps as a changeset comment. If that's the case, we should really keep an eye on these comments! Example:

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

JOSM is the tool to use, I agree. However I did become somewhat of an iD power user and so I just tried to square a number of polygons at once rather than one at a time. I tried many variations including selecting all of them and then trying to apply the “s” tool and grouping them. Nothing

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

Performing a search for all buildings with 4 nodes, this might be an acceptable solution. There might be other problems with those buildings, but it would be relatively easy to perform the search once more and then let all of the buildings pass the revue using the todo plugin. I might make a

Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

I might be missing something but what's wrong with selecting all buildings in JOSM via Search (check if there are huts selected or 45-degree buildings of course) and then do a mass orthogonalization? That would be part of a validation workflow and could even be automated. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at