Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-20 Thread Yuval Levy
On February 19, 2011 02:30:50 pm dmg wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Yuval Levy wrote: > > hg up -C BRANCH_NAME > > Do not do -C Depends on the intended outcome. With -C you make sure that you are on a clean and fresh checkout of the branch. Paramount for preparing a tarball for

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-19 Thread Gnome Nomad
Jim Watters wrote: On 2011-02-04 10:13 PM, Jim Watters wrote: On 2011-02-04 5:53 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: On Fri 04-Feb-2011 at 16:36 +0100, David Haberthür wrote: Why would PSB (a quick google detour hinted it's PhotoShop) be desired? Is a layered TIFF not something you can import into PhotoS

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-19 Thread dmg
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Yuval Levy wrote: > >   hg up -C BRANCH_NAME > Do not do -C, use -c. If you use -C it will blindly remove your local changes. -c will warn you if you have uncommitted ones. -- --dmg --- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org -- You received this message b

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-19 Thread Jim Watters
On 2011-02-04 10:13 PM, Jim Watters wrote: On 2011-02-04 5:53 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: On Fri 04-Feb-2011 at 16:36 +0100, David Haberthür wrote: Why would PSB (a quick google detour hinted it's PhotoShop) be desired? Is a layered TIFF not something you can import into PhotoShop? I believe Photo

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-11 Thread Yuval Levy
On February 10, 2011 02:32:56 pm Jim Watters wrote: > ... ok I found menu item "Update..." that allows to change between branches > and shows current branch. Every time I switch a branch to I need to do a > Synchronize|Pull? no, just an update. I am sorry I am guiding you blindly through this, I

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-10 Thread Jim Watters
On 2011-02-09 9:02 AM, Yuval Levy wrote: On February 9, 2011 06:47:18 am Jim Watters wrote: Now that panotools is switch to Mercurial. Can someone give a quick overview of Mercurial using TortoiseHg GUI? there is some applicable information at [0] Thank you. The next main differences is that

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-09 Thread Yuval Levy
On February 8, 2011 09:12:10 pm Roger Howard wrote: > I've lurked on the list for several years and I've seen > it made abundantly clear that Hugin will be what it is, not what others > want it to be. actually: Hugin is to you what you make it for yourself. Nobody will ever prevent you from goi

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-09 Thread Yuval Levy
On February 9, 2011 06:47:18 am Jim Watters wrote: > Now that panotools is switch to Mercurial. > Can someone give a quick overview of Mercurial using TortoiseHg GUI? there is some applicable information at [0] the first main difference, coming from subversion, is that your commits and checkouts

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-09 Thread Yuval Levy
On February 9, 2011 05:34:25 am Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > I think I should chime in with some findings about GEGL and why I > think it's not a good idea to use it. can you record these findings somewhere where they don't get lost (wiki, blueprint, etc.)? thanks for sharing Yuv signature.asc De

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-09 Thread Jim Watters
On 2011-02-04 10:13 PM, Jim Watters wrote: On Fri 04-Feb-2011 at 16:36 +0100, David Haberthür wrote: Do you have any idea if there are (free/libre) libraries that can write according to Adobes Specifications? http://www.adobe.com/devnet-apps/photoshop/fileformatashtml/ Looking at the document

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-09 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
> On a related topic (large images):  any interest to continue the VIPS project > idea from a few years ago?  maybe using GEGL?  that would complement the new > file format nicely. > > Yuv > I think I should chime in with some findings about GEGL and why I think it's not a good idea to use it. We

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread D M German
>> Whether by reverse engineering (is that what you mean with cleanroom?) or >> by >> following the specs to the letter, one important ingredient is lacking: >> motivation. Roger> I'm not even sure it would require reverse engineering, as that work has already been done in ImageMagick,

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Roger Howard
On Feb 8, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Yuval Levy wrote: > On February 8, 2011 05:37:06 pm Roger Howard wrote: >> I was under the impression - maybe just guessing - that PSB support was >> added without the official Adobe specification. I know ImageMagick added >> it without - there's no reason IM, Hugin, o

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Rogier Wolff
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 05:58:06PM -0500, Yuval Levy wrote: > On February 8, 2011 05:37:06 pm Roger Howard wrote: > > I was under the impression - maybe just guessing - that PSB support was > > added without the official Adobe specification. I know ImageMagick added > > it without - there's no rea

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Yuval Levy
On February 8, 2011 05:37:06 pm Roger Howard wrote: > I was under the impression - maybe just guessing - that PSB support was > added without the official Adobe specification. I know ImageMagick added > it without - there's no reason IM, Hugin, or GIMP can't add support > through a cleanroom implem

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Bruno Postle
On Tue 08-Feb-2011 at 14:01 -0800, Roger Howard wrote: I believe you can build both IM and GIMP with bigtiff support by linking against the libtiff 4.x So it's possible to: Generate huge PSB (from Hugin or whatever) Convert PSB to BigTIFF using IM (IM has had PSB support since March 2010)

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Roger Howard
On Feb 8, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: > On Tue 08-Feb-2011 at 13:51 -0800, Roger Howard wrote: >> On Feb 8, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: >> > PSB isn't a 'standard', until a few months ago adobe were > actively >> > trying to prevent tools like GIMP from supporting PSB. >> >>

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Ok, thanks Roger for your ideas. The fact is that today, there is no longer this nastiness around implementing PSB support - right? Bruno, I didn't mean to say that PSB is a standard, I meant to say that Photoshop itself is a standard (like it or not) And hey, at least they have a large file f

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Bruno Postle
On Tue 08-Feb-2011 at 13:51 -0800, Roger Howard wrote: On Feb 8, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: > PSB isn't a 'standard', until a few months ago adobe were > actively trying to prevent tools like GIMP from supporting PSB. Has Adobe ever gone after PTGUI? I've never heard that Adobe was

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Roger Howard
On Feb 8, 2011, at 5:27 AM, David Haberthür wrote: > Hey Bruno > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 23:09, Bruno Postle wrote: >> On Mon 07-Feb-2011 at 12:21 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote: >>> >>> PSB because that is the only sane way to make large gigapixels. I have >>> made numerous images larger than 4

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Roger Howard
On Feb 8, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: > On Tue 08-Feb-2011 at 10:46 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote: >> i'm not aware of any program that can generate a tiff larger than 4gb which >> can then be opened by any other program. > > I understand that if you use a libtiff with 'bigtiff' support

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Bruno Postle
On Tue 08-Feb-2011 at 10:46 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote: i'm not aware of any program that can generate a tiff larger than 4gb which can then be opened by any other program. I understand that if you use a libtiff with 'bigtiff' support this just works. not to be snarky, but what is wrong wi

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Martin
i'm not aware of any program that can generate a tiff larger than 4gb which can then be opened by any other program. not to be snarky, but what is wrong with supporting photoshop users? it is a standard. and gimp should have PSB support. honestly, try making large gigapixels. if you're stuck wi

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread David Haberthür
Hey Bruno On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 23:09, Bruno Postle wrote: > On Mon 07-Feb-2011 at 12:21 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote: >> >> PSB because that is the only sane way to make large gigapixels. I have >> made numerous images larger than 4GB and the only real way to edit them is >> if they are PSB form

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread David Haberthür
> On a related topic (large images):  any interest to continue the VIPS project > idea from a few years ago?  maybe using GEGL?  that would complement the new > file format nicely. I've added some bits and pieces of the old GSOC-stuff to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/hugin/+spec/processing-of-v

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Sorry but there is always some kind of problem further down the line. Maybe GIMP will support PSB files eventually. Until then, can we nuzzle satan a bit and just have PSB output which currently requires photoshop to open/edit ? :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-07 Thread Yuval Levy
On February 7, 2011 05:09:51 pm Bruno Postle wrote: > On Mon 07-Feb-2011 at 12:21 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote: > > PSB because that is the only sane way to make large gigapixels. I > > have made numerous images larger than 4GB and the only real way to > > edit them is if they are PSB format. > > T

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-07 Thread Bruno Postle
On Mon 07-Feb-2011 at 12:21 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote: PSB because that is the only sane way to make large gigapixels. I have made numerous images larger than 4GB and the only real way to edit them is if they are PSB format. This is a problem if the only tool that can edit PSB files is Phot

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-07 Thread Jeffrey Martin
PSB because that is the only sane way to make large gigapixels. I have made numerous images larger than 4GB and the only real way to edit them is if they are PSB format. On Friday, February 4, 2011 4:36:10 PM UTC+1, David Haberthür wrote: > > > On 01.02.2011, at 15:59, Jeffrey Martin wrote: > >

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-04 Thread Jim Watters
On 2011-02-04 5:53 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: On Fri 04-Feb-2011 at 16:36 +0100, David Haberthür wrote: Why would PSB (a quick google detour hinted it's PhotoShop) be desired? Is a layered TIFF not something you can import into PhotoShop? I believe Photoshop does not recognize cropped tiff images.

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-04 Thread Bruno Postle
On Fri 04-Feb-2011 at 16:36 +0100, David Haberthür wrote: On 01.02.2011, at 15:59, Jeffrey Martin wrote: > i agree about raw input / dng output - it's no business of > hugin. > > what about PSB output? In the end I also agree about the RAW input, it's best left to other software. There wou

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-04 Thread David Haberthür
On 01.02.2011, at 15:59, Jeffrey Martin wrote: > i agree about raw input / dng output - it's no business of hugin. > > what about PSB output? In the end I also agree about the RAW input, it's best left to other software. Why would PSB (a quick google detour hinted it's PhotoShop) be desired? Is

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-04 Thread David Haberthür
Hey Thomas. >> Deliberately not copied over are >> -http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2008_ideas#Lens_DatabaseIs this still >> relevant? How does Lensfun et al. do? > > Yes, still relevant. > >> -http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2010_ideas#Zooming_for_fast_preview >> Still relevant? > > Yes. The fast

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-02 Thread Gnome Nomad
Carl von Einem wrote: Gnome Nomad schrieb am 02.02.11 05:11: (...) I think the most the wiki could benefit from is listing some common raw formats and names of programs that can convert them. I just searched for 'raw' in the panotools wiki -> In the pragraph "E

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-02 Thread Carl von Einem
Gnome Nomad schrieb am 02.02.11 05:11: (...) I think the most the wiki could benefit from is listing some common raw formats and names of programs that can convert them. I just searched for 'raw' in the panotools wiki -> In the pragraph "External links" follow t

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-01 Thread Gnome Nomad
kfj wrote: On 1 Feb., 15:35, Rogier Wolff wrote: On the other hand, Hugin might be expanded to allow input-plugins. If we specify that an input-plugin should accept the filename as the first argument and should provide PPM output on its standard out, users can specify say pngtopnm as the inp

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-01 Thread Gnome Nomad
Rogier Wolff wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30:28PM -0800, T. Modes wrote: -http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2009_idea#hugin_RAW_support Here I don't know. I don't think that hugin should move to support raw formats. I agree. There are plenty of programs around to convert various raw form

[hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-01 Thread kfj
On 1 Feb., 15:35, Rogier Wolff wrote: > On the other hand, Hugin might be expanded to allow input-plugins.  If > we specify that an input-plugin should accept the filename as the > first argument and should provide PPM output on its standard out, > users can specify say pngtopnm as the input pl

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-01 Thread paul womack
Rogier Wolff wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30:28PM -0800, T. Modes wrote: -http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2009_idea#hugin_RAW_support Here I don't know. I don't think that hugin should move to support raw formats. There is one plausible (but only just) reason. I was looking into super

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-01 Thread Jeffrey Martin
i agree about raw input / dng output - it's no business of hugin. what about PSB output? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-02-01 Thread Rogier Wolff
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30:28PM -0800, T. Modes wrote: > > -http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2009_idea#hugin_RAW_support > > Here I don't know. I don't think that hugin should move to support raw formats. On the input side, users should convert images to the appropriate bit-depth tiff files, a

[hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2011 Announced

2011-01-31 Thread T. Modes
Hi Habi, > Deliberately not copied over are > -http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2008_ideas#Lens_DatabaseIs this still > relevant? How does Lensfun et al. do? Yes, still relevant. > -http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2009_idea#hugin_RAW_support Here I don't know. > -http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2009