Re: 3174's

2005-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/22/2005 at 02:48 PM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: BTW, what the heck is a 3299-003? As I recall it's a multiplexor; a single coax connection on one side, 8 on the other. It's needed for cluster controllers that support more terminals than they have

Re: Newbie doubt about Supervised State

2005-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/22/2005 at 12:49 PM, De La Fuente Seivane, Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The function offers another possibility: System Key 0-7. But no idea on how to do it... MODESET. But it's dollars to donuts that your shop won 't let you and that they will regret it if they

Re: RSVNONR -DB2

2005-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/22/2005 at 07:07 AM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: They document CANCEL as the official way. Which is *not* equivalent to STOP; it terminates APPC in an uncontrolled[1] fashion and does not get queued if the CANCEl cannot be processed immediately. [1]

Re: RSVNONR -DB2

2005-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/22/2005 at 09:54 AM, Jay Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Because TCAM did. Now, as to why they made that choice for TCAM... Well, at least these days you can still issue a HALT after the STOP that you shouldn't have issued. There was a time when the only effect of

Re: SMP/E Upgrade to 3.3 Gone Bad.

2005-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/22/2005 at 07:20 AM, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I took the advise fixed the directory block issue and ran the job with the REDO option and got the following error message: I sounds like your SELECT operand was incomplete. You need to specify everything

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/22/2005 at 10:52 AM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That last sentence is the most attractive part of all. IBM-MAIN is like a mine field. You have to know who to trust. I'd say that you have to know how to verify the answers for your specific environment.

Re: TSO Unallocate Dataset.

2005-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/22/2005 at 03:50 PM, Robinson, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Well, perhaps if IBM did not charge like blue fury for easy how to questions, then people would not be forced to mask it as a defect in order to get an easy answer (that is more than likely in the manual,

Re: Mistaken Identity - TSOID switch

2005-07-24 Thread Ron van der Zande
Its ok this consolename is free. For every environments, netview/sdsf/batch we are using different names to avoid duplicated console names what is not allowed. In batch and STC's we are setting the console name to SX# where S = STC X = SYSCLONE and # = STC jobnum. In SDSF TSO we are using

Re: 3174's

2005-07-24 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: Does anybody know of any third party support for 3174's, or evem where we can get some for parts? We had a power hit recently and UPS failed. Our service provider is attempting to re-build a few out of what we have, but we may need to go elsewhere. Our biggest issue is the

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-24 Thread Scott Rowe
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:11:08 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand. Most games are written for the 128bit chipsets in Playstation, Nintendo and X-Box. They have to be tinkered to run on XP. I've got a box full of 3.5 diskettes that all run under DOS compliments of various

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 7/24/2005 1:57:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I don't understand is how, on a mailing list where we are all ostensibly OS experts, some can be so oblivious to the basic facts about a platform

Re: Newbie doubt about Supervised State

2005-07-24 Thread Peter Pfaffner
Roland wrote: Same apply to Cobol but also require an assembler prog to issue the MODESET. We have one to create system name token. Hi Hacker ;-), don't try to teach newbies the wrong things !!! It's really dangerous what you are doing, especially if they (the newbies) don't know the things

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-24 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Ed Gould wrote: I have seen employers deny education for non MF related education. Yes I know educate yourself hmmm.. maybe SHARE should offer a session or two? A session or two?? What are you suggesting here?? Why would you advocate SHARE cut its non-mainframe agenda back to only two

Re: 3174's

2005-07-24 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
R.S. wrote: BTW: I found spare *new* Hitachi drives (floppy disk drives, 2.4MB) for $165. Orderable via Internet. I thought they were 2.8MB drives. -- .-. | Edward E. Jaffe|| |

RSVNONR again

2005-07-24 Thread Peter Pfaffner
Radoslaw wrote (partially quoted): As I understood the manual, the address space is marked as unusable not to the end of life, but until all other address apces which co-operated with my a/s are ended. Am I right ? Well Radoslaw, AFAIK quite close, but far more complex. Please let me try to

RSVNONR -DB2

2005-07-24 Thread Peter Pfaffner
Hi all, I tried to read and understand everything posted ;-) But there is only one baseline. Do not recycle DB2 unnecessarily There's no need to do so. If SAP/Peoplesofr and some other really tough applications are happy, you're applications should confirm. If not, they're worse, and

Re: Newbie doubt about Supervised State

2005-07-24 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Hi Peter, it's not dangerous unless the system folks provide a general APF load for this. Of course such a load lib should be READ only and proteced for applications developer at all. However it can be done using Cobol if needed in some raw cases. Roland -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/24/2005 3:45:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Huh? Just what does any of that have to do with anything we were talking about? I don't know. Whatever misconceptions I have sure won't be changed by your attitude. Period end. What I was

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 24, 2005, at 5:24 PM, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Ed Gould wrote: I have seen employers deny education for non MF related education. Yes I know educate yourself hmmm.. maybe SHARE should offer a session or two? A session or two?? What are you suggesting here?? Why would you advocate

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-24 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
Ed Jaffe's point was subtle, but on point. I would estimate that SHARE's non mainframe content is close to 40 or even 50% these days. Anyway, a lot more than one or two sessions. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-24 Thread Scott Rowe
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:36:27 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know. Whatever misconceptions I have sure won't be changed by your attitude. Period end. OK, I guess I do have a bit of an attitude by now... I started off trying to inform you how far from reality your conceptions

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-24 Thread Scott Rowe
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:11:04 EDT, Bill Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't play games on any kind of computer. I am a computer professional, I work on z/OS products, I use a PC as a tool to help me do my work, and I gave up games 20+ years ago. I guess I am also a grumpy old man. I