Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-08 Thread R.S.
(IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: In a message dated 2/7/2008 12:27:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe someone on here said that the DOD said 15 writes over the data set was good enough. The latest (JUN 2001) DOD specification that I read on the Int

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-08 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/7/2008 12:27:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> I believe someone on here said that the DOD said 15 writes over the

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-08 Thread R.S.
Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: On this note... We have about 5000 Double-(blue) and 3000 triple density(green) Carts, due to the sensitivity of the data on them, company policy prohibits us from transporting them to the mother ship who is in the process to devouring us, even though they are encrypted

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread Michael Knigge
R., 1. JCL EXEC ...,PARM='parameter' Can I read data from PARM field in EXEC statement ? Any ACCEPT ? It is accessible from the LINKAGE-SECTION: LINKAGE SECTION. 01 PARM. 05 PARM-LENGTHPIC 9(4) COMP. 05 PARM-STRINGPIC X(999). PROCEDURE DIVISION USING PARM. A00-BEGINN.

Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread R.S.
Both questions regard COBOL 1. JCL EXEC ...,PARM='parameter' Can I read data from PARM field in EXEC statement ? Any ACCEPT ? 2. Dynamic allocation Can I use permanent dataset without DDNAME ? In other words can I specify dataset name instead of ddname ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- B

Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-08 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
On this note... We have about 5000 Double-(blue) and 3000 triple density(green) Carts, due to the sensitivity of the data on them, company policy prohibits us from transporting them to the mother ship who is in the process to devouring us, even though they are encrypted, so how do you destroy them

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread Ganesh Rao
David, Even if it is ASM, would he not need the DD to read a permanent dataset ? He can still use a constant DD in COBOL and do dynalloc using bpxwdyn, putenv or TSO ALLOC against the dataset, then read that DD, correct ? -Gani On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:39:18 -0700, David Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-08 Thread August Carideo
We purchased a degaussing machine and run the tapes through it, a lot fast then trying to erase w/ drives you can rent one also, we did 3490E carts when we went to 3590's so there was not a market for the carts so we crushed them afterwards in our compactor http://www.datalinkassoc.com/products/d

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-08 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 8, 2008, at 2:36 AM, R.S. wrote: SNIP- Gentlemen, Don't you think, the "magic numbers" of the rewrites comes from voodoo (or black magic) rather than from technological reasons ? Any disk taken (stolen) from DASD array contains

Re: RSV-XCEL Going Away

2008-02-08 Thread Mark Zelden
Sam, Thanks for the detailed post. Funny, the other day when I was jumping though hoops [1] to get RSV working IBM L2 never mentioned AOS. So I don't leave anyone out... Thanks to everyone else who responded on IBM-MAIN and off list. I had never even heard of AOS before (nor anyone else

Re: VTOC size

2008-02-08 Thread Skip Robinson
The idea of massive volumes is intriguing, but my concern would be backup/restore. On some our non-z platforms we have huge volumes many times the size of 3390-3. When one of them went south a while back, it took hours and hours to get it restored. With RAID arrays, of course, that's not supposed t

Question on Processors, MVS, LPAR's

2008-02-08 Thread David Day
If I have a machine with 2 processors, and 2 lpars, with each LPAR assigned one of the processors, does each MVS image on each LPAR run with a processor starting at 0, or does one MVS run with 0, and the other with a processor 1, skipping 0? Have always been curios about this, but can't fin

Re: SPAM: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
--: Both questions regard COBOL 1. JCL EXEC ...,PARM='parameter' Can I read data from PARM field in EXEC statement ? Any ACCEPT ? - Can't answer; never learned COBOL. -- 2. Dynamic alloc

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS
You can pass the File-Name itself on a call to a subprogram, and this will expose the FCB to the subprogram, however I would guess this is protected storage and wouldn't let the program change any of the values. As it doesn't expose the DCB I don't think you could use this to dynamically change

Re: RSV-XCEL Going Away

2008-02-08 Thread Clark F Morris
On 7 Feb 2008 14:51:15 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Hi, > >AOS works fine instead of RSVF for us. >You can open a PMR or better just ask Level-2 to test this with you the >next time you have a PMR active for something else. The IBM folks may >enjoy the practice too some don't use i

Unable to complete IPL - message IOS120D

2008-02-08 Thread Nigel Wolfendale
I am attempting to IPL our test system - which is being upgraded to z/OS 1.7 (Prod is at 1.4) - I know 1.7 won't last long before it has to be upgraded again. I have just taken over this system from a colleague who has done most of the SeverPac install - and now passed it on to me. Soon after IPL

Re: Unable to complete IPL - message IOS120D

2008-02-08 Thread Matthew Stitt
During IPL all unit addresses not marked as offline will be scanned by the NIP routines. If a device is not available (maybe a hardware reserve) you will get that message. As you have seen, replying CONT will cause NIP to take the device offline. For you, it appears to be non-problematic. As to

Soft Capping

2008-02-08 Thread Kelman, Tom
This has been cross posted to the MXG list. At the end of last year I was asked to determine what would be practical soft caps for our LPARs. We are currently at z/OS v1.7 so we can't cap at the CEC level yet. Of course, the reason for the cap was to keep software costs down, especially for t

Re: Unable to complete IPL - message IOS120D

2008-02-08 Thread Michael Saraco
Have you checked to make sure that volume is not in your JESPARMS. Have you checked VATLSTxx to see if and how that volume is being mounted. From: "Eatherly, John D [EQ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: 02/08/2008 01:32 PM Subject: Re: Unable to complete IPL - message IOS12

Re: Unable to complete IPL - message IOS120D

2008-02-08 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:37:24 -0600, Nigel Wolfendale wrote: > >Soon after IPL we get the message: > >*01 IOS120D I/O TIMED OUT FOR DEVICE 044D. REPLY 'WAIT' >FOR I/O COMPLETION OR 'CONT' TO CONTINUE WITH DEVICE OFFLINE > >As the manual indicates, if we reply 'WAIT', the message reappears, and >reply

Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread Bill Klein
Lots of replies - with varying degrees of accuracy and current COBOL support usefulness. However, both of these are easy and well documented in current native COBOL. For getting the PARM string (no matter its length), use the LE callable service CEE3PR2. See: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-

Re: Soft Capping

2008-02-08 Thread Edward Jaffe
Kelman, Tom wrote: Now, after that explanation, my question. Has anybody had to cap their machine by LPAR like this? If so, do you insure that the individual caps would add up to some sort of specified limit, or did you set them a little higher realizing that they probably wouldn't hit the max

Re: Question on Processors, MVS, LPAR's

2008-02-08 Thread Pat Mihalec
If I'm remembering correctly it depends on how you define it in the HMC. Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access i

Re: Unable to complete IPL - message IOS120D

2008-02-08 Thread Eatherly, John D [EQ]
Can that device be reserved by another system? Check that. Thanks John Eatherly -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nigel Wolfendale Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Unable to complete IP

Re: Unable to complete IPL - message IOS120D

2008-02-08 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
Are there any outstanding replies? I would think that if there is an issue with that volume being offline, there should be a 'reply device name or cancel' outstanding. Also, how did you start JES2. If you started it without the noreq parm, then you will have to issue the $S command after the S

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread Scott Ford
Darren, Yes you can I do it all the time, Do you want an example..?? Regards, Scott Ford IDF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re

JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-08 Thread McKown, John
I am just now looking at this. I have a Escon CTC between my two z/OS 1.8 images. It is currently used for VTAM cross domain. I funnel my NJE traffic between the two images on this. Oh, these two images are on the same physical box. I also have IP connectivity between them via OSAs. I am considerin

Re: DSLIST progress bar (was: OMVS ... ISPF)

2008-02-08 Thread Edward Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:33:48 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote: Did you try or ? Instead of RESET? RESET seems to be the only thing that has any effect while the keyboard is locked. (I realize this is getting into terminal emulator idiosyncrasies and VTAMicity.) In

VS: Soft Capping

2008-02-08 Thread Lindy Mayfield
May I ask, just for helping me to understand, why one wouldn't do this to keep software costs down? I'm still, after a long time studying (in a vaccuum) trying to understand all this, so that may be a dumb question. Also I may be mixing up "soft capping" with "resource group capping". Lindy

Re: VTOC size

2008-02-08 Thread Ron Hawkins
Skip, On FICON it would be reasonable to expect to get 50MB/sec to and from your Disk and tape drives. I know FICON can go faster (I've run 377MB/sec through a FX4 port), but you'll normally have to share with all the other traffic in the SAN, disk, and tape units. 50MB/sec would be a reasonable n

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Two COBOL questions [snip] call 'putenv' using by value file-ptr ret

Re: DSLIST progress bar (was: OMVS ... ISPF)

2008-02-08 Thread Edward Jaffe
Edward Jaffe wrote: RESET is just a local 3270 key. It sends no message to the host nor can it effect the state of a half-duplex SNA LU2 session. Oops. Should have written "affect the state of ..." :-[ -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Ang

DSLIST progress bar (was: OMVS ... ISPF)

2008-02-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:33:48 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote: >> >I did this quite by accident this afternoon -- bad finger fumble. >And I watched while the progress bar began to creep across the window >with aching slowness. Curses! But wait; there appears to be an escape: >the key legend at the bot

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:04 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Two COBOL questions [snip] > >call 'putenv' using by value file-ptr returning rc

Re: Engineering changes and software version or service level

2008-02-08 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
> My question is how (if any) do I check whether or not any specific > EC/MCL requires a specific level of z/OS or specific PTFs? The only time I was in such a position was when we had a R14 with overdue service... The engineer that proposed the microcode was able to supply me with all the necess

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread David Logan
Sure, but you can have DYNALLOC do either of two things: (1) You specify your own DD name, or (2) Allow DYNALLOC to generate the DD name for you Because COBOL likes static DD names, you can specify the dataset name, and ask it to relate it to a DD name that you then specify in your FD. Da

Re: VTOC size

2008-02-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 2/8/2008 3:45:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >On FICON it would be reasonable to expect to get 50MB/sec to and from your Disk and tape drives. ... >So 54,000MB at 50MB/sec is 1080 seconds, or 18 minutes. I may be wrong, but I think backup/archiv

Re: VS: Soft Capping

2008-02-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>May I ask, just for helping me to understand, why one wouldn't do this to keep >software costs down? If it's valid, it's a good choice. But, sometimes you screw up performance/throughput and project deliverables. This is also a cost item. The issue is to determine which is the more effective alt

Realtime retrieval of SMF records

2008-02-08 Thread Mark L. Wheeler
Greetings folks, I wrote an application some years ago to pull LPAR utilization data off the system in real time - using the CMS Pipelines STARMON stage, which connects to z/VM's *MONITOR service. The IFL this runs on is being shut down so the functionality needs to move to z/OS. I can see that I

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-08 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: > > On this note... We have about 5000 Double-(blue) and 3000 triple > > density(green) Carts, due to the sensitivity of the data on them, > > company policy prohibits us from transporting them to t

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread David Logan
Per question #2, look up DYNALLOC. I don't know if there are any COBOL calls for it, but you can write a routine in C/C++, PLI, ASM or just about any other language to make an SVC 99 call. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
R.S. wrote: >Both questions regard COBOL > >1. JCL EXEC ...,PARM='parameter' >Can I read data from PARM field in EXEC statement ? >Any ACCEPT ? Yes! This example accept a numeric parameter of 2 digits. This example is used to accept a number 1-12 (month) and give a RC based on input. If no para

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread Steve Comstock
R.S. wrote: Both questions regard COBOL 1. JCL EXEC ...,PARM='parameter' Can I read data from PARM field in EXEC statement ? Any ACCEPT ? 2. Dynamic allocation Can I use permanent dataset without DDNAME ? In other words can I specify dataset name instead of ddname ? I see you got a nice clea

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-08 Thread R.S.
Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote: [...] We degaused some 5000 cartridges years ago before selling them to a broker as used cartridges. Degausing erases the data, including the label, so the tapes must be reinitialized but that is all. Not in this case. 3590's are *unusable* after degaussing. The sam

Re: VTOC size

2008-02-08 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Mark, I suppose that you have already got the answers that you wanted, This is just an alternate idea. When we initialized our Shark array's in 2004, we create a few with 1113 cylinders, a few 10017 and most 3339 cylinders. The last two we installed, we had mainly 32760 Cylinder volumes, about 1

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:18 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Two COBOL questions > > > Both questions regard COBOL > > 1. JCL EXEC ...,PARM='parameter' > Can I rea

Re: I'm back

2008-02-08 Thread Barkow, Eileen
the other possible culprit i forgot to mention was Websphere App server 6.0. even though the same error occurred after WAS was taken down, it might have left some residual side effects. the z/os 1.7 lpar where TOMCAT/JBOSS does work does not run Websphere App server (just HTTP server) and the z/os

Re: DSLIST progress bar (was: OMVS ... ISPF)

2008-02-08 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:36:08 -0800, Ron Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I don't recall the differences, but as long as I can remember >the way to cancel most things in TSO was to "reset then PA1" >or "Reset then ATTN" This was on real CRT and emulators. > >I don't recall RESET alone doi

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-08 Thread McKown, John
Oh, I forgot the CEEOPTS DD statememt for specifying LE options. You can use that if you need to exceed the 120 character PARM= length. //CEEOPTS DD * ENVAR('DD1=DSN(MY.SEQ.DSN) SHR','DD2=DSN(MY.PDS(MEMBER)) SHR') /* -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Af

Re: WLM for toddlers

2008-02-08 Thread Mohammad Khan
Just a little nitpicking - enclave SRBs for distributed threads are in DIST but the executable code for SQL and V9 native stored procedures resides in DBM1. Off course it's all charged to the SRB ( thus to DIST ). Mohammad On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:17:28 -0500, Wayne Driscoll <[EMAIL P

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-08 Thread Eric Bielefeld
H - if you can't ship them, what's the point of encrypting them. I guess they could get stolen from your site. Why can't you ship them? That says to me you don't believe the encryption is very safe or effective! When I was at P&H and they decommissioned our z/OS datacenter almost 2 year

Re: Unable to complete IPL - message IOS120D

2008-02-08 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/8/2008 12:59:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: some adjustments to the IODF to ensure that only the correct volumes are online at IPL time -- and that you have all the volumes that you need >> I'd scan parmlibs for the volser then sort the membe

Re: Why isn't OMVS command integrated with ISPF?

2008-02-08 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Why isn't OMVS command integrated with ISPF? On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:15:35 +0100, Lindy Mayfield wrote

Re: DSLIST progress bar (was: OMVS ... ISPF)

2008-02-08 Thread Ron Hawkins
Gil, I don't recall the differences, but as long as I can remember the way to cancel most things in TSO was to "reset then PA1" or "Reset then ATTN" This was on real CRT and emulators. I don't recall RESET alone doing anything but unlocking the terminal for the PA1 or ATTN. Better people than me

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-08 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 8, 2008, at 3:50 PM, McKown, John wrote: I am just now looking at this. I have a Escon CTC between my two z/OS 1.8 images. It is currently used for VTAM cross domain. I funnel my NJE traffic between the two images on this. Oh, these two images are on the same physical box. I also have

Re: Soft Capping

2008-02-08 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 12:23 -0600, Kelman, Tom wrote: > Has anybody had to cap their > machine by LPAR like this? If so, do you insure that the individual > caps would add up to some sort of specified limit, or did you set them a > little higher realizing that they probably wouldn't hit the max a

Re: VTOC size

2008-02-08 Thread Jim Phoenix
Well, 15,000 RPM works out to 250 RPS. However, I seriously doubt that a RAID disk will read exactly 57K of emulated track per revolution. Whether it is more or less, I haven't a clue. (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: In a message dated 2/8/2008 3:45:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,

Re: VTOC size

2008-02-08 Thread Jim Phoenix
1. Slightly less time than it takes to backup 32760/3339 (approx. 9.81) mod 3 volumes that are being stacked to the same output tape. Figure some housekeeping occurs when the backup software finishes one volume & then starts another. The difference should be minuscule when total number of un