Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, Is it possible to assign a service class depending on the system the job is running on? We are running z/OS 1.9. TIA Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
??? ?? ??? gad...@malam.com wrote in message news:bba5d76fb046794fa7f01f8e02bfc1710228c...@jer-mail1.jer.ad.malam.co m... Hi, Is it possible to assign a service class depending on the system the job is running on? We are running z/OS 1.9. TIA Gadi The

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Is it possible to assign a service class depending on the system the job is running on? Yes. SI/SIG System Instance (Group) We are running z/OS 1.9. Been around since OS/390, IIRC. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Cobe Xu
how about by Qualifier Type SSC, or Subsystem Collection Name, in Classification Rule for JES. 2009/5/27 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com Hi, Is it possible to assign a service class depending on the system the job is running on? We are running z/OS 1.9. TIA Gadi

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The Classification Rules are run when the job enters the system, so the Service class is already defined when job starts executing. Incorrect. You can use System Instance, or System Instance Group in the classificatio section, by sub-system. At my last shop, we did it to encourage TSO users

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote in message news:471434171-1243413448-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-4713 484...@bxe1305.bisx.prod.on.blackberry... The Classification Rules are run when the job enters the system, so the Service class is already defined when job starts executing.

Re: (CORRECTION) Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
My bad. It's SY -- System Name And SYG -- System Name Group. I double checked the manual -- should have done that beforehand. Sorry! (8-{[} --Original Message-- From: (yahoo) Ted MacNEIL Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Yes, but still the SC is determined when the job is submitted, not when the job starts to run on one of the systems of the MAS. And that is what Gadi asked, dependent on where the job runs. Depends on the job type, and whether you are using WLM-Managed INITs or not. TSO, STC, ASCH, all support

IMS..IMS..Gotta love IMS. Why is my PCB failing?

2009-05-27 Thread David Logan
I have yet another mystifying situation. When I run my transaction online, I get a U0476. When I run it under BTS, is happily blows right by the same code (crashes later, but I’ll work on that later.) It crashes on this: CALL CEETDLI USING GHU - and yes, I have tried CBLTDLI, no difference

IMS..IMS..Gotta love IMS. Why is my PCB failing?

2009-05-27 Thread Bill Klein
When you are running this with BTS, are you ALSO using an interactive language-specific debugger, e.g. Xpediter, Debug-Tool, or similar. (They all have ways of running with BTS). If so, then I would trace when/how those fields are getting correctly filled in under BTS in the program logic - and

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Scott T. Harder
Now, see???... THAT is a great piece of information! I *hate* those damn numbers always having to do NUM OFF and many times having (or just wanting) to clear the numbers off the end (just because it seems cleaner to me (i'm a bit anal that way). But, now I know the origin and that

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Bob Shannon
I've heard many stories about card decks being dropped every which-way, but what did you have to do when that happened? If you were smart, the first step of every job that required card input was a sort to insure the cards were in proper order. It didn't matter when they were dropped as

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 08:18 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote: If you were smart, the first step of every job that required card input was a sort to insure the cards were in proper order. It didn't matter when they were dropped as long as the cards weren't damaged and all of the cards were picked up.

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) writes: We used to joke about how IBM found a way to get rid of all their olld 96-column stock. In Canada (I don't know if

Re: IMS..IMS..Gotta love IMS. Why is my PCB failing?

2009-05-27 Thread David Logan
OK, that was all I needed, thanks. I put displays in around everything that even touched the PCB, and I found the program that was horking it up. Thanks! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Klein Sent: Wednesday, May 27,

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If you were smart, the first step of every job that required card input was a sort to insure the cards were in proper order. It didn't matter when they were dropped as long as the cards weren't damaged and all of the cards were picked up. I didn't always perform the sort, but I always

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Very early on I got into the habit of diagonally marking (the edge of) decks with a texta. Just in case. It took my first time dropping a deck to learn to do that. I didn't have to be told twice. (8-{]} - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:29:34 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Is it possible to assign a service class depending on the system the job is running on? Yes. Possibly (more below). Definitely NO in a shared spool (MAS). SI/SIG System Instance (Group) That is subsystem instance

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Joseph H Winterton
As an early day hacker in college, me and a few buddies took a card and punched every hole out, then reproduced that card till we had a few decks, then put one deck in the keypunch machine to reproduce, another deck in each sorting machine and each printer in the room. Started them all

Re: TCB time question

2009-05-27 Thread P S
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com wrote: The following is typical output found in the SYSMSG produced by a batch job on our z/OS 1.9 system:  -STEPNAME PROCSTEP    RC   EXCP   CONN    TCB    SRB  CLOCK   SERV  -NNN1SW               00   2326   1195 200.44    .00  

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/27/2009 7:12:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, scottyt.har...@gmail.com writes: because it seems cleaner to me (i'm a bit anal that way). But, now I know the origin and that changes everything. Well in the olden days when you dropped the deck(unprinted) it was

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Phil Smith III
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Joseph H Winterton jose...@us.ibm.com wrote: As an early day hacker in college, me and a few buddies took a card and punched every hole out, then reproduced that card till we had a few decks, then put one deck in the keypunch machine to reproduce, another

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Eric Bielefeld
After I read the quoted text, I kept thinking that the system 3 had 2 rows of 45 columns. I finally remembered that what I was thinking of was the Univac punched card. It was the same size as an 80 column card, but had 2 rows of 45 columns, and the holes in the card were round. My first job

Re: Dataset FLASH/SNAP question

2009-05-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
Jennifer, There are many sites doing something similar with FlashCopy on HDS and IBM, Shadowimage on HDS, Snapshot on SUN, and Snap on EMC. However, because you are using EMC in system copy you really need to limit your scope to EMC's Snap and the products that support it. Experience with other

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 May 2009 12:32:09 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: You seem to be agreeing with Steve Thompson that In the MVS world, we are not device dependant, only insofar as there is only one type of device. A weak assertion indeed. Would you be willing to go so far as to side

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Compton, John
Back in my days as a trainee operator, dropping a tray (remember those grey trays of 2000 or so cards?) was known as a 'floor sort'. AT Another place I worked at had the only 2540 I've ever seen. ISTR a program that validated data cards 'on the fly', sending valid cards to output hopper 1 and

IBM-Main Postings Yesterday

2009-05-27 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Yesterday, I didn't get any emails from IBM-Main until about 5:30 P.M. CST. Did anyone else have any problems? I went to the web site, and saw that there were postings. This morning, I had the normal amount of emails from IBM-Main. Eric Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee,

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 May 2009 18:23:38 -0700, joa...@swbell.net (John McKown) wrote: I agree, except for truly direct access data sets. What I have fought with here is the mindset of I must allocate in CYLINDERS in order to be efficient. I want them to allocate in RECORDS (or millions of records). But, oh,

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Diehl, Gary
I agree with Mark Zelden. When we looked at trying to find a way to put development batch in a different service class than production batch, when it runs on a different system in the sysplex but uses exactly the same job name (for testing - same in test as in production), we ended up with this

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
However, SY is not valid for a JOB, which is what the OP requested. I went back to the manual and checked. You are correct, but with my bad eyesight, I had to download the PDF and rotate the table on page 72, to figure it out. There has to be a better way to present that than a table rotated 90

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The computer science professor soon arrived to stop the stress test of the machines. ;-) Somebody tried that at the University of Waterloo and was expelled for sabotaging expensive (and old equipment). Universities, in Ontario at least, are/were not well funded. I almost got expelled for

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Diehl, Gary gary.di...@allstate.com wrote in message news:448c07246fdb244e86554e7f2c6ee7a904f42...@a0116-xpo0114-s.swdc.ad.a llstate.com... I agree with Mark Zelden. When we looked at trying to find a way to put development batch in a different service class than production batch, when it

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
As for sorting dropped cards: in the mid-80s, I worked at UofWaterloo. We had one full professor who refused to get off of cards. I think I know who that was. On a related note, at one Insurance Company I worked at, we had one of the most prestigious pension plans in North America. It was

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
Another I didn't mention before could be to use automation or the IWMRESET WLM API to change the service class after the job is running. ISTR some examples in MVS Update (Xephon) or one of the other pubs to do this. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
And of course, people cut and paste their SORTWK* files often without thinking. We made it even more turnkey than that. We cleaned up all the Production JCL, and made them dynamic. After all, they are temporary anyway, make them all very, very large and we won't be called in. With SYNCSORT,

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Another I didn't mention before could be to use automation or the IWMRESET WLM API to change the service class after the job is running. Hey, Rube! Can you say 'Goldberg'? Sometimes, the job runs so quickly that it's not worth the effort. You can set up Service Class by Transaction (Job)

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. ibm-m...@tpg.com.au (Shane) writes: So long as it wasn't an object deck. Very early on I got into the habit of diagonally marking (the edge of) decks with a

Re: Assigning service class depending on system

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:13:08 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: It is valid for TSO, STC, OMVS, ASCH, SAP, and TCP (I think that is the entire list). If SYSH is SAP, which I don't believe it is, then yes except for TCP. It is not the same as SAP. The table indicates that it is not.

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:45:06 -0500, Eric Bielefeld eric- ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: ... By the way, for the 96 column card, did each row go from left to right, or on one row did the columns go from right to left? I was just thinking that when you punched a 96 column card in a keypunch, it would

Re: IBM Optim question...

2009-05-27 Thread Galambos, Robert
Actually in a fairly/good/large implementation of test data privacy the numbers don't seem to be unreasonable (but there are a number of factors that need to be looked at. (i.e ONLY DB2 data, or MVS/Oracle/VSAM as well, instead of?). Also a number of differnet aspects need to be. An example.

Re: IBM-Main Postings Yesterday

2009-05-27 Thread Dave Salt
Yes, I had the same problem. I didn't know why it was happening, so I resubscribed. Today everything seems back to normal. Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! http://www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htm Date: Wed, 27 May 2009

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Scott T. Harder
It's interesting to me that I am seeing a couple of references to the 80's (albeit early 80's) in some of these posts related to punched cards. I started in 1984 at ATT in Orlando (in I/O Distribution) and saw nary a punched card. I guess it depends on where you were. -- All the best, Scott

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It's interesting to me that I am seeing a couple of references to the 80's (albeit early 80's) in some of these posts related to punched cards. I started in 1984 at ATT in Orlando (in I/O Distribution) and saw nary a punched card. I guess it depends on where you were. Three years can make a big

RMF Monitor III view PU/PROCU question

2009-05-27 Thread Diehl, Gary
All, Here's a curiosity question, which I haven't found a satisfactory answer for in the help panels or the manual. On z/OS 1.10 in RMF III, looking at the PU/PROCU panel, and adding up the Time on CP% : Total column, which is supposed to contain the percent of the CPU used by the task during

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Diehl, Gary
I started mainframes in 1988, and worked punch cards until 1991. I even had the glorious experience of a multi-file floor sort exercise, thankfully the cards all had sequence numbers so all I had to do was run them through the interpreter, and then put them back in sequence by hand. The sequence

Re: IBM-Main Postings Yesterday

2009-05-27 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Hmm - I didn't do anything - the postings just started up again. I'm surprised no one else had this problem. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com Yes, I had the same problem. I didn't know

Card reader punches and related was Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Clark Morris
On 27 May 2009 07:32:20 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: As for sorting dropped cards: in the mid-80s, I worked at UofWaterloo. We had one full professor who refused to get off of cards. I think I know who that was. On a related note, at one Insurance Company I worked at, we had one

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Eric Bielefeld
We still had our reader/punch until the end of 1995. I don't think we used it at all the last year. It finally took moving the datacenter to get rid of it. I do remember one time when they still used a lot of punched cards in the factory for picking tickets etc. when the punch broke. We

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-27 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 May 2009 19:16:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: BLOCK CONTAINS On Sat, 23 May

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread William Donzelli
It's interesting to me that I am seeing a couple of references to the 80's (albeit early 80's) in some of these posts related to punched cards.   I started in 1984 at ATT in Orlando (in I/O Distribution) and saw nary a punched card.  I guess it depends on where you were. I can think of only

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread William Donzelli
We still had our reader/punch until the end of 1995.  I don't think we used it at all the last year.  It finally took moving the datacenter to get rid of it. One of the independent tax accountants in Connecticut was still using a Univac 9300 (sort of a 360/20 clone, after a few beers) to run

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread William Donzelli
Regarding dropped decks, I don't remember if there was a high speed sorter for the 96 column cards.  (There probably was one, but I don't think I ever saw it.)   There was a card sort/merge program for the MOd 20 + MFCM so I assume there was also one for the S/3 + MFCU. I do not think there

Re: RMF Monitor III view PU/PROCU question

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Can someone please explain why adding the total column isn't yielding a multiple of 100? Welcome to Capacity Planning 101. And, I don't mean that disparagingly. This phenomenon has been observed for aeons. There is hardware measurement and there is software measurement. First, the simple one:

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Scott T. Harder wrote: Now, see???... THAT is a great piece of information! I *hate* those damn numbers always having to do NUM OFF and many times having (or just wanting) to clear the numbers off the end (just because it seems cleaner to me (i'm a bit anal that way). But, now I

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. scottyt.har...@gmail.com (Scott T. Harder) writes: VBG. Too funny. I've heard many stories about card decks being dropped every which-way, but what did you

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
When I was a systems programmer at ADR, we had one programmer with the bad habit of resting his box of punch cards on the 1403 BTDT. Not me, personally. But, I didn't have to read the rest of the post to figure out what happened. Also, a note on chad. We used to go around to the key punches

Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Pace
Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE? I find only the SDK on the IBM site, and it's way more code than I need or want. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote: Good catch... I didn't even notice is said 10M and not 10G. My default is 10G so my mind just saw

z/OS V1R10 and CICS TS V3R1

2009-05-27 Thread Gee, Norman
The planning documents state that CICS TS 3.1 is supported in z/OS R10. What do we do about the JAVA requirements? CICS TS 3.1 only supports Java 4 and Java 4 is no longer orderable. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: z/OS V1R10 and CICS TS V3R1

2009-05-27 Thread Barkow, Eileen
it is a free upgrade to go to CICS TS 3.2 from 3.1 - but a few things may have to be upgraded along with CICS, like vendor products and maybe some user written programs. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gee, Norman Sent:

Re: z/OS V1R10 and CICS TS V3R1

2009-05-27 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gee, Norman The planning documents state that CICS TS 3.1 is supported in z/OS R10. What do we do about the JAVA requirements? CICS TS 3.1 only supports Java 4 and Java 4 is no longer orderable. It appears you can

z/OS STORAGE service

2009-05-27 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, I'm working on a user exit and the MQ intercommunication book has the following: Exits must free any storage obtained, or ensure that it will be freed by a subsequent exit invocation. For storage that is to persist between invocations, use the z/OS STORAGE service; there is no

Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-27 Thread Brian Peterson
I think the answer is no. http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/software/java/products/ This Web site is the definitive source of information for the z/OS Java products. It should be consulted for the latest on content, availability and service levels. The above site only lists SDK's.

Re: z/OS STORAGE service

2009-05-27 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Look up the STORAGE macro in the Assembler Services Reference, It provides services similar to GETMAIN/FREEMAIN, but via a PC routine as opposed to an SVC. === Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com

Re: IBM-Main Postings Yesterday

2009-05-27 Thread Linda Mooney
I had the same experience.  The first post I saw was at 3PM PDT. Linda Mooney - Original Message - From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:44:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: IBM-Main Postings Yesterday

Re: z/OS STORAGE service

2009-05-27 Thread Bill Fairchild
STORAGE is IBM's recommended successor to GETMAIN/FREEMAIN, which are both still supported. See MVS PROGRAMMING: Assembler Services Reference, Volume 2 (IARR2V-XCTLX), aka SA22-7607. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel:

Re: RMF Monitor III view PU/PROCU question

2009-05-27 Thread Diehl, Gary
Ted, Thanks! After I hit SEND, I had a fleeting wonder if I'd just asked a really dumb question [again]! I'd considered capture ratio, but dismissed the idea because I thought our capture ratio was =90%. I guess it's lower than that! I appreciate your well thought out explanation. Best

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 27 May 2009 18:22:22 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: When I was a systems programmer at ADR, we had one programmer with the bad habit of resting his box of punch cards on the 1403 BTDT. ... Or, ... On the the punch side of the 2540 there was a little platform about 1

Re: RMF Monitor III view PU/PROCU question

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Thanks! After I hit SEND, I had a fleeting wonder if I'd just asked a really dumb question [again]! There are no dumb questions; just dumb answers! I'd considered capture ratio, but dismissed the idea because I thought our capture ratio was =90%. I want to see a system that high! Your 83% is

Re: z/OS STORAGE service

2009-05-27 Thread esst...@juno.com
Mike Ward wrote: I would like to use the persistent storage between invocations, but I can't seem to find anything on the z/OS STORAGE service. If this is an MQ Client Channel Exit You need to be very careful how you obtain, pass, and release storage. Will You be passing the address of the

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Yup. Chad looked like fun. At that age we didn't think much about it, but those things had VERY sharp corners. Not good in eyes. Yes! That's one reason I realised I was a twit. We hurt somebody. Stupid is as stupid does! - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: IBM-Main Postings Yesterday

2009-05-27 Thread Stephen Mednick
I had the same problem and did exactly what Dave did and everything is now back to normal. Stephen Mednick Computer Supervisory Services Sydney, Australia Asia/Pacific representatives for Innovation Data Processing, Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z/OS STORAGE service

2009-05-27 Thread Ward, Mike S
Passing just to itself via a STCM R1,B'',MQCXP_EXITDATA at exit init time. Then I plan to release it at exit termination time. I haven't figured out how I can continue to reuse it over and over between different invocations. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBM-Main Postings Yesterday

2009-05-27 Thread Linda Mooney
Greetings! I too had the problem, did nothing at all, now back to normal Linda Mooney - Original Message - From: Stephen Mednick ibmm...@css.au.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:47:10 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: IBM-Main Postings

Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-27 Thread John McKown
On Wed, 27 May 2009, Mark Pace wrote: Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE? I find only the SDK on the IBM site, and it's way more code than I need or want. I'm curious as to why? It's not as if the JRE were any freer. I've never seen only the JRE packaged for z/OS. -- Trying to write

Re: Java V6 install problem

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Pace
Because the SDK is HUGE with allow the documentation, sample apps, etc... The JRE usually is much smaller. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:58 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009, Mark Pace wrote: Is there a place to get ONLY the JRE? I find only the SDK on the IBM site,

Re: IBM-Main Postings Yesterday

2009-05-27 Thread Art Celestini
This probably didn't affect everyone in the same way, but I happened to notice in my mail server log, many of these: 2009-05-26 15:45:22.241356500 tcpserver: ok 1328 mars3::::192.168.1.243:25 bama.ua.edu::::130.160.4.114::35469 2009-05-26 15:45:22.241719500 rblsmtpd: 130.160.4.114

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Steve Runtsch
Count yourself lucky how you learned about that. When I was a systems programmer at ADR, we had one programmer with the bad habit of resting his box of punch cards on the 1403; it was conveniently next to the card reader, and a comfortable height. He persisted in this habit despite

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
A majority of our disk data sets that were not in use were deleted as a result. We had a similar situation. The datasets were backed up, but we didn't have HSM, FDR, ASM2, or anything like that. A non-programmer storage analyst (and I use the term loosely), had written an EZYTREV programme to

Re: RMF Monitor III view PU/PROCU question

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 27 May 2009 19:41:14 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Thanks! After I hit SEND, I had a fleeting wonder if I'd just asked a really dumb question [again]! There are no dumb questions; just dumb answers! I'd considered capture ratio, but dismissed the idea because I thought

Re: z/OS STORAGE service

2009-05-27 Thread Ward, Mike S
I investigated the Storage macro and it seems to work just like the getmain and freemain macros. If you have any expertise in selecting persistent storage, I'm more than happy to listen. It seems there are 4 types of storage. Task, job step, address space, and system. I was thinking that job step

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 25 May 2009 19:13:43 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: OK, but how is this desire not satisfied via AVGREC allocations? Oh, it is and you'll claim your applications folks can't handle the concept. AVGREC is: o Woefully misleading; it seems to abbreviate AVeraGe RECord size, with which it

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread P S
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:53 PM, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com wrote: I can think of only one tiny shop in Ohio that still uses punch cards, although very rarely (once a month?). Any others? My dad used punch cards until he died in 2006. Of course, he carried them in his shirt pocket as

Re: z/OS STORAGE service

2009-05-27 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS STORAGE service Passing just to itself via a STCM R1,B'',MQCXP_EXITDATA at exit init time.

Re: z/OS STORAGE service

2009-05-27 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/5/27 Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org: I investigated the Storage macro and it seems to work just like the getmain and freemain macros. If you have any expertise in selecting persistent storage, I'm more than happy to listen. It seems there are 4 types of storage. Task, job step, address

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ken Gunther
There was also the 129 Data Recorder which buffered your card data before punching it. Don't forget the 96 column cards used on system/3 Ken G. Ted MacNEIL wrote: I remember 80-column punch cards. I don't remember the model of the keypunch machine, but I do

Item on Cost savings on the MF

2009-05-27 Thread Ed Gould
SHOULD YOU MOVE APPS ON OR OFF THE MAINFRAME TO CUT COSTS? http://go.techtarget.com/r/7192091/6570353 Wayne Kernochan, Contributor As IT seeks to cut costs in the face of declining budgets by every means possible, the mainframe now appears to be a likely source of cost savings and a likely target

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Don't forget the 96 column cards used on system/3 This was already discussed. I haven't forgotten; I just never used them. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Scott T. Harder
Yeah... understood. So much changed so fast; and continues to do so. On 5/27/09, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: It's interesting to me that I am seeing a couple of references to the 80's (albeit early 80's) in some of these posts related to punched cards. I started in 1984 at ATT in

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: BLOCK CONTAINS On Mon, 25 May 2009 19:13:43 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: OK, but how is

Re: z/OS STORAGE service (cp:1140)

2009-05-27 Thread Jim Mulder
Wayne Driscoll/Chicago/i...@ibmus wrote on 05/27/2009 03:30:23 PM: Look up the STORAGE macro in the Assembler Services Reference, It provides services similar to GETMAIN/FREEMAIN, but via a PC routine as opposed to an SVC. SVC and branch entry to VSM services are available via the STORAGE

IBM takes it on the chin for a DB2 problem....

2009-05-27 Thread Ed Gould
Delays in GSIS processing traced to IBM glitch If you are a retired government employee or a pensioner experiencing delays in the processing of your money claims, do not blame the Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) management staff. Read the story at