ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Al Chu
Hi Message 'IKJ56861I FILE AAA NOT FREED, DATA SET IS OPEN' is received for command FREE FI(AAA). File AAA is a ISPF table library. The table library was open and closed using ISPEXEC TBOPEN TAB1 WRITE LIBRARY(AAA) ISPEXEC TBCLOSE TAB1 LIBRARY(AAA) The FREE command was issued

Re: Auxiliary Storage Management I/O in a RAID array world

2010-05-06 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Starr, Alan alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov wrote in message news:d7d6aecb674795469330825806700780113a0fe...@exchange.calpers.ca.gov ... Thanks Brian and Bill, That was very useful information and covers the suspend / resume aspect. I hope that somebody will be able to address the cache

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Kayhan Tanriverir
You can try tso free all command     Iyi calism Hi Al Chu, You can try tso free all command     Iyi calismalar, Saygilar / Regards Kayhan Tanriverir Vizyon BT Uzman Sistem Programcisi / Senior Systems Programmer From: Al Chu al_chu...@optusnet.com.au To:

Re: How to analyze a volume's access by dataset

2010-05-06 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
On 5/1/2010 12:00 AM, John Norgauer wrote: Is there any software available that will show the access by dataset(or by CCHR) for a given volume? John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You can try tso free all command Still won't work if the file is open. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message:

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
On Thu, 6 May 2010 09:23:47 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Kayhan Tanriverir wrote: You can try tso free all command Not recommended. You may or may not be able to continue your session. Still won't work if the file is open. Of course! See in first post in this thread this

XMIT MANAGER

2010-05-06 Thread David Cartwright
Slightly OT I'm afraid, but does anyone know if there is a 64 bit version of Xmit Manager? I no longer have a 32 bit Windows available (talk about dead media!). The home website seems to have gone and it won't install from an old (months) download. I want to look inside file 172 to find the

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 6 May 2010 17:00:12 +1000 Al Chu al_chu...@optusnet.com.au wrote: :Message 'IKJ56861I FILE AAA NOT FREED, DATA SET IS OPEN' is received for :command FREE FI(AAA). :File AAA is a ISPF table library. The table library was open and closed :using :ISPEXEC TBOPEN TAB1 WRITE LIBRARY(AAA)

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Al Chu
Hi Binyamin TBOPEN and TBOPEN have RC=0. FREE FI(AAA) doesn't work once TBOPEN and TBCLOSE on the table were executed. If I backout to the READY mode then run ISPF and FREE FI(AAA) before running TBOPEN/TBCLOSE, the FREE FI works. I suspect that ISPF opens the file when TBOPEN is issued and keep

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Beesley, Paul
From the ISPF manual : IKJ56861I FILE ddname NOT FREED, DATA SET IS OPEN If the LIBRARY parameter is used with a table service, the user is not able to free the ddname for the table library pointed to

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Al Chu
Sorry 'TBOPEN and TBOPEN have RC=0.' should read 'TBOPEN and TBCLOSE have RC=0.' AL -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Al Chu Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2010 8:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISPF table library cannot

Cached TSO Clist and VLFNOTE

2010-05-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have a situation where a CLIST is being interpreted as a REXX. This is only happening on one LPAR out of 5 So on the other systems the CLIST is executed correctly - on the one it is being interpreted as a REXX. At first I thought it was due to the CLIST being on the EXEC DD. However, I

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Al Chu
Thanks Paul for the information. I was suspecting that but didn't look up the manual. :( I was trying to use various tables by realloating different table datasets to the same table DD name without changing 'supplied rexx' which contains TBOPEN/TBCLOSE. It seems not possible now. Thanks heaps

zFS, etc, and z/OS V1R11

2010-05-06 Thread Jim Marshall
Been seeing many comments about migrating from HFS to zFS and one comment had the statement of the performance boost (heard it at SHARE) coming in z/OS V1R11. Indeed this is true for where one will see it (too lengthy to explain here). Yes, there were many zFS sessions I attended at the last

Re: XMIT MANAGER

2010-05-06 Thread Field, Alan C.
Did you check the archives? There was a thread on this within the last month or two. I thinlk it concluded the install won't work however if you copy the .exe it will run. - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: Auxiliary Storage Management I/O in a RAID array world

2010-05-06 Thread Ron Hawkins
Kees, I believe that is a GDPS requirement, or perhaps specific to IBM. Excluding GDPS, with HDS it is preferable to have CFW turned on. HDS honors the intent of CFW, which is to write a Cache copy only and no NVS copy. With CFW turned on writes to SORTWK datasets use 50% less cache than DFW

UK GSE- LSWG Meeting - Postponement - 12th May 2010

2010-05-06 Thread Mark Wilson
All, Apologies to the many non UK based IBM Mainers...But I know many UK people lurk here.. Due to the fact that we have only received 12 confirmed attendees I have decided to postpone the Large Systems meeting on the 12th May 2010 at CA in Slough. I will work with the rest of the team

Re: zFS, etc, and z/OS V1R11

2010-05-06 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Jim, My understanding is that zfs's that you do not want to be sysplex aware (sysplex=on in the IOEFSPRM member) should be owned on a separate lpar that is not sysplex aware. (ie, the default in IOEFSPRM). So that is how you would keep them from being moved around. So essentially, it does

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 6 May 2010 04:28:58 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010 09:23:47 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Kayhan Tanriverir wrote: You can try tso free all command Not recommended. You may or may not be able to continue your session. Still won't work if the file is open. Of course!

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Try renaming the dataset to see who is keeping it. Won't that tell who has it ENQueued but not what has it OPEN? Yes. Thanks for pointing this out. It is very kind of you. Perhaps the ENQ could point to the real culprit, but Paul Beesley spotted a very likely reason of

Passing parameter(s) between IPCS verbexits

2010-05-06 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Any way to pass user parameters (addresses) between different IPCS verbexit routines ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: zFS, etc, and z/OS V1R11

2010-05-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 6 May 2010 07:43:33 -0500, Mary Anne Matyaz maryanne4...@gmail.com wrote: Jim, My understanding is that zfs's that you do not want to be sysplex aware (sysplex=on in the IOEFSPRM member) should be owned on a separate lpar that is not sysplex aware. (ie, the default in IOEFSPRM). So that

Re: XMIT MANAGER

2010-05-06 Thread Hal Merritt
Part of the discussion a short time ago on this topic included a suggestion to adjust the proprieties on Windows so that it will run the program in compatibility mode. There was no response if that worked or another solution was found. HTH and good luck -Original Message- From:

Re: Cached TSO Clist and VLFNOTE

2010-05-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 6 May 2010 07:08:00 -0400, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: I have a situation where a CLIST is being interpreted as a REXX. This is only happening on one LPAR out of 5 So on the other systems the CLIST is executed correctly - on the one it is being interpreted as a

Isolate lpar to resolver process

2010-05-06 Thread Jorge Garcia
Hello: We want to execute a test in a lpar without name-to-address or address-to- name resolution (no access to resolver). We want to isolate the lpar from dns access. We have done the follow steps: 1. Create a separate TCPDATA member removing all reference to dns. 2. Set RESOLVER_PROC

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Eric Bielefeld
There is a command that I think is on the CBT website called FINDQ. If you issue the FINDQ command, you type: FINDQ SYS1.L It will show you exactly what is allocated to any dataset starting with SYS1.L - linklib, lpalib etc. I hope that this command is on the CBT site. I have found it

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread George.William
Couldn't locate it on CBT. Albeit, I've only used it a few times so I'm not too familiar with it. I searched File001 for FINDQ, no hits. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:15

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Charles Mills
If you're reduced to [running experiments] I hope you share the result. Well, more important tasks are on the front burner. Honestly, the only question that really matters is the first one -- maximum length -- and I can pretty much infer the answer to that one from the limitations on FIND. As

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Scott Rowe
There is no need to find out who has a file allocated in this type of incident. If FREE says the file is open, that means a task in the address space the FREE command was entered has it opened. It is completely irrelevant what other systems/address spaces may have the dataset allocated.

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Eric Bielefeld wrote: There is a command that I think is on the CBT website called FINDQ. If you issue the FINDQ command, you type: Thanks. It is really very kind of you. I appreciate it much! I hope that this command is on the CBT site. #Groan# I went over to cbttape.org, but could not

Can SVC 99 Information Retrieval retrieve concatenations other than the first?

2010-05-06 Thread Charles Mills
Can SVC 99 Information Retrieval retrieve information about concatenations other than the first? Am I missing something? I don't see anything in the documentation that says it cannot, but OTOH I don't see a way to specify which concatenation number I am interested in. The documentation talks about

Re: Isolate lpar to resolver process

2010-05-06 Thread Mark Post
On 5/6/2010 at 11:00 AM, Jorge Garcia jgarc...@mapfre.com wrote: Is there any step omitted? Is there a /etc/resolv.conf file in your HFS? Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Isolate lpar to resolver process

2010-05-06 Thread Jorge Garcia
No Mark. We don't have any configuration in USS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: (may o r may not be on top i c) Float in g point ar i thme tic

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In snt113-w3d69b6bded95259c7678ac6...@phx.gbl, on 05/04/2010 at 10:19 PM, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com said: If, as I think we may safely assume, 'transendental' is a misspelling of 'transcendental', this observation is incorrect. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. An

Re: Calcul ate Tape B ytes to Tr acks

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201005021038340084.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 05/02/2010 at 10:38 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: But why? Does channel hardware require that both ends of the buffer be aligned? If 32759 works, why not 32767? Software. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: CA Support online?

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 009066fa266f9b428db827deaa3c0e2701983...@exchangevs-04.ad.wsu.edu, on 05/04/2010 at 10:26 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu said: Am I the only one having trouble with CA web support. No, but I've generally gotten in on the second attempt. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofcba14ef4.35cea077-on48257718.001f04be-48257718.0020c...@us.ibm.com, on 05/03/2010 at 01:58 PM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com said: May I humbly point out that I've run into way too many mainframe people which reject all user demands for Web UIs. I haven't, although I have

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4bdd7bea.5070...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/02/2010 at 03:19 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: IBM says it's 32760. No. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201005031819000391.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 05/03/2010 at 06:19 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: I'm calling that simply incompetent display-to-numeric conversion, I can call a rock an orange, but I still won't be able to get juice out of it. The problem is clearly in the

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201005031342142910.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 05/03/2010 at 01:42 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com said: Decimal Floating Point doesn't have this problem. ObClinton That depends on what this is. DFP does have that problem when dividing by, e.g., 3, 7, 11. -- Shmuel

Re: (may o r may not be on topi c) Floatin g point ar i thmetic

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktin_kwrunbcukbyiey5tsmvcjt65nibtb9spp...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/04/2010 at 06:18 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: I believe transcendental numbers are a subset of irrationals is a valid statement, but it sure *sounds* like 1970s psychobabble! And RBI doesn't? -- Shmuel

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201005021133302062.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 05/02/2010 at 11:33 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: SDB chooses 32760 for RECFM=U. I suppose this is wise, For load libraries, it's the only reasonable choice. There aren't enough other RECFM=U data sets to worry about, but

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1991037664-1272805461-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-4242174...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry, on 05/02/2010 at 01:04 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said: Remember that the maximum blksize on dasd is 27998 ... No. It's not. It's 32765. I might believe 32767 for unkeyed and

Re: (may o r may not be on topi c) Floatin g point ar i thmetic

2010-05-06 Thread zMan
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net shmuel%2bibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: And RBI doesn't? Runs Batted In? Reserve Bank of India? Repetitive Brain Injury? -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Isolate lpar to resolver process

2010-05-06 Thread Chris Mason
Jorge We want to execute a test in a lpar without name-to-address or address-to- name resolution (no access to resolver). Do you really want not to have any name to address (or address to name) conversion or do you just want to avoid using a name server? Either way, I can provide a means.

Re: Isolate lpar to resolver process

2010-05-06 Thread Patrick Lyon
snipWhen we load the lpar and we enter the nslookup command, it's works and respond with a dns (¡¡not right!!). /snip Jorge - what are you NSLOOKUPing? an internal name or an external name? If it is an internal name it may be specified in the TCPIP.HOSTS.* files. Also when you do an

Re: 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:50:58 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: They don't have to be bloated, fragile and opaque, but they all too often are[1]. By all means provide web access where it makes sense, but *DO IT RIGHT*. [1] Yes, that includes IBM web pages. FWIW, www.ibm.com is one of the few

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 6 May 2010 12:11:29 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 4bdd7bea.5070...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/02/2010 at 03:19 PM, R.S. said: IBM says it's 32760. No. Perhaps not everywhere, but in places: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2d551/2.2.16

Re: Can SVC 99 Information Retrieval retrieve concatenations other than the first?

2010-05-06 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 6 May 2010 08:54:08 -0700 Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: :Can SVC 99 Information Retrieval retrieve information about concatenations :other than the first? Am I missing something? I don't see anything in the :documentation that says it cannot, but OTOH I don't see a way to specify

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I can't leave these alone. On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:42:07 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In listserv%201005031819000391.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 05/03/2010 at 06:19 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: I'm calling that simply incompetent display-to-numeric conversion, I can call a rock an orange, but

Re: Can SVC 99 Information Retrieval retrieve concatenations other than the first?

2010-05-06 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. That's a start. My whole problem is in MVS-OE if you're subscribed to that also. Relative number is the absolute DD statement number? Given //STEP1 EXEC PGM=FOO //DD1 DD DSN=MY.DS.ONE,... // DD DSN=MY.DS.TWO,... //DD2 DD DSN=MY.DS.THREE,... // DD DSN=MY.DS.FOUR,...

Amazing article.

2010-05-06 Thread McKown, John
http://www.daniweb.com/news/story281427.html Friend of the author declared with all seriousness that every business, large and small, is now almost totally Windows based, even in the server environment. The friend actually seems to have believed it to be true. John McKown Systems Engineer IV

Re: Auxiliary Storage Management I/O in a RAID array world

2010-05-06 Thread Starr, Alan
Ron, Wow! Thanks for the big investment in time and effort! I believe that I now have a better understanding of what cache means (from MVS's perspective). It appears that cache from MVS's perspective still has some meaning because it still exists (in the ether) as a cache-within-a-cache thingy

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I guess I got findq somewhere other than the CBT site. Unfortunately, I don't have any copies of FINDQ. It worked very well. Maybe someone else will recognize the name, and contribute it to the CBT site. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer IBM MVS Technical Services Dubuque, Iowa

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Kirk Talman
going back decades it was possible to mangle the member name and do a STOW to save an old member under the mangled name using the old TTR. You just can't use those names in JCL. It would take an experiment to see if LOAD and LINK would allow them. We still have libraries with those members

Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-06 Thread Clark, Stan [GCG-PFS]
In SPF, you can accomplish the same thing by entering 'ddlist enq sys1.l'. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISPF table library cannot

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
going back decades it was possible to mangle the member name and do a STOW to save an old member under the mangled name using the old TTR. We did that with a homegrown change manglement system in the early 1980's. You just can't use those names in JCL. It would take an experiment to see if

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Talman Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS? going back decades it was possible to mangle the

Re: Problem with allocating ISPCTLXX

2010-05-06 Thread Arthur Gutowski
Hello, Alan - Are you the Alan Starr that contracted at Ford Motor Company in Europe a few years ago? If so, Egon sends his regards. He's on assignment in the States for this year. Hope you are well, and glad to see you landed on your feet, and good to see you active on IBM-MAIN...

Re: Problem with allocating ISPCTLXX

2010-05-06 Thread Arthur Gutowski
Sorry, folks, obviously that was menat for Alan alone. Please disregard my clicko. Thanks, Art Gutowski Ford Motor Company -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 6 May 2010 15:49:12 -0400 Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: :-Original Message- :From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On :Behalf Of Kirk Talman :Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:10 PM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: Member name

Re: Can SVC 99 Information Retrieval retrieve concatenations other than the first?

2010-05-06 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:23:29 -0700 Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: :Thanks. That's a start. My whole problem is in MVS-OE if you're subscribed :to that also. :Relative number is the absolute DD statement number? Given ://STEP1 EXEC PGM=FOO ://DD1 DD DSN=MY.DS.ONE,... :// DD

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-06 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-05-06 19:10, McKown, John pisze: http://www.daniweb.com/news/story281427.html Friend of the author declared with all seriousness that every business, large and small, is now almost totally Windows based, even in the server environment. The friend actually seems to have believed it

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-06 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: W dniu 2010-05-06 19:10, McKown, John pisze: http://www.daniweb.com/news/story281427.html Friend of the author declared with all seriousness that every business, large and small, is now almost totally Windows based,

Re: XMIT MANAGER

2010-05-06 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
I had this exact same problem. Adjusting the run/compatibility settings wouldn't work. The easiest thing to do is find some computer that is running a non-64 bit version of windows. Install the product and then copy the directory that was created to your 64 bit computer. It appears just the

Re: Calculate Tape Bytes to Tracks

2010-05-06 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-05-06 19:04, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Thu, 6 May 2010 12:11:29 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In4bdd7bea.5070...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/02/2010 at 03:19 PM, R.S. said: IBM says it's 32760. No. Perhaps not everywhere, but in places:

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-06 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Thu, 6 May 2010 21:30:40 +0100, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: And when talking to Unix/Windows folks, explaining (over and over) that dataset nodes are not directory paths and that PDS(E) can only be 1 level deep. As well as they way GDGs work (unless they have a VAX background).

Re: (may o r may not be on topi c) Floatin g point ar ithmetic‏

2010-05-06 Thread john gilmore
First, some terminological clarification: o BFP is IEEE-standard binary floating point; o DFP is IEEE-standard decimal floating point; and o HFP is IBM-standard hexadecimal floating point. To repeat myself now, both BFP and DFP are IEEE-standard. Next, some very basic

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 May 2010 15:10, Kirk Talman rkueb...@tsys.com wrote: going back decades it was possible to mangle the member name and do a STOW to save an old member under the mangled name using the old TTR.  You just can't use those names in JCL. JCL doesn't restrict the characters allowed in a DSNAME,

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 6 May 2010 17:14:07 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: On 6 May 2010 15:10, Kirk Talman wrote: going back decades it was possible to mangle the member name and do a STOW to save an old member under the mangled name using the old TTR.  You just can't use those names in JCL. JCL doesn't

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS? On Thu, 6 May 2010 17:14:07 -0400, Tony

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 May 2010 17:35, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010 17:14:07 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: JCL doesn't restrict the characters allowed in a DSNAME, as long as the DSNAME is quoted. But if it's quoted, it can't be catalogued. Strange rule; I wonder what motivated it?

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 6 May 2010 18:32:10 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote: JCL doesn't restrict the characters allowed in a DSNAME, as long as the DSNAME is quoted. But if it's quoted, it can't be catalogued. Strange rule; I wonder what motivated it? DOS to MVS migrations would be my guess. When I'm doing one,

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201005061219411411.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 05/06/2010 at 12:19 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: The discussion concerned apparent imprecise conversion of, e.g. 1.75 to IEE (or hex) FP. Confirming what I wrote; it's a numeric conversion issue, not a display issue. --

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In t2s4e2421a41005061330ic150eda4wca4225caff5d...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/06/2010 at 09:30 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said: And when talking to Unix/Windows folks, explaining (over and over) that dataset nodes are not directory paths You're not using CVOL's any more? -- Shmuel

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Clark Morris
On 6 May 2010 16:53:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 6 May 2010 17:35, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010 17:14:07 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: JCL doesn't restrict the characters allowed in a DSNAME, as long as the DSNAME is quoted. But if it's quoted,

Re: (may o r may not be on topi c) Floatin g point ar ithmetic?

2010-05-06 Thread Clark Morris
On 6 May 2010 14:14:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: First, some terminological clarification: o BFP is IEEE-standard binary floating point; o DFP is IEEE-standard decimal floating point; and o HFP is IBM-standard hexadecimal floating point. To repeat myself now, both

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 May 2010 19:53, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: It's been that way forever. Since before there were catalogues, I believe. I think the can't be catalogued if it's quoted just means that the comparison of the DISP=(...CATLG...) is done before the syntax check That came out

George McLaren is out of the office

2010-05-06 Thread George McLaren
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