Re: ISPF table library cannot be freed

2010-05-08 Thread Al Chu
Hi Robert Wow fantastic, Your suggestion is working! Your solution makes sense and matches with the manual statement Paul copied in this email trail earlier - 'Issuing a table service with a LIBRARY parameter containing a ddname that does not exist causes the previous library to be closed' Now

Re: JCL continuation lines limit?

2010-05-08 Thread R.S.
Paul Gilmartin pisze: Is there any limit to the number of continuation lines in a JCL statement? I'm unaware of any, and I just tried an EXEC statement where the PARM contained over 1000 continuation lines, and it executed without error. I conclude that there is no practical limit, if any limit

Re: Emptiness (was: IEBCOPY ignoring SYSIN override?)

2010-05-08 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi, In thinking about the following Post, they may be similar in our eyes but are surely not the same: What is (coded in the JCL): //SYSIN DD * /* It is similar to: //SYSIN DD DUMMY But, what does IEBCOPY think? It was always my understanding that they would not be the same as the system

Re: Emptiness (was: IEBCOPY ignoring SYSIN override?)

2010-05-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 8 May 2010 10:30:22 -0700 Charles Mills wrote: :>Ditto on the generated SYSIN DD *. Why SYSIN? Why not generate //GILMARTN DD :>* -- it's equally valid. For a language (JCL) that can be so d*mned :>persnickety at times, it seems odd to decide gratuitously that some random :>card in the jo

Re: Emptiness (was: IEBCOPY ignoring SYSIN override?)

2010-05-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
This was rejected by listserv without this line as looking like a command. //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* /* //DD DD DSN=..etc Will produce an empty GENERATED SYSIN I agree I don't like the artifact which I think really stems from the days of cards. Saves one card :) On another internal nostalgic t

Re: IBMLink and CA Support planned outages this weekend

2010-05-08 Thread Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
It's my birthday. They all took the day off! znor...@ca.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Peterson Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 Saturday 11:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBMLink and CA Support planned

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-08 Thread Frank Swarbrick
That's what I was afraid of. Sounds like there's a need for some good GDG enhancement requests! -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 On 5/8/2010 at 7:54 AM, in message <4be56d2c.80

Re: emptiness

2010-05-08 Thread john gilmore
As I hope has now been agreed, an empty data set, an empty pool, stack, or queue, an empty whatever is not per se an error. There are circumstances in which the user of a whatever may wish to treat its empty state as an error, but this is for that user, not the whatever, to decide; and as a

Re: IBMLink and CA Support planned outages this weekend

2010-05-08 Thread Brian Peterson
EMC support is *also* down today > The Service Request system will be unavailable on Saturday, May 8 from > 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. (EDT). EMC apologizes for the inconvenience. Hmmm On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:31:39 -0500, Brian Peterson wrote: >Quite a coincidence > > >Planned IBMLink O

Re: Emptiness (was: IEBCOPY ignoring SYSIN override?)

2010-05-08 Thread Charles Mills
Gil's right. I was speaking about a problem described by others not immediately witnessed by myself and I spoke too hastily. A "generated SYSIN DD *" should never produce an empty dataset; that would be a contradiction. I agree with Gil. An empty SYSIN or other input dataset is in most cases a nor

Re: Emptiness (was: IEBCOPY ignoring SYSIN override?)

2010-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 8 May 2010 16:30:39 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>How can there ever be an "empty generated SYSIN DD *"? The SYSIN DD * is >>generated only if there's a line in the JCL causing it to be generated, >hence it's nonempty. > >What is (coded in the JCL): > >//SYSIN DD * >/* > That's coded (as

Re: Emptiness (was: IEBCOPY ignoring SYSIN override?)

2010-05-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>How can there ever be an "empty generated SYSIN DD *"? The SYSIN DD * is >generated only if there's a line in the JCL causing it to be generated, hence it's nonempty. What is (coded in the JCL): //SYSIN DD * /* It is similar to: //SYSIN DD DUMMY But, what does IEBCOPY think? - Too busy dri

Emptiness (was: IEBCOPY ignoring SYSIN override?)

2010-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 8 May 2010 06:41:11 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >Small IEBCOPY complaint: it would be nice if IEBCOPY said "ddname EMPTY, >IGNORING" or something like that. Judging from the replies, a bunch of folks >have been burned by an empty generated SYSIN DD *. More clues might help. > How can ther

Re: VSAM FILE CATALOGING

2010-05-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Hello all, We currently have a z/OS V1.7 that we will be migrating to V1.11. I have 169 volumes that I want to copy to the z/OS V1.11 system and use for testing purposes. These volumes contain our Quality Assurance datasets both

Re: VVDS references dead catalog. OK?

2010-05-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Is there any plus to trying to delete all references to "dead" catalogs from the VVDS on all my volumes? Or is this another, "who cares?" (except for people with OCD). Complete wa

Re: Output from programs which normally produce reports - an idea

2010-05-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- OK, the subject sucks. But it is Friday. And this could be considered on topic, I think. I've been doing some DASD cleanup prep work. I've been using T-REX to look at catalogs and VVDSes. T-REX produces some really nice reports

Re: (may o r may not be on topi c) Floatin g point ar ithmetic?

2010-05-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- It's hardly unusual to have fractional cents in calculations, which are rounded to the nearest cent only for the final, billable number. Doubtless the most common thing - but a very common thing indeed - priced in small fractions of

Re: XMIT MANAGER

2010-05-08 Thread Scott T. Harder
Right... it was my question/OP about running XMIT Manager on Win7 (64 bit). What I did (at the instruction of another kind list member) was to set up Windows XP Mode in MS Virtual PC. I installed the 32 bit version of XMIT Manager there and it worked gr8. The version of Windows that you are runni

Re: VVDS references dead catalog. OK?

2010-05-08 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
I clean them up just to eliminate the possibility of a significant Diagnose error being lost in the clutter. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-08 Thread Joel C. Ewing
We had exactly the same issue with user-demand of production jobs where users need to stage data for the run and multiple runs with different data may need to be queued when the job can't run immediately. Standard GDG JCL support which, when you don't know how many generations exist, only

Re: IEBCOPY ignoring SYSIN override?

2010-05-08 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks all. Resolved. Stupid programmer trick. Alan hit it the closest. Short version: SYS1 was empty. Longer version: lots of complex layers of code obscured the fact that the combination of calls I was doing led to SYS1 being opened for *input* and then "written" into, resulting in an emp

Re: IBMLink and CA Support planned outages this weekend

2010-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:31:39 -0500, Brian Peterson wrote: > >On Saturday, May 08, 2010, from 08:00 until 10:30 p.m. ET (GMT-4), CA will > Strange (and slightly ambiguous) mixture of notations. I'd expect to see either: from 8:00 a.m. until 10:30 p.m. or: from 08:00 until 22:30 ... leadi

IBM optim solution

2010-05-08 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi all Is there anyone use IBM optim solution to clone & rename production datasets for UAT/DEV testing environment? includes VSAM & QSAM? Thanks for sharing -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, sen

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 5:48 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Amazing article. > > It is useful to be able to receive the "second" generation > before

Re: Migrating from z/OS V1.4 to z/OS V1.11

2010-05-08 Thread Shane Ginnane
I'm surprised it took Brian so long to respond; he's constantly berating us that such "non (IBM) sanctioned" upgrades are fine if handled sensibly. Just don't screw it up - guess whose private parts will be on the chopping block. Can't really blame customers for being spooked about N+2. Shane

GSE Enterprise Security Meeting - 30th June 2010 - UK

2010-05-08 Thread Mark Wilson
Hi, I am pleased to announce the next meeting of the GSE Enterprise Security Group on the 30th June 2010. Full details and Agenda can be found at http://www.racf.gse.org.uk/future.html If you wish to attend the meeting please send me an email and I will add you to the list. We are also launchin

Re: XMIT MANAGER

2010-05-08 Thread Brian Westerman
you don't need a 32bit OS to run Xmit Manager, just to install it with the current setup package. I'm building a new setup package for it that will handle installation under 32bit or 64bit and it should be ready as soon as I finish reading the directions for NSIS. Brian -

Re: Migrating from z/OS V1.4 to z/OS V1.11

2010-05-08 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, There is absolutely no reason to make multiple jumps, especially when you can keep the environments contained as you had originally pointed out. It's a big jump, but no matter which point you picked for your jump point, it would still be a large undertaking. The good news is that it's been d

AUTO: James Obrizok is out of the office on vacation (returning 05/10/2010)

2010-05-08 Thread James Obrizok
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