Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed

2009-09-14 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Sep 2009 18:59:04 -0700, tom_moul...@1scom.net (Tom Moulder) wrote: >I am working with a company that literally did this. They shipped a >very large disk array to the central computing center and placed it next >to the production array; synchronously copied all the data; found a >quiet p

Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment - hit too soon

2009-09-14 Thread Howard Brazee
On 14 Sep 2009 08:25:19 -0700, st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) wrote: >Marketing, probably. The current COBOL developers have been >pushing the edge of modernity constantly. Which current CoBOL developers? The compiler writers at IBM? The majority of people who develop CoBOL progra

Re: Catering for ESLs (was Re: ist663i suppression)

2009-09-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 31 Aug 2009 12:08:10 -0700, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson, Steve) wrote: >She attempted to say something for me at my level and realized that she >had used the wrong form of "to hear". Speaking of which, even in English, there seems to be significant disagreement about the correct spel

Re: $HASP050 JES2 RESOURCE SHORTAGE OF BUFX - 0% UTILIZATION REACHED

2009-09-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Sep 2009 05:13:20 -0700, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: >Did that once: In response to a "FINAL NOTICE" that my balance of $0.00 >was "PAST DUE" and that collection proceedings would commence if payment >was not received by a specified date, I sent them a check for $0.00. A >few day

Re: "file integrity verified" - do I care?

2009-09-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Sep 2009 04:50:03 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >>So since 97 doesn't seem to be useful > >What it seems to you may not be what it seems to others. It certainly >seems useful to me. So how do you use it? What do you do differently when you get a 97

Re: Sysplex Basic Question

2009-09-08 Thread Howard Brazee
I look at the way IBM prices its products such as CICS to develop a guess about which way IBM thinks its future is. What markets does it want to remain competitive with, and what markets it believes aren't worth such competition. IBM's long term strategy is very important the strategies of its c

Re: "file integrity verified" - do I care?

2009-09-04 Thread Howard Brazee
We had a vendor supplied I/O program that was used all over the place - which did not check for status '97', but when the status returned was not '0x', returned its own error status. It was used way too often to go through the costs of tests (this is before OO changed testing standards), so we liv

Re: OT - IBM Takes First Close-Up Image of Single Molecule

2009-09-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On 1 Sep 2009 14:02:07 -0700, eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com (Eric Bielefeld) wrote: >It amazes me to no end that right now I can buy a 1TB hard drive for my PC >for under $90. When we shut down the datacenter 3 years ago, we had a >Hitachi box that was about 3 feet square and 6 feet tall. It held 1TB

Re: 33 Years In IT/Security/Audit

2009-09-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On 1 Sep 2009 22:25:11 -0700, gra...@ase.com.au (Graeme Gibson) wrote: >March 1966, IBM Service Bureau, employed to operate unit record & >1401. Self-taught 1401 machine language (in the graveyard hours) in >which I wrote lots of programs and I'd never heard of Autocoder until >I'd moved on to

Re: 33 Years In IT/Security/Audit

2009-09-01 Thread Howard Brazee
On 1 Sep 2009 10:04:14 -0700, enrique.mont...@esc-gps.com (Enrique Montero) wrote: >my first PC was an Atari 800XL, with a word processor, modem, 5 1/4 >diskette, and casette. It was great to program with Basic and assembler. >I wanted to study Petroleum Engineer, but my brother bought this pc, so

Re: Enterprise Cobol 4.2

2009-08-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 26 Aug 2009 10:52:59 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: >>I have a feeling that many shops went to PL/I because it was easier than >>persuading standards people to add SSRANGE. 8^) > >As a performance & capacity analyst since 1981, I don't believe the heartache >over options such

Re: Enterprise Cobol 4.2

2009-08-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 26 Aug 2009 10:49:17 -0700, st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) wrote: >> I have a feeling that many shops went to PL/I because it was easier >> than persuading standards people to add SSRANGE. 8^) > >Howard, > >Does Endevor not let you insert PROCESS statements into >your source program

Re: Enterprise Cobol 4.2

2009-08-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 26 Aug 2009 10:48:00 -0700, frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com (Frank Swarbrick) wrote: >Is it that no one knows how to do it, or changing it is simply "not allowed"? It's that changing standards is very difficult. >(Why is a DBA in charge of Endevor?) I have no idea why he was the person who se

Re: Enterprise Cobol 4.2

2009-08-26 Thread Howard Brazee
On 26 Aug 2009 09:15:35 -0700, frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com (Frank Swarbrick) wrote: >> And, the new compiler features will be included in our >> COBOL courses by next week. > >I have to admit, I don't think I'll need any training on how to use BLOCK0. >:-) No. My difficulty will be in gett

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:42:51 -0600, howard.bra...@cusys.edu wrote: >I have been using delimited files, read in and parsed by programs. > >But then I discovered that I can save an Excel document as a .PRN >document. This is probably what you want to do. Oh, one trouble with this method is that t

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Aug 2009 08:39:00 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: >>I have data given to me in an excel spreadsheet. Is there any way that I >>can move this data from my PC and MS excel to a sequential file that I can >>edit with ISPF editor? >> >In order to process some Excel data with

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Howard Brazee
On 20 Aug 2009 06:08:10 -0700, elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za (Elardus Engelbrecht) wrote: >It is a crying shame that IEFBR14 does not follow the linkage conventions. >It is the ONLY PRODUCTION module not following the proper linkage, ie not >using that SAVE and RETURN macros. > >What about using

Re: The Death of Servers and Software

2009-08-19 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 Aug 2009 16:52:49 -0700, zosw...@gmail.com (P S) wrote: >Nicely put! Yes. The problem is in tightly defining information functions such as "server". And this is particularly a problem for us who are categorized as being "Mainframe" people. Looking for a particular technology f

Re: IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices

2009-08-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 Aug 2009 08:05:41 -0700, mp...@novell.com (Mark Post) wrote: >We're not talking about embedded operating systems, are we? There's a reason >why the name is qualified >with "embedded" after all. Such a qualification doesn't disqualify it from being an operating system. We can qualify ope

Re: IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices

2009-08-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 17 Aug 2009 14:08:29 -0700, mp...@novell.com (Mark Post) wrote: >> He also said, "Linux is not an operating system". > >He's right, it's not. Strictly speaking, Linux is the kernel (think >IEANUC01), and nothing else. >That's one of the reasons Richard Stallman thinks it should be called >

Re: Can CICS region share more than one processor

2009-08-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Aug 2009 10:00:07 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >> But it's now and into the future about share holder >> value...to coin a phrase I heard while working for Best Foods >> in Englewoodcliffs, N.J. ... from the President of the >> North American Division O' by the

Re: Mainframe Utility for EBCDIC to ASCII conversion

2009-07-30 Thread Howard Brazee
On 30 Jul 2009 06:24:40 -0700, esst...@juno.com (esst...@juno.com) wrote: >This may have been discussed before, >Is anyone aware of an IBM utility that converst an EBCDIC file to ASCII ? Any >IEB*** utilities ? Can you use FTP? ---

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jul 2009 12:36:08 -0700, deerh...@ix.netcom.com (Bob Rutledge) wrote: >Have you tried single quotes? I don't have a RedHat server to try but here's >an >example talking to a Filezilla server... I thought I did, but: 13:52:49 FTP2: cd 'Test Folder' 1

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jul 2009 08:03:21 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: >>08:28:03 FTP2: cd "Test Folder" 08:28:03 550 Failed to change >>directory. > >And here it's broken. > >Was Dennis correct in his statement that FTP2 client correctly >handles directories with blanks in their names on oth

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jul 2009 07:58:12 -0700, dennis.ro...@lmco.com (Roach, Dennis , N-GHG) wrote: >I was basing the statement that CA's ftp2 works to other systems with >blanks on - >>In desperation, do you really needs the damn blanks? > >It's a political thing. I can argue with users to who are already >u

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jul 2009 07:07:18 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: >> Try >> > >cd /ps >cd /ps/cs90ftp >cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files >cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC >cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract > >dir > >cd "Test Folder" >dir SOC9 again: 08:28:00 -Logged in - Use

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2009 13:37:58 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: >>10:06:10 ProductID: Unicenter TCPaccess Communications Server Rel 6.0.0 >>10:06:10 (C) Copyright 1987-2003 Computer Associates International, Inc. >>10:06:10 Component: Client FTP, A6007420 UFTP2 10:06:10 Enter command >

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jul 2009 04:23:47 -0700, kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com (Klein, Kenneth) wrote: > Howard, I can't believe we are seeing the entire log here of what is >going on. Where are the commands and the results of the commands that >Dennis suggested you issue? Run those commands, one at a time or script >them

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
The Sun boxes which concern these FTPs all have Red Hat Linux. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http:/

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2009 11:34:10 -0700, dennis.ro...@lmco.com (Dennis Roach) wrote: >Not actually. What we are wanting to see is the directory up level. Try > >cd /ps >cd /ps/cs90ftp >cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files >cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC >cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract >dir > > >

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2009 09:03:31 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >Is this somebody else doing this? If it is you, how do you not know what your >client is? What platform is this coming in off of? z/OS, z/VM, Linux, AIX, >HPUX, Windows, BSD? > >If nothing else, can you post a comple

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2009 09:31:13 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >> It's a batch job run from JCL, using production procs. > >OK, so your client is the z/OS ftp client. I assume (ouch!) that you're >running PGM=FTP. OOPS - looked at your original message and you're running ftp >in

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2009 09:02:21 -0700, kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com (Klein, Kenneth) wrote: >Can you telnet to that address and see what kind of welcome page you >see? For some reason, my SSH keeps asking me for the password over and over again. I went to someone else's desk who seems to be set up identical

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2009 08:55:17 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >Is this an interactive session (you're typing in the commands), or a "batch" >session (some sort of script)? It's a batch job run from JCL, using production procs. >How about trying something like: > >cd /ps/cs90ft

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2009 08:18:54 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >Shortened example: > > EZA1460I Command: >cd "/home1000/tsh009/a b" > EZA1701I >>> CWD /home1000/tsh009/a b > 250 HFS directory /home1000/tsh009/a b is the current working directory > EZA1460I Command: The following i

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2009 08:16:12 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: >>How do I handle the Unix spaces in the directory name? >> >This is entirely client-dependent. What's your client? I don't know. -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2009 07:56:55 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >> How do I handle the Unix spaces in the directory name? > >You likely need to "escape" the spaces with a reverse solidus (backslash to >the "unwashed masses" ). > >cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract/Files\ f

FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Howard Brazee
I'm trying to do a FTP with the following: cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract/Files for Production put 'UMSDEV.QA06.CCITFULL.D090714' citizen_D090714.dat I try putting single and double spaces around the destination directory, but the IKJEFT01 gives me a SYSTEM COMPLE

Re: Bulletproof (was Re: Mainframe hacking (getting back on topic))

2009-07-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Jul 2009 10:30:14 -0700, hmerr...@jackhenry.com (Hal Merritt) wrote: >Well, does a hurricane count? Really, the solution isn't to hurricane-proof, tornado-proof, flood-proof, fire-proof, bomb-proof, airplane-proof a data center. That money would be better spent in creating a backup data c

Re: Post not in Archive but in Google Groups

2009-07-21 Thread Howard Brazee
nice thing about this solution, is we don't send out messages of the nature of Howard Brazee is out of the office, please contact... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@ba

Re: Mainframe hacking

2009-07-20 Thread Howard Brazee
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:19:35 -0400, Neal Eckhardt wrote: >>with "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress", >>of course. > > I missed that book. I assume it is an old one too? Nah, I just read it in "Worlds of If:, the other day.. decade - 1965-1956. No way I would consider that old.

Re: Post not in Archive but in Google Groups

2009-07-20 Thread Howard Brazee
On 20 Jul 2009 04:55:51 -0700, mcknight-...@excite.com (Bruce McKnight) wrote: >Ok... Now, how do I get the listserv to show a preview of the like Google >groups? I'd find a newsreader you like that's powerful enough to let you tell it to reply to the e-mail address for this newsgroup.

Re: Post not in Archive but in Google Groups

2009-07-20 Thread Howard Brazee
On 19 Jul 2009 09:27:30 -0700, ric...@panix.com (Rich Greenberg) wrote: >1) Subscribe to the mailing list. >2) Set yourself to NOMAIL on the listserv. >3) When responding to a usenet post, DON'T use Followup. Instead use > Reply and make sure that the email address gets set to: > "To: IBM-MAI

Re: Complexity (was Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?)

2009-07-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2009 11:39:56 -0700, bshan...@rocketsoftware.com (Bob Shannon) wrote: >Well, what I know is that when companies built their own applications, they >talked about >gaining a competitive advantage. When's the last time anyone heard that? >When companies built their own applications, they

Re: Complexity (was Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?)

2009-07-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2009 14:00:07 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick O'Keefe) wrote: >That is probably the inevitable future, but the time frame is not at all >clear, and the ecomonic break-even line between "do it in-house" and >"buy it" changes over time. When you pass development and >maintenance

Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-10 Thread Howard Brazee
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Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-09 Thread Howard Brazee
On 9 Jul 2009 06:11:46 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >I had another reply to this, but it was a bit of a rant. So, I'll tone it >down. >How are people supposed to learn "don't do that" if we make it so that nothing >that they do can cause them any harm? We don't give

Microsoft claims mainframes anti-competitive

2009-06-26 Thread Howard Brazee
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Re: IF-Statement in JCL

2009-06-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 Jun 2009 06:43:48 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >> One thing I have used in my previous job is a program that accepts a >> parm, and passes it out as a return code. >> >> Then the JCL can do whatever it wants with that condition code. > >One "problem" with such, at

Re: REXX exec: 'only' - was = RE: JCT Not Available

2009-06-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 Jun 2009 06:14:31 -0700, erik.jans...@ing.nl (Erik Janssen) wrote: >>Now if it could only eliminate the >> >>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 21 Line(s) not Sometimes I cut and paste that in, when I want to print a copy of SDSF output that I want to exclude most output

Re: IF-Statement in JCL

2009-06-25 Thread Howard Brazee
One thing I have used in my previous job is a program that accepts a parm, and passes it out as a return code. Then the JCL can do whatever it wants with that condition code. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access i

Re: Avoiding Java (Was: And you ask why I hate OMVS?)

2009-06-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Jun 2009 11:01:29 -0700, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Edward Jaffe) wrote: >But, then you would not know the "joys" of using the "write once; debug >everywhere" language! ;-) Modern languages are like TVs. We don't maintain their code, we replace it.

Re: How big of a staff do you have on your mainframe?

2009-06-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 Jun 2009 09:24:39 -0700, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: >> There are more than a few vendors you can pay to do this analysis for >> you and come up with the same meaningless results you can get on >> IBM-MAIN. > >But if the "paid advice" is worth the same as the "free advice", why >pa

Re: Where should processing be done was Re: IBM Software Secure Support via USA Citizens

2009-06-22 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Jun 2009 15:05:18 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: >Maybe not yet, but there is a bill in front of Federal parliament that, if >passed, won't even require a warrant to get the information to CSIS). We'll be as safe and secure and free the other states that have state control

Re: Mainframe Express Software

2009-06-22 Thread Howard Brazee
On 19 Jun 2009 13:04:02 -0700, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: >We don't "pirate" software here. Funny how "pirate" is romantic - not counting what goes on in the Indian ocean, nor what happened in real life in the past. Real pirates are and were worse than real thieves. Software thieves

Re: IBM Software Secure Support via USA Citizens

2009-06-19 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 Jun 2009 10:43:47 -0700, rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) wrote: >Like I keep saying: there's a fine line between security and paranoia; >which side are we on? I don't think the line is fine at all. It is vague and nebulous. There's a fine line between standing next to a lake, and fis

Re: IBM Software Secure Support via USA Citizens

2009-06-19 Thread Howard Brazee
On 17 Jun 2009 12:35:48 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick O'Keefe) wrote: >If those are the US Government's rules then IBM would be foolish >not to set up such accounts, but the concept behind the rule >makes no sense. It would make more sense (but would be >impossible to implement) a rule

Re: Where should processing be done was Re: IBM Software Secure Support via USA Citizens

2009-06-17 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Jun 2009 18:41:32 -0700, rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) wrote: >There's a very fine line between security and paranoia; when do we >decide that it's been crossed? The enemy's definition is when we do what they want. (bin Laden had a hope that we would attack Saudi Arabia, but was delig

Re: IBM Software Secure Support via USA Citizens

2009-06-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Jun 2009 12:39:44 -0700, hmerr...@jackhenry.com (Hal Merritt) wrote: >And we all know that there aren't enough qualified people, which is why the >jobs went overseas in the first place, right? ;-) By "qualified", we mean "cheap". Being able to do the job is way down on the list of attri

Re: IBM Software Secure Support via USA Citizens

2009-06-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Jun 2009 07:06:29 -0700, ken.porow...@cit.com (Ken Porowski) wrote: >Who ever thought that software support by US Citizens would be a selling >point? George Orwell? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access inst

Re: Language Environment runtime options and system dumps

2009-06-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 Jun 2009 12:43:43 -0700, wmkl...@ix.netcom.com (Bill Klein) wrote: >For COBOL only applications, for example, using SSRANGE (compile and >run-time) often finds the cause of S0C4 ABENDs and does so in a manner that >the application programmer can find the cause quickly and easily. Of >cours

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-06-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:22:25 -0400, Peter Flass wrote: >> I've seen all of that - with cards with different cuts in the same >> deck, to make them easy to locate. > >We used to just run a felt-tip pen across the top. You could >distinguish four colors of cards pretty easily. But it is easy to

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-06-01 Thread Howard Brazee
On 01 Jun 09 08:19:23 -0800, "Charlie Gibbs" wrote: >Another method used by some shops to distinguish special cards was >by giving them a different corner cut, e.g. top right vs. the usual >top left. I've even seen cards with no corner cut at all, although >this was rare. > >A slightly more subt

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 May 2009 12:30:59 -0700, d...@lists.duda.com (David Andrews) wrote: >On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 15:14 -0400, Howard Brazee wrote: >> The temp file doesn't need a name? > >That's exactly correct! Example: > >//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 >//SENDER DD UNIT=SYSDA,S

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 May 2009 10:54:49 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: >>Trouble is - those procs usually run in their own jobs. > >I don't understand what you're trying to say. >What is the problem with PROCs running in their own jobs? >Not assigning &&names to a DD shouldn't be an issue in th

Re: Java V5 s0c4

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 May 2009 12:11:33 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: >We "Mac's" get it all the time. >"Mc" is more common. >Also, lots of people don't capitalise the "N". Not to mention software. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / s

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 May 2009 08:24:20 -0700, d...@lists.duda.com (David Andrews) wrote: >Use referbacks in your receiving steps (DSN=*.stepname.ddname) instead >of temporary dataset names (DSN=&&name). They're a bit awkward, but >eliminate the duplicate dataset name issue. Quoting the JCL Reference: >"To ensu

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
I mentioned this case to a co-worker and she had a problem which was harder to figure out. Some user wrote some jobs which had EasyTrieves followed by copying the temporary file to tape. The process didn't make much sense, and was without error checking. But the odd thing was, when he ran sever

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 May 2009 08:21:54 -0700, z...@cdc.gov (Burrell, C. Todd , CDC/OCOO/ITSO, CTR) wrote: >I would think that running these same procs over and over in the same >job would make the &&finders file pretty useless? I would think you >would want a second step to process the &&finders file, and the

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-28 Thread Howard Brazee
Back when programmers would run the deck through the syntax checker one night, read the printed output the next day, and then if everything was OK, run the deck through the compiler the next day - the cost of paper and the cost of labor and the cost of not having results were relatively cheap compa

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-28 Thread Howard Brazee
I still sequence my CoBOL (on the left), but I haven't seen a card sorter in a while, and wouldn't know how to load my virtual deck anyway. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@

Duplicate temp file

2009-05-28 Thread Howard Brazee
We have a bunch of extract jobs that each run their own procs. I created a new JCL that called several procs in succession. Each proc starts off sorting a finder file, creating a temporary file: //QA04#01EXEC PGM=SORT CLEAN UP FILES //PERSONSDD DSN=&SYSTE

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 May 2009 18:23:38 -0700, joa...@swbell.net (John McKown) wrote: >I agree, except for truly "direct access" data sets. What I have fought >with here is the mindset of "I must allocate in CYLINDERS in order to be >efficient." I want them to allocate in RECORDS (or millions of records). >But

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 May 2009 12:32:09 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: >You seem to be agreeing with Steve Thompson that "In the MVS world, we >are not device dependant," only insofar as there is only one type of >device. A weak assertion indeed. Would you be willing to go so far >as to sid

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-20 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 May 2009 12:41:15 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: >I don't think it's a lie. >Historically, ZERO has always had a special meaning. >In COBOL's case, it just means that the programme is not going to determine >the blocksize, but leaves a place-holder for it when it's decided e

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 May 2009 11:30:02 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: >>The whole idea of (IBM mainframe) CoBOL still caring about blocksize is >>irritating. >>The "fix" of making BLOCK CONTAINS 0 is IMHO, not the way fixes should be. > >I really don't think this qualifies as a 'fix'. >I learned

Re: IBM Mainframe: 50 Years of Big Iron Innovation

2009-05-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 May 2009 09:06:04 -0700, howard.bra...@cusys.edu (Howard Brazee) wrote: >My age only matters of one thing - if I wanted to retire today, I'd >get my pension. Well, "wanting to retire" isn't sufficient

Re: IBM Mainframe: 50 Years of Big Iron Innovation

2009-05-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 May 2009 01:43:09 -0700, robert.richa...@opm.gov (Richards, Robert B.) wrote: >You're kidding, right Pat? We count almost as much as accountants and >statisticians! > >After last year's three heart attacks, I am very glad the counting >continues! 58 rules! My age only matters of one thing -

Re: IBM Mainframe: 50 Years of Big Iron Innovation

2009-05-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 May 2009 14:10:20 -0700, kjar...@ca.ibm.com (Kelly Arrey) wrote: >Actually, I've found it helps my morale to track my age in hexadecimal... >only 35 :-) That only works for people who think Christmas is Halloween. -- For

Re: BLOCK CONTAINS

2009-05-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 May 2009 18:08:22 -0700, cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) wrote: >I checked the reference you gave and for QSAM files, if the BLOCK >CONTAINS clause is omitted, BLOCK 1 RECORD is assumed. This stupidity >has aggravated me for years. The whole idea of (IBM mainframe) CoBOL still car

Mainframe articles

2009-05-11 Thread Howard Brazee
A nice slide show on the history of IBM mainframes: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/The-IBM-Mainframe-50-Years-of -Big-Iron-Innovation-583073/?kc=EWKNLEDP05112009A http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/50-Years-of-IBM-Mainframe-Mil estones-136541/?kc=EWKNLEDP05112009C

Re: ISPF Question

2009-04-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Apr 2009 03:24:34 -0700, robert.richa...@opm.gov (Richards, Robert B.) wrote: >Who remembers option numbers? I have used command table entries for >years and invoke dialogs by their name or a logical abbreviation of >same. Want RACF? Type RACF. Want ISMF? Type ISMF. 3.4 is DSL (DSLIST), >SDS

Re: Effective pipeline programming [was:RE: METAL C: CodeGen defeciency?]

2009-04-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 Apr 2009 13:35:12 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: >I find the weak programmers are the ones to use strange (and often >misunderstood) tricks, or as we used to call it 'spaghetti code'. > >Writing hard to maintain code is produced by poor programmers, not strong ones. I once

Re: What (More) Open Source Software for z/OS?

2009-04-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 22 Apr 2009 22:39:18 -0700, timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) wrote: >I appreciate the responses, but please (also) post them to the comment >thread at The Mainframe Blog: > >http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2009/04/what-more-open-source-software-do-you-want-for-zos.html If you lik

Re: What (More) Open Source Software for z/OS?

2009-04-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 22 Apr 2009 11:29:57 -0700, joa...@swbell.net (John McKown) wrote: >This is the case where "n" smaller servers are "better" than the mainframe. >Most, if not all, z shops upgrade their processors due to the increase in >their application workload. That is, they are running the same software, bu

Re: What (More) Open Source Software for z/OS?

2009-04-22 Thread Howard Brazee
On 22 Apr 2009 10:01:45 -0700, tz...@attglobal.net (Tony Harminc) wrote: >Well, Tim's original post was about "What (More) Open Source Software >Do You Want for z/OS?". I can speak only for myself, but when I think >of open source software, I don't mean what IBM has mostly done with >things like t

Re: Lisp (was: insane thought - SMF reformatter?)

2009-04-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 20 Apr 2009 12:47:08 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick O'Keefe) wrote: >I haven't thought about Lisp for about 40 years. >Just out of curiosity, is it actually used outside of academia? >Is it used at all outside of AI work? As I told the job interviewer: Yes, I know CoBOL, JCL, & Java,

Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 Apr 2009 14:17:53 -0700, w...@rubin-software.de (Wolfgang Schäfer) wrote: >Hello Howard, >your answers are below the quote (at least in this case) ... and yes, I had >to scroll down to read your answer. I only quoted a tiny bit (most everybody agrees that some quoting is good). When I re

Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 Apr 2009 12:32:05 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick O'Keefe) wrote: >Ah. Curmudgeon bait. And bait I cannot resist! > >Someone that wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot on his >message should expect to have it go unseen. (By "it" I mean >graphics, but I'm not far from meaning th

Re: "New TOD

2009-04-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 Apr 2009 06:41:10 -0700, john_w_gilm...@msn.com (john gilmore) wrote: >. . . The Gregorian Calendar did not start sometime from 1582 (for the Roman >Church) to 1752 (the UK and the US [American Colonies at that point]) through >1926 (Turkey) so you have to state what country you are talkin

Re: Banks rethinking core systems replacement

2009-04-09 Thread Howard Brazee
On 8 Apr 2009 09:47:43 -0700, thomas.kel...@commercebank.com (Kelman, Tom) wrote: >According to this article some banks who were thinking about replacing >their legacy core systems are now looking at upgrading them instead >because of the economic turn down. Is the turn down a mixed blessing >for

Re: Happy 45th Birthday

2009-04-08 Thread Howard Brazee
On 7 Apr 2009 12:24:29 -0700, reg.harb...@ca.com (Harbeck, Reg) wrote: >I just wanted to take a moment to wish the IBM mainframe a Happy 45th >Birthday (see >http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PR360.htm >l)! It seems to be saying that the System/360 was the first main

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-07 Thread Howard Brazee
On 7 Apr 2009 10:34:43 -0700, et...@tulsagrammer.com (Eric Chevalier) wrote: > >ps: "role", not "roll" I suppose Unix could be rolling. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@ba

Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs

2009-04-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Apr 2009 05:59:30 -0700, tad...@cvps.com (Adams, Tracy) wrote: >You are surprised that foreign people would write software that >recommends to employee foreign people? I'm not surprised that people would write software that recommends employing foreign people. --

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-02 Thread Howard Brazee
If I retired right now, I would be able to work part time until our mainframe was gone, and then I would be out of a job. So I am training in our new system, expecting that when the mainframe goes away, I can continue working full time. I don't know enough to have any idea whether I could ret

Re: FW: SYSOUT dynamic allocation in COBOL

2009-03-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Mar 2009 12:06:42 -0700, wmkl...@ix.netcom.com (Bill Klein) wrote: >I may be missing something, but if you know at compile-time (when you can >set an environment variable) that you want the "output" to go to SYSOUT, why >are you using "files" (with OPEN, WRITE, etc) and not just doing a DISP

Re: Splitting files into a variable number of cataloged files

2009-03-16 Thread Howard Brazee
I tested this solution and passed it to other programmers. I changed it as follows: OUTDSN,'UMSDEV.QA04.CPRSFULL.OUT' * SET OUTPARMS TO THE UNIT, SPACE AND DISP PARAMETERS YOU * WANT FOR EACH OUTPUT DATA SET. OUTPARM1,'UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=DBS504

Re: Splitting files into a variable number of cataloged files

2009-03-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:00:19 -0600, howard.bra...@cusys.edu wrote: >I'm looking at this now. A nice improvement would be to use the >record count in the SPACE parameter, but that would require knowing >the record length. I guess I will just have to have each user create >his own SPACE paramete

Re: Splitting files into a variable number of cataloged files

2009-03-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 Mar 2009 11:24:00 -0700, yae...@us.ibm.com (Frank Yaeger) wrote: >Howard Brazee wrote on 03/13/2009 10:58:43 AM: >> Or DFSORT. But my problem is I don't know how to create a variable >> number of cataloged output files. > >Howard, > >I have a DFSORT/ICETOO

Re: Time Change (Sync)

2009-03-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Mar 2009 23:25:29 -0700, hal9...@panix.com (Robert A. Rosenberg) wrote: >Why is your CPU clock not set to GMT/UT? That would insure that there >is no need to reset the clock - Just update the local time offset >twice a year. So long as time stamps are in GMT, the DST/ST switches >should n

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