Re: Write binary from REXX CGI program

2010-02-02 Thread P S
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:20 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote: True. More portable to what other environment? Just curious. Windows, Linux...anywhere that Rexx runs. I have many Rexx programs that run on multiple platforms; the only environment-sensitive pieces are (of

Re: Write binary from REXX CGI program

2010-02-02 Thread P S
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:42 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote: Is there a REXX for Linux, other than ooREXX? I've never used those functions in ooREXX on Linux. But I'm not very knowledge about ooREXX, either. I use Perl on Linux. I avoid Windows like the plague ridden corpse

Re: Write binary from REXX CGI program

2010-02-02 Thread P S
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: SOME TEXT A vs. SOME.PDS(TEXT) (or whatever). ^^ Errr... Can you supply a code example that uses that form as an argument to STREAM or CHAROUT? Assuming you meant my PDS reference, no,

Re: z/OS 1.10 NFS server; Solaris 10 client; Classic Data Sets

2010-02-01 Thread P S
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: (Would this be better on MVS-OE?) This is utterly weird! On Solaris 10, I do mvslogin, then cd to a PDS, then do wc * (count lines, words, and characters in all the members). I see: 135$ ( cd /my/mvs/PDS amp; wc *

Re: DO NOT CLICK ON LINK FROM JOSEPH POON

2010-01-29 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.comwrote: What's wrong with the name Poon? From Wikepedia: Joseph Poon is William Barton Rogers Professor of Physics at the University of Virginia. He is famous for cross-disciplinary research applying physics principles

Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]

2010-01-29 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: Kinda unreadable. What is it that I have to do to read these? Decode it (it's MIMEd). If you got it as a single posting, then your mailer or LISTSERV is broken. If it was in a Digest, then the problem is

Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]

2010-01-29 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: I'm stuck with Outlook here at the office. I never see this at home using Thunderbird and Linux. Hm. By mailer I meant mailer, not mail client. I'd assume any current mail client could read it. Since you

Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]

2010-01-29 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: Exchange. Oh, and you're at Sterling Commerce -- I bet some horrible gateway broke it (nothing against SterComm, just that big companies tend to have such things). Look at the message headers, see what MIME

Re: Enormous redbook

2010-01-27 Thread P S
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: I think they changed to FrameMaker for doing our manuals. Now when you try to do cut/copy/paste operations, you pick up stuff that you didn't expect. You can't select certain things without other items

Re: Conflicting PCI Requirements - TLS FTP

2010-01-27 Thread P S
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: We are stuck. There is a PCI requirement to NAT all access, but that's not possible when TLS/FTP is used. Right. You really can't use FTP and be PCI-compliant, is my understanding. What's the actual problem you're

Re: Enormous redbook

2010-01-26 Thread P S
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: In my opinion, FrameMaker causes problems for cut and paste. At least it does in manuals that I have to review. Are you sure it's Frame? I think it's just PDF.

Re: Software version information on the web RANT

2010-01-25 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: There is no good reason to have wrong or obsolete information.  But I can think of one good reason to not have the release information and OS compatibility information on your web site.    That type of information

Re: Write binary from REXX CGI program

2010-01-25 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: How can I write binary  from a REXX CGI program to the SYSTSPRT (i.e. in a HTML site I'm sending PDF or AFP from the SPOOL to a browser) How are you writing non-binary data? What interface?

Re: Write binary from REXX CGI program

2010-01-25 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: I write now via Say. As I set the HTML  content-encoding to binary , the transer is o.k. so the PDF binary transsfered, but as I'm using the Say to write the HTML I got extra  newlines . I would like

Re: Enormous redbook

2010-01-25 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: Steve, 38MB is enormous? What kind of internet backwater are you in?  :-) That's enormous for a RedBook, and Boulder is often pretty slow. I have nominal 30Mbit, often see 20Mbit from fast sites, and Boulder is at least an

Re: DNS, IP, Internet and EKM (Tape Encryption)

2010-01-24 Thread P S
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:40 AM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't know EKM.  However, in general, you should be able to hardcode the IP address in your configuration file or, better, in local host tables. Although hardcoding sounds less flexible, it has to be done somewhere - either

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2010-01-23 Thread P S
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: You're not the only one to interpret it as non-trivial. No longer confused. Yeah, my bad. Stupid language! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Receive e-mails on z/OS

2010-01-22 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote: as far as I understand, our Lotus Domiono will continue to be responsible to receive, filter, antispam the incoming e-mail addressed to us. According to some rules, only a tiny part of the inbound e-mails will

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2010-01-22 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Lorne Dudley dudl...@queensu.ca wrote: Can we have richard...@yahoo.com removed from the list.  We don't need the Viagra commercials on this list. Careful, he may be a legit member whose machine has been compromised, or just whose address was faked. Faking an

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2010-01-22 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:14 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Faking an email address is fairly simple. Well, at least if the receiver doesn't look too deeply at the headers. I even know how to do it with sendmail. I believe I said that, Captain. -- Mr. Spock Don't need

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2010-01-22 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Ah! I intepreted beyond trivial as not trivial as the direction of travel was not specified. My bad. Ah indeed...you're right, of course, it was ambiguous. Not to ME, but to anyone else!

Re: GSE IBM System z Technical Conference

2010-01-22 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@ssf.sas.com wrote: I don't know.  That was one of the pages that I looked at, but I don't recognize the name Technical University.  The one I went to was the System z Technical Conference.  Could it be that the name has changed?

Re: The Naked Mainframe (Forbes Security Article)

2010-01-21 Thread P S
Tony Harminc wrote: IBM had a poster they distributed in the 1990s saying VM soars with 20,000 licences. So at least at one point they provided a bottom limit. One imagines the number is much lower today, and was never that high for MVS. And they admitted at one point that the 20K included

Re: Skills boom fueled by soaring growth of mainframe

2010-01-18 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: I am probably blind (and the find function is, too), but where on that page does IBM talk about z/OS? It *does* talk about Linux, though. And the 'mainframe' these days isn't just z/OS anymore. Right -- where does the *post*

Re: Source code for s/360

2010-01-18 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@ssf.sas.com wrote: That's right!  There is no SIO on z/VM.  I ran into that a year or so ago.   Ahh, it's good enough for me just to peruse the source. Though CP SET 370ACCOM ON might help with that. But the BCMODE PSW is probably

Re: Source code for s/360

2010-01-18 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@ssf.sas.com wrote: i can do that on vm?  create my own instruction? Sure, you have source code...is it trivial? Not for something like this, no. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Source code for s/360

2010-01-18 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:14 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Well, sort of. Many priviliged instructions are dispatched via SIE. You can't affect those. If you have find an unimplimented priviliged instruction which is not trapped by SIE (hum is this possible?), then you

Re: PCI and Auditors perceptions thereof

2010-01-13 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: Trying to do some due diligence in planning some data transfers and getting really confused. Many seem to be saying that all FTP traffic has to be encrypted to meet PCI standards. And yet I cannot find any such

Re: Anybody use a Wiki for internal information?

2010-01-12 Thread P S
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:26 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I have a real gut desire to organize our internal Tech Services into a Wiki. Something that is easily searchable with keywords. I'm having a real problem with inertia and too much bother from others in my

Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-11 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Jack, According to the web site you referenced they can ask for ID, but for VISA and MasterCard they cannot refuse to complete the transaction if you do not comply. I'm tempted to test this the next time I'm

Re: useless message at IPL

2010-01-05 Thread P S
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:51 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I made some changes to by UNIX BPXPRMnn members to test going to a sysplex root. I IPL'ed the system. There were problems. But the message from z/OS is useless. It tells me to refer to the HARDCOPY LOG. Like

Re: Why is JCL so bad was Re: Basic question on passing JCL set symbol to proc

2010-01-05 Thread P S
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:25 PM, jack.hamil...@kp.org wrote: According to http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.asp, Mussolini did *not* make the trains run on time. Interesting how those catch phrases become part of common knowledge, true or not. Tsk. You misunderstand the nature of

Re: PCI and Auditors perceptions thereof

2010-01-05 Thread P S
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Donald Russell russell@gmail.comwrote: Is USS the same thing as OMVS? We have multiple MVS systems but I only have USS (OMVS) access on one of them. I'm told USS is not available on the others. Maybe there's some terminology issues... Indeed. If you're

Re: Why is JCL so bad was Re: Basic question on passing JCL set symbol to proc

2010-01-04 Thread P S
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.cawrote: The trains were available. ...and Mussolini made them run on time! (OK, I'm guessing that isn't the first time that joke has been made...) -- For

Re: Why is JCL so bad was Re: Basic question on passing JCL set symbol to proc

2010-01-03 Thread P S
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.cawrote: snip It is for this reason that I am not optimistic about the long term viability of the z series and z/OS. Well, zSeries is dead, so it has no long-term viability. Yes, I'm being pedantic about the terminology --

Re: CAPS Fantasia (was: argv for z/OS C++ batch)

2010-01-02 Thread P S
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Ask a Spanish speaker whether año is the same as ano. No, they're different letters. It may be clear from context, but the two are no more the same than awe and ave in English. A better question might be to ask a French

Re: CAPS Fantasia (was: argv for z/OS C++ batch)

2010-01-02 Thread P S
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: I'm trying this again, with a different technique: Da, document in Cyrillic came through that time, rather than as whatever. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: CAPS Fantasia (was: argv for z/OS C++ batch)

2010-01-01 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: I said earlier in the thread: Wow, I never saw this post...weird. However, when I mount a Samba share from a UNIX host and some directory there contains foobar, FooBar, foo,bar, etc., Explorer should display those

Re: CAPS Fantasia (was: argv for z/OS C++ batch)

2009-12-31 Thread P S
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: UNIX has done well without pervasive case munging. You misspelled despite as without :-( I often wonder how many millions of man-hours and real dollars have been lost due to case-sensitivity in *IX. I've repeatedly

Re: CAPS Fantasia (was: argv for z/OS C++ batch)

2009-12-31 Thread P S
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:08 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Hum, I have exactly the opposite opinion. I dislike Windows' case preserving but case ignoring feature. I think that Mac OSX is like Windows in this as well (and it is UNIX based). If it is going to ignore

Re: CAPS Fantasia (was: argv for z/OS C++ batch)

2009-12-31 Thread P S
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: OK, *not* trying to start a war, honestly curious: why do you dislike it? Ease in sorting and searching. If I were implementing such a filesystem, I'd store the names in a single case followed by a bitmap indicating

Re: CAPS Fantasia (was: argv for z/OS C++ batch)

2009-12-31 Thread P S
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Most LINUX applications also display the filenames with a case insensitive sort. Like the ls command. And Konquerer, Dolphin. Good. I was starting to feel funny, holding up Windows as a shining example...!

Re: CAPS Fantasia (was: argv for z/OS C++ batch)

2009-12-31 Thread P S
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:28 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: You're right it is not really insensitive. The lower case appears before the upper case of a given character. I.e. apple is before Apple. My bad terminology. I guess the order is aAbBcCdD and so on. While

Re: CAPS Fantasia (was: argv for z/OS C++ batch)

2009-12-31 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: Which is why I suggested keeping all alphabetic characters in a single case, followed by a bitmap identifying the case of the characters. Case-insensitive lookup would ignore the bitmap; case sensitive would consider

Re: IBM 9393 RVAs Obsolete for Sure

2009-12-30 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:50 PM, David Purdy dpurd...@aol.com wrote: The same folks approved one 3350, when they came only in pairs, if long-term memory serves. (Okay, the request could have been more precise) Right, should have requested one 6700 instead... :-)

Re: Hummingbird screen snapshots

2009-12-28 Thread P S
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM, John Kelly john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.govwrote: You really have to know what bad is to make a comparison. I use to think Extra was bad but they this account went to Secure Agent's 3270 emulator. It REALLY is the bottom of the dung heap! I'm sure you're right.

Re: Hummingbird screen snapshots

2009-12-23 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: Users repeatedly send me Hummingbird screen snapshots as JPEGs, claiming it's all they can do. Is there no way to capture a Humminbird screen as text? I'm lazy; I want to be able to copy-and-paste, or search for

Re: Movin' on Up!

2009-12-23 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: Cool. How's the noise level there? He'll probably get IBM-MAIN there, same as where he used to be. +1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Hummingbird screen snapshots

2009-12-23 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: I'm not aware of any emulator that does screen capture as text. If you want text, have them Select All, then Cut and Paste into a word or text document. I think the problem is that at least one emulator (and I think

Re: Solved: Re: Hummingbird screen snapshots

2009-12-23 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: OK. My user, somewhat by accident, clicked on Paste without Formatting simultaneously with the suggestion in this thread, and it worked. So the Windows clipboard has parallel universes, JPEG and text. And she said

Re: Solved: Re: Hummingbird screen snapshots

2009-12-23 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:34:08 -0500, P S wrote: Yes, the Windows clipboard has multiple layers--that's why you can paste HTML into Word and get formatted text, or into KEDIT and get just text. I think of it like

Re: CA mainframe install software

2009-12-22 Thread P S
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Don't you mean CA Aggravator ??? :-) montypython Wait, haven't we done this? Oh, yes, sorry. /montypython -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: CA mainframe install software

2009-12-21 Thread P S
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com wrote: By the people who published the user manual for it. Was there some part of the question I responded to that was unclear? Did your system strip the question off? (It showed up in my copy of the message so I

Re: 360 programs on a z/10

2009-12-17 Thread P S
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Blaicher, Chris chris_blaic...@bmc.comwrote: I have not done much testing, but I have an old (1972?) program that still works. Original object code. Way cool! Timestamp intact in the object deck? Or is it a load module? (NOT challenging it, just wondering!)

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com wrote: Wow. I don't recognize your name, but I went through exactly the same experience with the woefully inexperienced staff from AA. They burned $35M of the company's money before being booted out the door. Yet, they were

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-01 Thread P S
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Gee, I didn't finish High School. Better slit my throat now... And I dropped out of college, twice, never finished. What's your point? Sensitive much? Sheesh.

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-11-30 Thread P S
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.eduwrote: Periodically, the business model needs to be re-analyzed, and the IS model should be changed to better fit the changed business model. The core of the new system, as the core of the old system, should be the data

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-11-30 Thread P S
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.eduwrote: People don't need college to learn Java. Java's available for free, it handles the kind of applications an amateur knows likes to play with, and it is easy to find help on the Web. People don't need college to

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-11-30 Thread P S
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: Hardly nonsense. On Win or Mac, when Firefox tells me it needs an update, I click on Update. A few minutes later, it tells me to restart Firefox to activate the update. I click Restart Firefox to warmstart. Two

Re: relating module prefixes to components and products

2009-11-28 Thread P S
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: There was the well-publicized collision between JCLCHECK and FileManager both starting with CAZ. I never heard the resolution. Apparently JCLCHECK had never been officially registrated with IBM. Registrated?? Ouch.

Re: Mainframe running 1,500 Linux servers?

2009-11-22 Thread P S
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net shmuel%2bibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: That difference is simply a configuration item done to enforce the TC; the actual engines are still the same. That and the speed difference are for marketing reasons, not

Re: Mainframe running 1,500 Linux servers?

2009-11-22 Thread P S
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, P S zosw...@gmail.com wrote: As for CBE, IBM was talking up Haplon and CBE on z a while ago, but that seems to have died down. Interesting. Ah, no wonder I couldn't find it: fading memory. It's Hoplon, not Haplon. Lots of hits

Re: Mainframe running 1,500 Linux servers?

2009-11-21 Thread P S
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Tony Harminc tz...@attglobal.net wrote: The specialty engine part is just so much marketing hype. As has been discussed endlessly here, the current specialty engines are the very same engines as all the others, but with different legal Ts Cs that make it

Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-21 Thread P S
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Jim Elliott, IBM jim_elli...@ca.ibm.comwrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:15:59 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: If they were running on 3081s, that would be a big innovation. Last I heard they were still on 2050s (stripped down 360/50s).

Re: Mainframe running 1,500 Linux servers?

2009-11-20 Thread P S
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net shmuel%2bibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: snip What sort of mainframe can do this? zSeries. System z. zSeries is dead. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-20 Thread P S
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: On 11/20/2009 at 10:38 AM, Don Leahy don.le...@leacom.ca wrote: -snip- It's unfortunate that there isn't a technical journal devoted to the topic of systems failures on all platforms. It would be fascinating to learn

Re: Hardware withdrawal: IBM System z9

2009-11-17 Thread P S
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote: Thanks, I understand about all that. I just thought the timing seemed a little early. Well, the ARE four years old...time flies! -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Mainframe running 1,500 Linux servers?

2009-11-17 Thread P S
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@ssf.sas.com wrote: I read in z/Journal that one mainframe can host 1,500 Linux servers. What sort of mainframe can do this? How many CPU's would it take? How many CPU's are the maximum? How long is a piece of string? How big

Re: 'cloud computing' and 'SAAS'

2009-11-17 Thread P S
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:33 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I think that SaaS is simply SOAP, but you pay. Sounds a bit like the old Time Sharing systems that you could dial into. Indeed. What was old is new again. Cloud computing is a bit like casting your bottle

Re: Mainframe running 1,500 Linux servers?

2009-11-17 Thread P S
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: The 1500 number is made up, but is in the ballpark for a biggish z10. How do you know it's made up? I have no idea regarding this size, but I cannot dismiss it, either. I always suspect blanket statements like that one.

Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground

2009-11-14 Thread P S
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net shmuel%2bibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: No, they're legally required to maximize profits without violating the law. Lying about prevailing wages in order to get H1-B visa's is not part of their fiduciary duty.

Re: No mainframe dns : Was: RE: Z10 BC DNS Name

2009-11-11 Thread P S
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Maarten Slegtenhorst maarten.slegtenho...@mail.ing.nl wrote: Nice! I wish we had that, but, alas, it is not possible in our current LAN-network. Now we have to search for those who use an ip-address instead of a dns-name, because they have to change their

Re: No mainframe dns : Was: RE: Z10 BC DNS Name

2009-11-11 Thread P S
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:31:32 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Because it's not a Windows box. is the usual reason for the open systems people to refuse to do anything WRT the z/OS system. They apparently think that z/OS

Re: SV: An Alternative Modest PARM Proposal

2009-11-03 Thread P S
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote: Tsk, tsk. I think You should leave this matter to more persons with more knowledge. You see, this is a complicated matter, which You will maybe grasp when You have got some experience. And just how does this poorly

Re: FTP PUT with Store Unique

2009-11-02 Thread P S
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Miller, Pat pat.mil...@trs.state.tx.uswrote: It would appear that some of the application programmers whom I've been admonishing to be more explicit than A processing error has occurred have been advising the FTP developers in their considerable spare time on

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest subscription cancellation

2009-11-01 Thread P S
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: Truly interesting job title :) Probably an internal title -- my favorite internal CA title is Client Base Owner, or CBO -- which a friend immediately rechristened Chief Bulls**t Officer!

Re: A modest PARM proposal

2009-10-28 Thread P S
Folks, folks -- you're down in the weeds of implementation. If you want it, you need to justify it first. What makes this worth IBM's time? It would be nice, It's about time, and We'd use it are not sufficient arguments. -- For

Re: Secret Service plans IT reboot

2009-10-27 Thread P S
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Why is it called a memory leak? I think that's a distributed term. We used to call it something else on the mainframe, but I can't remember what. Core cancer? Hmm, in a few years this list will mainly consist of folks

Re: big iron mainframe vs. x86 servers

2009-10-27 Thread P S
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:20 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I don't like metric, personally. Too Earth-centric. I think we need to totally divorce all time and distance to more universal quantities. I nominate the 21 cm hydrogen spectral line for a distance and 7E-10

Re: Secret Service plans IT reboot

2009-10-26 Thread P S
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:47 AM, David Purdy dpurd...@aol.com wrote: Is that even possible for 1980 era hardware? -Not sure about parts, but in 1989 at Tektronix, we turned off supposedly the last 168 (MP of course) running west of the Mississippi. We had about a half-dozen CE's there, who

Re: big iron mainframe vs. x86 servers

2009-10-20 Thread P S
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Kirk Talman rkueb...@tsys.com wrote: How many Mainframe engines = 1500 x86 boxes? How many Kenworth rigs = 1500 motorcycles? Depends on what you're trying to do. Hint: if it's February in Minneapolis, the number is a lot smaller than if it's August.

Re: Fwd: Is There Such a Thing as a Mainframe Monopoly?

2009-10-19 Thread P S
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Re: Power 7 z11??? The Register's article

2009-10-16 Thread P S
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:04 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/16/ibm_power7_z11_rollout/ No real details, just rumours Sheesh: Bramley says to expect the z11 machines in the third quarter of 2010, which is a long, long time away in the

Re: MVS 5+ Yrs Position in Indianapolis, IN

2009-10-16 Thread P S
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.comwrote: I am not making this up. This is an actual posting for an experienced MVS systems programmer. Suitably redacted and approved for all audiences. $23/hr. YGBFKM. Interesting typo they made, W2 when they meant H1B.

Re: IBM book prices

2009-10-15 Thread P S
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Gainsford, Allen allen.gainsf...@hp.com wrote: For most manuals, softcopy is fine.  But having a hardcopy Reference Summary is *useful*.  It's the number one manual I refer to, by a long shot, and in the time it would take me to open a softcopy version and

Re: Three Multiprise 3000 IBM S390's on Auction

2009-10-13 Thread P S
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: Or not.  How long has it been since MVS/XA went to the museum?  Or CICS/OS/VS?  Or ?? To be above board, I doubt you'd be able to run anything as a new installation on the MP3000 that you can't run on Hercules

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread P S
Notwithstanding where it was and whose fault it was or wasn't, the fact that there are no backup procedures to speak of for keeping the business running is worth noting (and for which management should be excoriated). I've seen both extremes in fast food restaurants: at a Taco Bell once, a power

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread P S
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: SNIP THEM you might get some rational, realistic thinkers. :-) Or ones who can write an English sentence, even. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread P S
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: Be interesting to see the back and forth memos about DR and  failover on their Linux  Mainframes. I can't make Linux make sense in context here. Are you implying that the fact that this was Linux made it worse?

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread P S
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:14 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of P S Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: U.S. house

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread P S
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: If the crew schedules and maintenance information was on that system, they couldn't move until it was back up (hours of service and other interesting regulatory issues).  If the contract was written properly, IBM

Re: More bad news.

2009-10-10 Thread P S
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Hadaway, John jhada...@ucsd.edu wrote: The shortage is geograpghic...cost of moving preclude potential candidates from filling jobs in areas where needed...but with the housing crisis maybe that might change... Data?

Re: Justice Department probing allegations of abuse by IBM in mainframe computer market

2009-10-10 Thread P S
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/10/09/Judge_Tosses_Antitrust_Lawsuit_Against_IBM.htm is interesting (even if it does confuse the hardware and the software); perhaps most interesting is the link at the end, to http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/10/09/IBM.pdf . This includes some discussion of

Re: PSW question

2009-10-10 Thread P S
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote: A long time ago and far far away (1980's ?) I was in a MVS debugging course (at IBM).I asked a question of the instructor and got an answer which I looked at as a non answer.Though the years I have asked several IBM type's

Re: PSW question

2009-10-10 Thread P S
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: For another view, see:   Linkname: IBM - EBCDIC and the P-bit        URL: http://www.bobbemer.com/P-BIT.HTM Yes! That's the one I had seen most recently, and couldn't find this time.

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-09 Thread P S
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: Wrong equations :-) What is the *business case* for adding better optimizations to the COBOL compiler? Back in the day when there was fierce PCM competition, you could add new instructions and then spend money in compiler

Re: Justice Department probing allegations of abuse by IBM in mainframe computer market

2009-10-09 Thread P S
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: That has nothing to do with whether IBM's licensing policies violated antitrust laws. The fact remains that IBM refuses to license, e.g., z/OS, on competitive systems. Um. Doh?

Re: Justice Department probing allegations of abuse by IBM in mainframe computer market

2009-10-08 Thread P S
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Chuck Arney car...@illustro.com wrote: Did you ever hear of FLEX-ES?  They provided a 64-bit machine that IBM would not let them license to production installations.  They could license it to developers until IBM decided to not license the patents to them, so

Re: Fw: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-08 Thread P S
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Bill Klein wmkl...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I am a COBOL person not an Assembler person.  Don't the grande instructions require a specific architecture level set?  If so, that might be why (as others in the thread have indicated), COBOL does NOT do what you are

Re: More bad news.

2009-09-30 Thread P S
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Hillock, Timothy timothy.hill...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote: Maybe the writer was trying to say the percentage of the students not enrolling was increasing from year to year (but in fewer words as we saw). Maybe. But we can't tell. That's poor writing.

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