Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-01-30 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 30 Jan 2006 07:12:08 -0800, "as400" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is there anyway I can access a Mainframe from Putty? It always asks me >what application it is on the Putty console screen. You're bck! So, now you want to *access* those DMV systems you were asking about??? http://bama.

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-01-30 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
as400 wrote: Is there anyway I can access a Mainframe from Putty? It always asks me what application it is on the Putty console screen. Thanks The answer is maybe. You need to ask whomever is in charge of the mainframe you are attempting to access.

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-01-31 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
. Sent: 31 January 2006 01:37 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty? as400 wrote: > Is there anyway I can access a Mainframe from Putty? It always asks me > what application it is on the Putty console screen. > > Thanks > The answer is maybe.

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-01-31 Thread Richard Pinion
80 chars are full ... etc. so putty did not work for me... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr. Sent: 31 January 2006 01:37 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty? as400 wrote: >

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty

2006-01-31 Thread Steve Wolf
I use Putty to logon to the Rlogin Daemon at port 513. You must have the INETD listener running. You security system must support the USS environment. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-01-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:23:20 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The application is TSO, but I tried it , and found that it has a line >mode type display... all in one line until the 80 chars are full ... >etc. so putty did not work for me... >... It sounds like you accessed the

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-01-31 Thread Chris Mason
or both TELNET servers. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Tuesday, 31 January, 2006 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty? > On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:23:20 -, V

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Chris Mason said: > Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:47:36 +0100 > > Probably it's conventional to specify one port in order to use TELNET for > access to non-USS applications such as TSO and CICS and specify another port > in order to use TELNET for access to USS. > > However,

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:04 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty? > > > > I guess

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said: > Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:12:42 -0600 > > How about because TSO, CICS, etc. are all VTAM applications whereas a > UNIX shell prompt is a TCPIP application, with no VTAM involvement? > Words, words, words. Why shouldn't a solicitor present the choice

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread Chris Mason
ather forget now what the sequence was but the USS table managed to replace this "solicitor" completely. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Paul Gilmartin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Wednesday, 01 February, 20

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread Schramm, Rob
If the systems programmer setup ssh, then you can use ssh. It is pretty easy to setup. I use ssh to connect to all my mainframes for unix'ing. Have 'em run java1.4.2+jzos+tomcat+jspwiki with the security constraint for some really fun ways to document all of your mainframe stuff. .. And it is

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:47:36 +0100, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Probably it's conventional to specify one port in order to use TELNET for >access to non-USS applications such as TSO and CICS and specify another port >in order to use TELNET for access to USS. Naturally the "device ty

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:03:49 -0700, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I guess I'm being finicky, but if the solicitor can present TSO >or CICS as application choices, why can't it likewise present >UNIX as a third alternative? >... What you are calling "the solicitor" is part of the

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:27 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty? > > > On Wed,

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread Chris Mason
chord :-) Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Wednesday, 01 February, 2006 10:13 PM Subject: Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty? > On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:47:36 +0100, Chris Mason <

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/01/2006 at 07:47 AM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >access but automation requires line-by-line access. What gives you that idea? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see W

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/01/2006 at 03:13 PM, "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I think we've go different viewpoint here rather than any real >difference of opinion. The MVS Tn3270 server supports Tn3270, >Tn3270E, and line-mode (ASCII or EBCDIC) clients. The line-mode >devic

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:44:40 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >ITYM that for line mode it talks to VTAM as LU1. For 3270 mode it >talks to VTAM as LU2. In neither case does it talk to VTAM as a 3767. >In fact, VTAM cannot directly deal with a 3767; you need NTO in the >middle. >... Wel

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:38:38 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >>access but automation requires line-by-line access. > >What gives you that idea? >... Ok. So Chris maybe shouldn't have said "requires". Yes, there is full- screen automation. Every screen-scraper is doing full-screen au

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
s not performed in fact due to the 3705 etc. architecture not having a storage move instruction. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Thursday, 02 February, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: R

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
Perhaps a skill that folk who are too ham-fisted to manage the laptop mouse facilities - folk like myself that is - may find useful to acquire. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent:

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
quot; stream - it's all so long ago now since I played with my 3776s and 7s. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Thursday, 02 February, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Access to Mainfra

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/02/2006 at 03:36 PM, "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Ok. So Chris maybe shouldn't have said "requires". Yes, there is >full-screen automation. Every screen-scraper is doing full-screen >automation. Even NetView has full-screen automation. But automa

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/03/2006 at 02:44 AM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Even so I vaguely remember "integrated communications >adapters" which supported SDLC circuits. My recollection is that those were supported only in VSE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and J

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/03/2006 at 03:40 AM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >At the time I tried to implement >automation for the purposes of teaching it, basically the 80s, the >idea of implementing automation by programmed analysis of 3270 data >streams in order to extract key ch

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-03 Thread Jay Maynard
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 09:11:12AM -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/03/2006 >at 02:44 AM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >Even so I vaguely remember "integrated communications > >adapters" which supported SDLC circuits. > My recollection is that th

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-03 Thread Chris Mason
TELNET client but I appreciate that this probably offers a very simple way also to specify different port numbers so we're back to where we started. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Paul Gilmartin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-03 Thread Chris Mason
tion to using LU type 1 protocols, the 3767 also uses PU type 1 protocols. PUTYPE=1 is not an option with the XCA major node PU statement. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Jay Maynard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, 03 Februar

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/03/2006 at 06:25 PM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Shmuel is right - he often is - well, half-right, but I'm not >deducting any points for not mentioning VM. In other words the ICA is >supported only under VM and VSE VTAM . IMHO you should deduct points f