Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:40:31 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Stocker, Herman wrote: ... they want a package [...] from a vendor who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Accountable? Better read the disclaimer carefully. A software provider like IBM or an ISV will fix a bug if you

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Craddock
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: Stocker, Herman wrote: ... they want a package [...] from a vendor who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Accountable? Better read the disclaimer carefully. A software provider like IBM or an

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Golden, Art
My firm (Software Engineering of America) offers a product called FMO (Fast Member Organizer) that will do this for you. Art Golden -Original Message- From: Mark Zelden [mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Tony B.
:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source My firm (Software Engineering of America) offers a product called FMO (Fast Member Organizer) that will do this for you. Art Golden -Original Message- From: Mark Zelden

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread King, Jeffrey E
@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Denis Gäbler
Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source CA PDSMAN offers a wide range of archiving and recovery options for members in both PDS and PDSE libraries. This includes maintaining multiple versions of a member within a library, establishing a Journal (or shadow

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:19:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... ...who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Accountable? Better read the disclaimer carefully. A software provider like IBM or an ISV will fix a bug if you report it. But, they won't pay you for

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:57:26 -0400, Stocker, Herman herman.stoc...@avisbudget.com wrote: G'day, I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number of copies

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Mark Zelden
I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:31:03 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.) I was wondering the same thing with SCLM Could that do what the OP wants ?

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:23:38 -0500, Bruno Sugliani oldti...@wanadoo.fr wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:31:03 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention CA-PDSMAN yet. Or doesn't that work with LMODs? (I haven't worked with this product since the early 90s.)

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Stocker, Herman
We are currently running CA-Endevor. Management does not feel that it gives them the protection that they are looking for. They are looking for an additional product that would allow them to archive the load modules before any update is made. They would like a product that would copy (archive

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread McKown, John
First, please forgive me for blue skying (or just fantasizing a bit). One thing comes to mind that could possibly be done. And it would not require a vendor product. But it uses z/OS UNIX files as a storage medium. I don't know Endevor much. I did a quick question to our Endevor person. Endevor

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:01:27 -0400, Stocker, Herman herman.stoc...@avisbudget.com wrote: We are currently running CA-Endevor. Management does not feel that it gives them the protection that they are looking for. They are looking for an additional product that would allow them to archive the

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:16:11 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Now, if you can capture the name of the load module and the library which is going to be updated, then I can envision a step which could use the TSO XMIT command to XMIT the load module into a file in a UNIX subdirectory. The name of the

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Stocker, Herman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source We are currently running CA-Endevor. Management does not feel that it gives them the protection

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Stocker, Herman
Thank you Dave, We have all ready suggested that. However, they want a package that will archive the load modules, from a vendor who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Thank you. Regards, Herman Stocker - Snip- Since you have full control of what the Endevor

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
Of Stocker, Herman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source Thank you Dave, We have all ready suggested that. However, they want a package that will archive the load modules, from

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Stocker, Herman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source Thank you

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source On Mon, 17

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Edward Jaffe
Stocker, Herman wrote: ... they want a package [...] from a vendor who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Accountable? Better read the disclaimer carefully. A software provider like IBM or an ISV will fix a bug if you report it. But, they won't pay you for down time or lost

Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-14 Thread Stocker, Herman
G'day, I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number of copies or generations of the load modules. I thought I had heard of a product once a long time ago

Archive members of a PDS/PDSE

2009-08-14 Thread Colleen Gordon
There is a product that does this. It is sold by Mainstar. It's call SYSchange. It backs up members of a PDS/PDSE every time they are changed (automatically). It keeps however many copies you want to keep in an archive database so you can restore them. Check out the Mainstar Web Site at

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-14 Thread Traylor, Terry
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source G'day, I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-14 Thread Staller, Allan
Archiver on the CBT Tape WWW.CBTTAPE.ORG FILE 147 SNIP I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number of copies or generations of the load modules. /snip

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Libraries, Not Source

2009-08-14 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip G'day, I have been tasked with finding a utility that can archive members of a PDS/PDSE data set, Not the entire data set but individual members. The utility should be able to keep a number of copies or generations of the load