Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <466682.32875...@web161405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 05/17/2011 at 10:19 PM, Ed Gould said: >One the other hand 3 pages is just plain overkill. A simple URL >would have suficed Unless it is rather large or there are currency issue, a quote is preferable to a URL. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-17 Thread Ed Gould
2011 7:53:13 AM Subject: Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF In <105438.15379...@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 05/15/2011 at 09:47 PM, Ed Gould said: >People write in whole complete sentences for a complete thought >to be conveyed. Some people do, sometimes. Some people sometim

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <009f01cc1355$5b8989b0$129c9d10$@hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net>, on 05/15/2011 at 04:11 PM, Ron Hawkins said: >One could complain that there are some on the list that reply >frequently, but don't actually add anything of value to the subject >when they do. Or that add negative value by provid

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <105438.15379...@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 05/15/2011 at 09:47 PM, Ed Gould said: >People write in whole complete sentences for a complete thought >to be conveyed. Some people do, sometimes. Some people sometimes write perfectly understandable sentence fragments. >Take as an exam

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-16 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
: Monika Amiss > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 4:32:13 AM > Subject: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF > > > Hello Kees, > > thank you for your answer, which helps me very much. Is DLF an option to cache > the member data? > > Or - if i

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-15 Thread Mike Schwab
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Ed Gould wrote: ---SNIP- > > So it's a Catch 22; you'll either complain that the reply is too short > or that it's too long. > > No. :) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZ8ulc5NTg Hel

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-15 Thread Ed Gould
-SNIP--- So it's a Catch 22; you'll either complain that the reply is too short or that it's too long. -- It is the word word replies (sorry I couldn't resist the first reply). People write in whole complete sentences for a complete thought to be conveyed. I

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-15 Thread Ed Gould
---SNIP- So it's a Catch 22; you'll either complain that the reply is too short or that it's too long. No. :) ---

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-15 Thread Ron Hawkins
Shmuel, Not really. One could complain that there are some on the list that reply frequently, but don't actually add anything of value to the subject when they do. That works for short and long responses. Ron > > So it's a Catch 22; you'll either complain that the reply is too short > or th

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <488338.78331...@web161408.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 05/13/2011 at 09:57 PM, Ed Gould said: >We seem to have a at least on contributor that answers with one word >answers and you are left puzzling what he really means half the time >that you have to spend 30 minutes analyzing the response.

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ed, > I consider that cheaper and a lot less cumbersome than VLF. > I was at one place and they had a good size turnover of Sysprogs and none of > them even thought about VLF after applying fixes. > There was a decent number of head scratching as to why fixes didn't fix. [Ron Hawkins] VLF cachin

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-13 Thread Ed Gould
hen on the otherside we have several people who can spend yards of replies and trying to follow some of the responses is as bad as the one word responses. Ed From: Mark Zelden To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 5:06:24 PM Subject: Re: Aw: Re: non-

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:33:35 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: >Follow up to this question. > >Has anyone put the ISPF (load libs) in VLF and found it to help TSO response >time? > >Ed > For many years. They are in the LNKLST, so they get LLA and VLF benefit. I put other ISPLLIBs in the LNKLST also.An

Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-13 Thread Ed Gould
Follow up to this question. Has anyone put the ISPF (load libs) in VLF and found it to help TSO response time? Ed From: Monika Amiss To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 4:32:13 AM Subject: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF Hello Kees, thank

Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-12 Thread Monika Amiss
Hello Kees, thank you for your answer, which helps me very much. Is DLF an option to cache the member data? Or - if i convert the Dataset to PDS/E and use its caching, is it usefull to leave the Dataset in LLA? With best regards Monika - Original Nachricht Von: "Ver