Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:22:35 +0100, Jim McAlpine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Rob, do you run this directly from TSO. > >Jim McAlpine Yes, batch TSO. It runs as part of a program generation job. Could run foreground TSO if we had an application. -Rob ---

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-28 Thread Jim McAlpine
Rob, do you run this directly from TSO. Jim McAlpine On 7/25/06, Rob Wunderlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:25:00 +0100, Jim McAlpine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Are ther any CVS clients available that allow source to be brought into PDS >datasets as opposed to HFS file

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
Rob Wunderlich writes: >You might also want to consider using one of the java CVS clients -- they >should run on z/os as well. That's another good idea, Rob. To expand on that, here's one such Java implementation: http://javacvs.netbeans.org/library/index.html - - - - - Timothy F. Sipples Consu

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said: > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:18:21 -0500 > > > I'd certainly use "patch" rather than IEBUPDTE. > > I very much agree! Especially since I generate them using "diff" and > never "by hand". > SuperC will generate IEBUPDTE input (option UPDMVS8). But it'

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>But it could take a long time to scan all the online DASD. Processing SMF data is not a quick process. We do it successfully with HSM in parallel tasks for 9.5TB. >An how can you be sure that you really found all the changed files? If I lost SMF, how can I be sure. You also have to make an ass

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:00 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CVS for MVS > > > >VFI finds changed/created files by processin

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>VFI finds changed/created files by processing SMF records. That seems excessive. Wouldn't it be better to just go and look at VTOCs? When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:54 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CVS for MVS > > > In a recent note, McKown, John said: >

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said: > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:44:59 -0500 > > IIRC, BPAM support for HFS directories is "read-only". If somebody want > to use "legacy" programs to update a "member" of an emulated PDS in an > HFS, then it would fail. So the PDS may still be needed. E.g.

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CVS for MVS > > > In a recent note, Rob Wunderlich said: >

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Rob Wunderlich said: > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:04:28 -0500 > > I update CVS indirectly from PDS members. I accomplsh this by using a > bridge exec that OCOPYs the PDS member to temp HFS files before invoking > CVS client on the temp HFS files. > But, then, why do you

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:25:00 +0100, Jim McAlpine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Are ther any CVS clients available that allow source to be brought into PDS >datasets as opposed to HFS file systems. > I update CVS indirectly from PDS members. I accomplsh this by using a bridge exec that OCOPYs the

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Jim McAlpine said: > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:25:00 +0100 > > Are ther any CVS clients available that allow source to be brought into PDS > datasets as opposed to HFS file systems. > This should be less a concern nowadays, since there's (at least limited) BPAM support

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Jim McAlpine
Are ther any CVS clients available that allow source to be brought into PDS datasets as opposed to HFS file systems. Jim McAlpine On 7/25/06, Rob Wunderlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:08:58 +0900, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Jim McAlpine wrote: >>Can so

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:08:58 +0900, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Jim McAlpine wrote: >>Can someone point me to a url for the latest version of the above along >with >>some installation instructions. > >There is a CVS for z/OS (server and client) available here: > >http://cvsmvs.dcc

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
Jim McAlpine wrote: >Can someone point me to a url for the latest version of the above along with >some installation instructions. There is a CVS for z/OS (server and client) available here: http://cvsmvs.dccmn.com along with information on a mailing list discussing this version. This is Versio

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/24/2006 at 11:59 AM, Bruce Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Jim, I hate to pick on you, but one of my hot buttons is posters who >throw out initials or acronyms and expect everyone on the list to >know what they are. The only CVS I know of is a drugstore . Yes,

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-24 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:00 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CVS for MVS > > > > Can someone point me to a url for t

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Jim McAlpine wrote: Sorry Bruce, I didn't know anything about it myself until today, so I should have known better. CVS stands for Concurrent Versions System and it is an open source system which is unix based and is used for version control of source code in a development environment. Someth

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-24 Thread Jim McAlpine
Sorry Bruce, I didn't know anything about it myself until today, so I should have known better. CVS stands for Concurrent Versions System and it is an open source system which is unix based and is used for version control of source code in a development environment. Something akin to the commerc

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Bruce Black wrote: Can someone point me to a url for the latest version of the above along with some installation instructions. Jim, I hate to pick on you, but one of my hot buttons is posters who throw out initials or acronyms and expect everyone on the list to know what they are. The only

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-24 Thread Bruce Black
Can someone point me to a url for the latest version of the above along with some installation instructions. Jim, I hate to pick on you, but one of my hot buttons is posters who throw out initials or acronyms and expect everyone on the list to know what they are. The only CVS I know of is a d

CVS for MVS

2006-07-24 Thread Jim McAlpine
Can someone point me to a url for the latest version of the above along with some installation instructions. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with th