In listserv%200911210814513481.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/21/2009
at 08:14 AM, Jim Elliott, IBM jim_elli...@ca.ibm.com said:
The 9020 (not 2050) was made up of modified 360-65 and 360-50 systems.
A modified 2050 or 2075 was one of the compnents. But don't forget the
modified 2040 (360/40) used
In 26b24817b5a24f19b095f98d12a3a...@ericnbpc, on 11/20/2009
at 09:34 AM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com said:
This is kind of off the topic, but related. Wasn't there a discussion on
IBM-Main a couple years ago about the air traffic control system being
run on old IBM 3081s?
Stock
In 67954f200911210718i2ce5ac8ftbc76732634439...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/21/2009
at 10:18 AM, P S zosw...@gmail.com said:
Jim, what were the weird characters after 65 and 50 supposed to be?
Interesting. He sent his message as ISO-8859-1 and you sent your reply as
UTF-8 without translating those
In listserv%200911220705337562.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/22/2009
at 07:05 AM, Jim Elliott, IBM jim_elli...@ca.ibm.com said:
Weird, they are apostrophes.
No. Your e-mail software probably has a bug in it, but apostrophe in
ISO-8859-1 is '27'x, not '92'x.
Aso, where does that '0B'x come from?
In 94c476c03bff5e42ac3518fdac9643c4e2de970...@hqmail.rocketsoftware.com,
on 11/20/2009
at 01:13 PM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com said:
I had some interaction with one of the FAA's Air Route Traffic Control
Centers in May, 1978. The IBM mainframes then being used by the FAA
were specialty
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Patrick Lyon wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:56:25 -0700, Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
dennis.ro...@lmco.com wrote:
Looks like a router failure
http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software
In 4b096c2b.40...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 11/22/2009
at 08:51 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said:
Of course, those apostrophes should simply be removed.
That depends on which style guide you are using, alas.
This is plural not possessive usage.
The apostrophe is used for more
In p06240804c72f50f6d...@[192.168.1.11], on 11/22/2009
at 03:37 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com said:
The problem is that they are the curly quotes in the Windows-1252
Partially that, and partially that the messages header specified
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:18:42 -0500, P S zosw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jim, what were the weird characters after 65 and 50 supposed to be? Just
curious.
Weird, they are apostrophes.
four Model 65's, three Model 50's
Jim
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Jim Elliott, IBM wrote:
The 9020 (not 2050) was made up of modified 360-65 and 360-50 systems. A
These were replaced by 3083s (might have been 3081s).
Thank you for the clarification. I'm not sure how I missed that,
but you learn something new every millennium g
Gerhard Postpischil
Jim Elliott, IBM wrote:
Weird, they are apostrophes.
four Model 65's, three Model 50's
Of course, those apostrophes should simply be removed. This is plural
not possessive usage.
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Phoenix Software International, Inc
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At 07:05 -0600 on 11/22/2009, Jim Elliott, IBM wrote about Re: Check
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:18:42 -0500, P S zosw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jim, what were the weird characters after 65 and 50 supposed to be? Just
curious.
Weird, they are
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:15:59 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net
wrote:
If they were running on 3081s, that would be a big innovation.
Last I heard they were still on 2050s (stripped down 360/50s).
Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT
The 9020 (not 2050) was made up of modified 360-65 and
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Jim Elliott, IBM jim_elli...@ca.ibm.comwrote:
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:15:59 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil
gerh...@valley.net
wrote:
If they were running on 3081s, that would be a big innovation.
Last I heard they were still on 2050s (stripped down 360/50s).
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That's what I was thinking. A system this critical and there is no
backup and no failover for 7*24 uptime. Just think - this is one of the
systems
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote:
Tongue in cheek reply.
Because we take a perverse pleasure in seeing squatty box failures when
the reliability (FSVO reliability) of a Mainframe is called for?
Or to keep it on topic.
We wish to learn from others
In a message dated 11/20/2009 9:24:02 A.M. Central Standard Time,
thomas.kel...@commercebank.com writes:
That's what I was thinking. A system this critical and there is no
backup and no failover for 7*24 uptime. Just think - this is one of the
systems that controls our airline flights. I
On 11/20/2009 at 10:38 AM, Don Leahy don.le...@leacom.ca wrote:
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It's unfortunate that there isn't a technical journal devoted to the
topic of systems failures on all platforms. It would be fascinating
to learn about the many ways that systems can fail.
The ACM used to have a mailing
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote:
On 11/20/2009 at 10:38 AM, Don Leahy don.le...@leacom.ca wrote:
-snip-
It's unfortunate that there isn't a technical journal devoted to the
topic of systems failures on all platforms. It would be fascinating
to learn
Eric Bielefeld wrote:
This is kind of off the topic, but related. Wasn't there a discussion
on IBM-Main a couple years ago about the air traffic control system
being run on old IBM 3081s? If I remember right, and my memory isn't as
good as it used to be, it was just a few years ago that
Does anyone know for a fact what the air traffic control is running on? I'm
really curious. My first job was operating a 360/40. A good machine for
the time. I know the 360/50 was quite a bit faster.
Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
IBM Global Services Division
Dubuque, Iowa
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If they were
As one person connected with Project Apollo quipped, we sent people to the
moon with everything supplied by the lowest bidders.
That was actually Alan Sheppard, when he was asked by a reporter what he was
thinking when he was waiting during count down.
That was 6 or 7 years earlier.
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Too busy
Thank you for this -- suspicions confirmed.
I am reminded of doing support in the late 80s/early 90s. LUGA calls and
has an abend in TPX. Guy has got the psw/registers declassified and is
faxing them to me. He will get any page of the dump declassified I need
or he can answer questions over
They probably moverd off of ACP/TPF to a smaller platform.
Typical for a non mainframe Platform
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They probably moverd off of ACP/TPF to a smaller platform.
Typical for a non mainframe
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:49 -0600, Hal Merritt
hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote:
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After thorough technology and product evaluations, Stratus was chosen as
best able to provide an open platform with 99.999 percent uptime reliability
/snip
Guess they got their .001.
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The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to
a document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data
Interchange Network with Stratus ftServer
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:49 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a
document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data
Interchange Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 10-
year logistical and service
Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 8 hours per year.
Not to confuse with z/VM reliability that was 99.99 if I recall it
correctly
back in 1991 or so for VM/ESA 1.0.
cheers,
Alex
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:33:31 -0600, Alex UMX wrote:
Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 8 hours per year.
Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/10 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 0.1 hours per year.
Not to confuse with
-Original Message-
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The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to
a document dated March, 2005:
FAA modernizing National Airspace Data Interchange Network with
Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to
When they use the term 5 nines, I always question where the decimal point
is?
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Alex UMX lba...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 8 hours per year.
Not to confuse with z/VM
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:49 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a
document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data
Interchange Network
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Well, 99.999% reliability
.
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They probably moverd off
On 19 Nov 2009 12:05:22 -0800, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 8 hours per year.
Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/10 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 0.1 hours per year.
Tongue in cheek reply.
Because we take a perverse pleasure in seeing squatty box failures when
the reliability (FSVO reliability) of a Mainframe is called for?
Or to keep it on topic.
We wish to learn from others mistakes. Unfortunately that would require
fairly accurate info so the various
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On 19 Nov 2009 12:05:22 -0800, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:56:25 -0700, Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
dennis.ro...@lmco.com wrote:
Looks like a router failure
http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software-hackers-delays.aspx?
s=FAAnewsalert
4 hours to fix a router? Good Grief.
Nemo wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:49 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a
document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data
Interchange Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 10-
-snip-
Looks like a router failure
http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software-hackers-delays.aspx?s=FAAnewsalert
4 hours to fix a router? Good Grief.
On 19 Nov 2009 14:26:55 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
-snip-
Looks like a router failure
http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software-hackers-delays.aspx?s=FAAnewsalert
4 hours to fix a router? Good Grief.
Patrick Lyon wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:56:25 -0700, Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
dennis.ro...@lmco.com wrote:
Looks like a router failure
http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software-hackers-delays.aspx?
s=FAAnewsalert
4 hours to fix a router? Good Grief.
And no backup?
Hal Merritt wrote:
The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a
document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data
Interchange Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 10-year
logistical and service support
The FAA is
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