Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-15 Thread Clark Morris
> > >To >IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >cc > >Subject >Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to >ZIP a mainframe file. > > > > > > >On 14 Feb 2008 09:42:02 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > >>Don Leahy wrote:

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
o be reapplied or reworked for every upgrade > to the package? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#37 COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file it is all relative ... and/or return-on-investment aka whether overall lower net costs of COTS

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-15 Thread Ed Philbrook
ase respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. On 14 Feb 2008 09:42:02 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Don Leahy wrote: >> On Wed, Feb

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-14 Thread Clark Morris
On 14 Feb 2008 09:42:02 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Don Leahy wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Steve Comstock >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Sorry. What is COTS? >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> -Steve Comstock >>> The Trainer's Friend, Inc. >> >> >> Commer

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-14 Thread Don Leahy
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don Leahy wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Steve Comstock > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> Sorry. What is COTS? > >> > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> -Steve Comstock > >> The Trainer'

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-14 Thread Steve Comstock
Don Leahy wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry. What is COTS? Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. Commercial Off The Shelf. It is the 'silver bullet' solution du jour in the organization that I work for. Ahh! We

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-14 Thread Don Leahy
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sorry. What is COTS? > > > Kind regards, > > -Steve Comstock > The Trainer's Friend, Inc. Commercial Off The Shelf. It is the 'silver bullet' solution du jour in the organization that I work for. --

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-13 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Comstock) writes: > Sorry. What is COTS? commercial off the shelf ... i believe coined by somebody in gov. sometime around the early 80s ... as alternative to hig

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-13 Thread Tom Schmidt
08 8:49 AM >>>>Subject: Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. >>>> >>>>McKown, John wrote: >>>>[snip] >>>> >>>The current management still says that it is going away (despite the >>>fact that the workload is growing

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-13 Thread Steve Comstock
: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. McKown, John wrote: [snip] I don't look for zAAP information on anything. "The mainframe is going away" is the mantra and nothing that I have done in the past can even get the attention of management. They simply don't seem to w

COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-13 Thread Clark Morris
UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. >> >> >> McKown, John wrote: >> [snip] >> > >> > I don't look for zAAP information on anything. "The >> mainframe is going >> > away" is the mantra and nothi

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-13 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:49 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. > > > McKown, John

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-13 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: [snip] I don't look for zAAP information on anything. "The mainframe is going away" is the mantra and nothing that I have done in the past can even get the attention of management. They simply don't seem to want to be bothered with the System z in any manner. John, I was g

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-13 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:13 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. > > > John, when y

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
Apparently not: > ls -al /dev/fd/0 crw-rw-rw- 1 DFS DCEMVS 5, 0 Feb 12 12:08 /dev/fd/0 > cat /etc/profile | jar cvM /dev/fd/0 > profile.zip /dev/fd/0 : no such file or directory java.util.zip.ZipException: ZIP file must have at least one entry at java.util.zip.ZipOutputStream.

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:25:35 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: > >Using "jar" requires that the file be first stored in an HFS file, >since jar can only process files, and not "stdin". > Will it process character special files, e.g. /dev/fd/0? -- gil

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
The "jar" command is really just a special launcher that runs some Java code that uses the java.util.zip package, so it would be zAAP enabled. The native library used by java.util.zip is zAAP enabled. Using "jar" requires that the file be first stored in an HFS file, since jar can only process fi

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:12:48 +0900, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >John, when you zip a file using the jar command, do you see any zAAP >eligible workload? Just curious. Although the jar command is part of the >Java runtime, I'm not sure whether jar sends anything to the zAAP. > Ja

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
John, when you zip a file using the jar command, do you see any zAAP eligible workload? Just curious. Although the jar command is part of the Java runtime, I'm not sure whether jar sends anything to the zAAP. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Mainframe: >PKZIP for MVS >PKZIP for Z/OS ZIP/390 from Data21 INFO-ZIP A few freewares. A couple of years ago, I ran a project to replace PKZIP with ZIP/390. There are many products out there, ZIP/390 was the only 'work-alike'. Out of 9,000 ZIP jobs we only had to change 5 that were using more

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread Luis Miguel Martinez Chavez
Mainframe: PKZIP for MVS PKZIP for Z/OS USS or Linux: 1.- OPUT, OGET, OCOPY or ISHELL to copying your DSN file to USS/Linux 2.- tar, pax, cpio ... your DSN file 3.- OPUT, OGET, OCOPY or ISHELL to MVS or FTP -- For IBM-MAIN sub

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
Oh, I might mention that you can create a ZIP with multiple members simply by having multiple fromdsn commands before the jar command and then listing them on the jar command line. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Serv

Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
I'm never one to do things the easy way when I can do it the complicated way . Anyway, below is a way to create a ZIP file containing a SINGLE z/OS sequential file. It uses Dovetailed Technologies DTLSPAWN, fromdsn, todsn, and the Java jar command. It must use a z/OS UNIX file as intermediary stora