DSPSERV defined IOON

2010-09-28 Thread Micheal Butz
Hi, Would anyone know what DEFINED IOON is in regards to DSPSERV. BACK=64,BACK=31 Thankx Sent from my iPhone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: DSPSERV defined IOON

2010-09-28 Thread Starr, Alan
I believe that I have gleaned a fair idea. I referenced the Authorized Assembler Services Reference Volume 1 and DSPSERV in SYS1.MACLIB The virtual data space must be backed by real storage and the addressability of the real storage frames (above or below 2GB) is somewhat dependent upon whether

Re: DSPSERV defined IOON

2010-09-28 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 09/28/2010 02:41:27 PM: I believe that I have gleaned a fair idea. I referenced the Authorized Assembler Services Reference Volume 1 and DSPSERV in SYS1.MACLIB The virtual data space must be backed by real storage

Re: DSPSERV defined IOON

2010-09-28 Thread Bill Fairchild
] On Behalf Of Starr, Alan Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DSPSERV defined IOON I'm pretty sure that the new MIDAWs are usually required to access real frames above 2GB and I'd guess that most of the standard access methods aren't using MIDAWs yet

DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer
Hi, I would like to allocate memory in Common Data Space with DSPSERV Macro and my requirement is that Data Space survive my Address Space Termination. That means it remains allocatad after my AS ends and other Address Spaces or an Exit-Routine can access it. One of my trial was, to allocate

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rob Scott
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DSPSERV Hi, I would like to allocate memory in Common Data Space with DSPSERV Macro and my requirement is that Data Space survive my Address Space Termination. That means it remains allocatad after my AS ends and other Address Spaces or an Exit-Routine can access it. One

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:08:49 +0200 Gabor Hoffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :My program (EventMonitor, EM) installs an ExitModul under IEFU83 and IEFU84 :Exit. The Code and Buffer (for SMF-Records that are collectet with Exit) are :in ECSA. Exit and EM communicates with ECB and exchange data over

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer
Rob, My program (EventMonitor, EM) installs an ExitModul under IEFU83 and IEFU84 Exit. The Code and Buffer (for SMF-Records that are collectet with Exit) are in ECSA. Exit and EM communicates with ECB and exchange data over ECSA. There are 2 request on this architecture: 1. Able to end

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer
As a mentioned I'm not expert in SRBs and I'm learning MVS system programming. I'v looked for SRBs in books. If i understand it correct, i can let an Address Space to run a code in my Address Space. Is it ok? Gabor ps: i did'nt ask you to code it for me. I already told you - look up SRBs.

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rob Scott
Gabor One way to do it is schedule an SRB into *MASTER* and that SRB performs the DSPSERV CREATE with TTOKEN. However, I would still advise against this for the following reasons : (1) There is a simpler and safer solution. (2) It is very likely that at some point you will cause problems

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:44:19 +0200 Gabor Hoffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :As a mentioned I'm not expert in SRBs and I'm learning MVS system :programming. I'v looked for SRBs in books. If i understand it correct, i can :let an Address Space to run a code in my Address Space. Is it ok? True. But

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer
have a lot of learning to do. Gabor On 7/25/07, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabor One way to do it is schedule an SRB into *MASTER* and that SRB performs the DSPSERV CREATE with TTOKEN. However, I would still advise against this for the following reasons : (1) There is a simpler

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Gabor Hoffer
True. But much more. It allows any address space to schedule work to be run in a different address space. Thanks. I'll try it, but not with *MASTER*. ;-) There is a good example in book Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces Gabor

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rob Scott
for a non-trivial period of time the real frames backing the CADS will just keep increasing and you will not be very popular . DSPSERV RELEASE can be used to return unused resources back to the system. Good luck Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Paul D'Angelo
Gabor Wouldnt this design be much cleaner by starting a second address space whose sole purpose is to own the dataspace ? Basically it would contain all the Data Space Code to initialize/create and destroy the dataspace and a Console Routine to stop this Address space. Granted not as

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul D'Angelo Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DSPSERV Gabor Wouldnt this design be much cleaner by starting a second address space

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:09:42 -0600 Jeffrey D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : -Original Message- : From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On : Behalf Of Paul D'Angelo : Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:15 AM : To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU : Subject: Re: DSPSERV

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Edward Jaffe
Rob Scott wrote: By the way, I applaud your decision to convert ECSA usage to a CADS - that is a sensible solution. Personally, I don't like SCOPE=COMMON data spaces (CADS). Exceeding MAXCAD requires an IPL. (The default is 50.) And, don't forget the maximum number of entries in a

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rob Scott
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DSPSERV Rob Scott wrote: By the way, I applaud your decision to convert ECSA usage to a CADS - that is a sensible solution. Personally, I don't like SCOPE=COMMON data spaces (CADS). Exceeding MAXCAD requires an IPL. (The default is 50.) And, don't forget

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DSPSERV Ed I thought that a CADS approach to intercepting SMF records was appropriate

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip I'm likely insane, but I'd like to see some common storage like [E]CSA in the above the bar area. Simple SAM64 to switch to AMODE(64), store the data, then SAMxx to go back to 31 or 24 bit amode. -unsnip---

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:30:44 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: There's just a tad bit of virtual storage up there to use. By default it is 510T. ;-) But for a vendor to use it, they must ensure a minimum OS level of z/OS 1.5. Since 1.6 EOS is September, developing something new that uses shared

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:56:00 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm likely insane, but I'd like to see some common storage like [E]CSA in the above the bar area. Simple SAM64 to switch to AMODE(64), store the data, then SAMxx to go back to 31 or 24 bit amode.

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:56:00 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm likely insane, but I'd like to see some common storage like [E]CSA in the above the bar area. Simple SAM64 to switch to AMODE(64), store the data, then SAMxx to go back to 31 or 24 bit amode. There's just a tad bit

Re: DSPSERV

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:51:32 -0500, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:30:44 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: There's just a tad bit of virtual storage up there to use. By default it is 510T. ;-) But for a vendor to use it, they must ensure a minimum OS level of z/OS 1.5.