Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/03/2010 at 11:45 AM, Darth Keller said: >An interesting question came up this morning The hard way? >Have I found a new career path or should I just ask for my >medications to be adjusted? I would like to tell you that the scenario is a fantasy and that you have nothing to worr

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 12/03/2010 at 02:31 PM, Patrick Lyon said: >We had a normal power bump to our building. Happens once in awhile, >right? Lights go off for a second and back on, PC reboots, you've >recovered from that sudden shock it gives you. That's possible, even common. It's not guarantied. How

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off) and wonders

2010-12-09 Thread zMan
Apropos this thread, was driving today and saw a truck that said "Data center cleaning" and www.technoguardonline.com. Guess I never thought about it, but sure, that's a specialty -- folks trained NOT to unplug things, press red buttons, or pour liquids! (And, a friend adds, not send things to Wiki

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off) and wonders

2010-12-06 Thread R.S.
Paul Gilmartin pisze: [...] I've heard that NORAD Cheyenne Mountain had (are they still there?) diesel engines on static standby, with block heaters. But the flywheels were kept spinning. A magnetic clutch could swap to diesel power in a fraction of a second. It's obsolete and considered as l

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off) and wonders

2010-12-04 Thread Ken Brick
On 4/12/2010 16:41 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I surmise from your irony that the weren't interconnected. Gas turbines? I've heard that NORAD Cheyenne Mountain had (are they still there?) diesel engines on static standby, with block heaters. But the flywheels were kept spinning. A magnetic clut

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-04 Thread Mike Schwab
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Rick Fochtman wrote: > --- > I had almost the exact same experience during the "CHICAGO FLOOD" of 1992, > only our power was down for 2 weeks! Edison dropped the power without > war

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Patrick Lyon wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:45:12 -0600, Darth Keller wrote: You're now on battery power and have 23 minutes to power everything off as gracefully as possible. I, unfortunately, have lived it

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-04 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes: > The CDC mainframes were liquid cooled. I don't know how the > jurisdictional disputes were resolved. 308x must have had similar > conflicts. past posts mentioning cdc6600 doing thermal shutdown every week at the same time ... turns out to have been

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 11:07:54 +1000, Shane wrote: >On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:54:31 -0500 >Tony Harminc wrote: > >> On 3 December 2010 16:36, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: >> >> > One phase of the 3-phase power was out.  Think 3380 disks that >> > (according to rumors propagated by my CE at the time) have to be

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off) and wonders

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 20:54:05 -0600, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >Back in the 80's I worked for 2 different companies, each at an opposite end >an office park about a mile apart. The first company I worked for had big >turbines that they turned on whenever a storm came through, so the computer >room was

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-03 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Our first UPS many years ago was only able to power all equipment in the computer room and the building chilled water pumps for 15 minutes and had no generator backup. This was a big improvement over no UPS, because 99% of our utility glitches at the time were at most a few seconds, and if the

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off) and wonders

2010-12-03 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Back in the 80's I worked for 2 different companies, each at an opposite end an office park about a mile apart. The first company I worked for had big turbines that they turned on whenever a storm came through, so the computer room was powered by the turbines. They didn't have any batteries.

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-03 Thread Shane
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:54:31 -0500 Tony Harminc wrote: > On 3 December 2010 16:36, Pommier, Rex R. > wrote: > > > One phase of the 3-phase power was out.  Think 3380 disks that > > (according to rumors propagated by my CE at the time) have to be > > wired correctly so they don't spin backwards. >

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 December 2010 16:36, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: > One phase of the 3-phase power was out.  Think 3380 disks that (according to > rumors propagated by my CE at the time) have to be wired correctly so they > don't spin backwards. I can say from personal experience that the motor in a 3211 print

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off) and wonders

2010-12-03 Thread Donnelly, John P
We have a UPS system which we test from time to time on non-prime local time... One time we where testing; we had ten people standing around the display panel doing checking monitoring type activities... The Security Guard hears the alarms sounding, dashes over, and pushes the BIG RED POWER OFF

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-03 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
--Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off) On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:45:12 -0600, Darth Keller wrote: You're now

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-03 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:45:12 -0600, Darth Keller wrote: You're now on battery power and have 23 minutes to power everything off as gracefully as possible. I, unfortunately, have lived it. Minus the 23 minutes. We had a normal power bump to our building. Happens once in awhile, right?

Re: EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-03 Thread Michael Saraco
: 12/03/2010 11:45 AM Subject:EPO's (Emergency Power Off) Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List An interesting question came up this morning - all your multiple power sources have just failed. Your generator(s) started but, for whatever reason, have also failed. You'

EPO's (Emergency Power Off)

2010-12-03 Thread Darth Keller
An interesting question came up this morning - all your multiple power sources have just failed. Your generator(s) started but, for whatever reason, have also failed. You're now on battery power and have 23 minutes to power everything off as gracefully as possible. Do you have procedures in