Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-18 Thread Galambos, Robert
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Ross Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers >Hmmm, I find it interesting that I have two votes for IBMs Debug Tool, >which is completely unu

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Apr 2008 07:16:33 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote: >> Every once in a while, we have time to waste - pulling up debugger >> tools is as good of a way to fill that time as any. >> > >If a debugging tool is seen as a "waste of time" it is usually because >the installation hasn't p

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Don Leahy
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:09 -0700, Paul Knudsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on > >>having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:09 -0700, Paul Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on >>having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug, >>we go back to the old way - displays in the code. > >Wasting time good for j

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-15 Thread David Cole
At 4/14/2008 04:57 PM, Tom Ross wrote: By the way, I think IBM has the only debugger for IBM C and C++ on z/OS. Not for much longer. Cheers, TomR >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! << Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cole Software WEB PAGE: ht

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Tom Ross
>Hmmm, I find it interesting that I have two votes for IBMs Debug Tool, which >is completely unusable to me. We write C++ programs here. My main app is >something like 200 object modules. > >When I write a "Hello world" test app, fire it up under IBMs debug tool, it >works great. When I try to debu

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Howard Brazee
On 14 Apr 2008 06:29:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: >> Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on >> having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug, >> we go back to the old way - displays in the code. > >Hum, I know for a fact th

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:35:07 -0600, David Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS these days. >Our shop is currently using z/OS 1.5, and the IBM provided LE debugger >(via the LE TEST options) is completely unusable for us. It always has >been.

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers > > > Every once in a while

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Howard Brazee
Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug, we go back to the old way - displays in the code. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / ar

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
David Logan wrote: >Apologies of a sort about this email. My outlook ... Accepted of course, outlook should be renamed 'Look Out! Buggy Software' ... :) >I use Windows Vista with Office 2007 ... I *strongly* recommend *against* it if anyone is thinking about it ... Cool! That is one of the bes

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-11 Thread David Logan
Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, David Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering if there are any function

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-11 Thread David Logan
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, David Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS th

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-11 Thread Don Leahy
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, David Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS these days. > Our shop is currently using z/OS 1.5, and the IBM provided LE debugger > (via the LE TEST options) is completely unusable for us. It always has > b

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS these days. Our shop is currently using z/OS 1.5, and the IBM provided LE debugger (via the LE TEST options) is completely unusable for us. It always has been. What suggestions might other

FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-11 Thread David Logan
I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS these days. Our shop is currently using z/OS 1.5, and the IBM provided LE debugger (via the LE TEST options) is completely unusable for us. It always has been. What suggestions might other people have? ---