Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-18 Thread Galambos, Robert
received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Ross Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers Hmmm, I find it interesting that I have

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:09 -0700, Paul Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug, we go back to the old way - displays in the code. Wasting time good for job

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Don Leahy
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:09 -0700, Paul Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug, we

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Apr 2008 07:16:33 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote: Every once in a while, we have time to waste - pulling up debugger tools is as good of a way to fill that time as any. soapbox If a debugging tool is seen as a waste of time it is usually because the installation hasn't put

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-15 Thread David Cole
At 4/14/2008 04:57 PM, Tom Ross wrote: By the way, I think IBM has the only debugger for IBM C and C++ on z/OS. Not for much longer. Cheers, TomR COBOL is the Language of the Future! Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cole Software WEB PAGE:

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
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Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Howard Brazee
Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug, we go back to the old way - displays in the code. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:35:07 -0600, David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS these days. Our shop is currently using z/OS 1.5, and the IBM provided LE debugger (via the LE TEST options) is completely unusable for us. It always has been.

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Howard Brazee
On 14 Apr 2008 06:29:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug, we go back to the old way - displays in the code. Hum, I know for a fact that our

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-14 Thread Tom Ross
Hmmm, I find it interesting that I have two votes for IBMs Debug Tool, which is completely unusable to me. We write C++ programs here. My main app is something like 200 object modules. When I write a Hello world test app, fire it up under IBMs debug tool, it works great. When I try to debug our

FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-11 Thread David Logan
I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS these days. Our shop is currently using z/OS 1.5, and the IBM provided LE debugger (via the LE TEST options) is completely unusable for us. It always has been. What suggestions might other people have?

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-11 Thread Don Leahy
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS these days. Our shop is currently using z/OS 1.5, and the IBM provided LE debugger (via the LE TEST options) is completely unusable for us. It always has been.

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-11 Thread David Logan
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if there are any function debuggers on z/OS these days