Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- . Anyone else remember the DFP deltas? - Thanks a bunch for restarting my nightmares! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Richards.Bob
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question It most likely won't happen, but if: 1) All DASD Datasets are fixed. 2) Install new OS without support. 3) User(s) restore datasets from HSM to DASD with IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE att

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Rugen, Len
That gave me a headache... For better or worse, I test new OS versions in a LPAR with fully shared DASD, catalogs, RACF and etc. (NJE not MAS). What I envision if this ever comes to pass is that testing will cause way more problems than production. Those test datasets are the ones living on ML2.

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
attribute removal, or is the removal only done on recalls? Mark Jacobs -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richards.Bob Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Richards.Bob
, April 11, 2007 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question It would be nice if IBM could add that support to HSM now instead of waiting for the zOS release that removes support. Murphy says that once we clean up all DASD datasets with these attributes someone

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Rugen, Len
I've wondered if it will ever happen, the fix to HSM may cost more than the benefit of the fix. What was the benefit again? Just disk space? Any dataset that has been reorged in the last few years doesn't have the obsolete options. However, the solution to a recently recalled dataset in your scen

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
operating system level. Mark Jacobs -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marna WALLE Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question Hello David, I would hope that Ed and I

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Marna WALLE
Hello David, I would hope that Ed and I weren't saying different things, but there had been relatively newer information added to II13894 (which was copied here) on the topic, so perhaps that was the difference. Before this information was added to II13894 (which said that the recall would *not* b

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-10 Thread Mark Jacobs
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question from II13894 For those data sets that have been migrated by DFSMShsm or backed up by DFSMSdss that may have these attributes, they will continue to retain these attibutes when recalled or restored. When

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-10 Thread Robert Justice
from II13894 For those data sets that have been migrated by DFSMShsm or backed up by DFSMSdss that may have these attributes, they will continue to retain these attibutes when recalled or restored. When support for IMBED and REPLICATE is removed and data sets recalled or re

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-10 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question We are about to begin a project to identify and "fix" any KSDS's that have these attributes. The identification of the effected datasets that reside on primary storage is not a problem, but how do we identi

IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-10 Thread Jimmy Wagner
Mark, You would be doing yourself a big favor by contacting Dinosoft and talk with them about the TREX tool. We recently went through a similar exercise. Good luck. Jimmy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access in

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-10 Thread Rugen, Len
HSM migrate/recall didn't fix these at z/OS 1.4. I don't think it does at 1.7 either, but haven't verified that. It will take a "real" repro/delete/define/repro. The define parms don't have to be updated, there the obsolete items will be ignored. > I assume that the datasets won't be redefin

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-10 Thread Richards.Bob
: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question We are about to begin a project to identify and "fix" any KSDS's that have these attributes. The identification of the effected datasets that reside on primary storage is not a prob

IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-10 Thread Mark Jacobs
We are about to begin a project to identify and "fix" any KSDS's that have these attributes. The identification of the effected datasets that reside on primary storage is not a problem, but how do we identify migrated datasets with these attributes. I assume that the datasets won't be redefine