Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/08/2011 at 12:29 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >xt/370 & at/370 was motorola 68k As I recall, it was two of them, one with standard 68000 ROM and one with a tailored ROM. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
glen herrmannsfeldt writes: > I once had PL/I (F) running on an AT/370, about 5 minutes > to compiler a five line program. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#61 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#62 JCL CROSS-REF

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
E Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#62 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel) at the science center, there was a lot of performance algorithm, tuning, monitoring, simulation and modeling work ... some of it eventually evolving

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
figuration(s). Was that not the case? I still remember (albeit > vaguely ) looking at some output (paper) from a hone session and being > asked about memory and the like. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#61 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel) original

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Ed Gould
---SNIP--- HONE also started offering marketing&sales applications implemented in cms\apl. Eventually the sales&marketing use began to dominate all HONE use and the virtual guest use died off. By the mid-70s *ALL* mainframe orders had to be first processed by HO

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us (Roberts, John J) writes: > I'm surprised the old-timers didn't comment on my mention of APL. > This was the original "write-only" language - maintenance was only > possible by the original author. It was very heavily touted by IBM in > the early 70's. somewhat because of

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Ed Gould
Shmuel, We had 512K and ran MFT two or II. At the end just before I left we had a TP system that ran in p0 on 2260's. The rdr & wtr ran in p1 and p2-p6 ran jobs p1also ran IBM utilities . If I ever said MVT I was in error. Ed On Oct 7, 2011, at 3:30 PM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote:

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1318007771.19748.yahoomailmob...@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 10/07/2011 at 10:16 AM, Ed Gould said: > This goes back a lot of years but our systems each had 512k and we >ran 6 jobs. Granted the small regions were 64k but it did work. Are you sure it wasn't MFT II? 6 64KiB regions w

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3bfbbcd...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.ia.us>, on 10/07/2011 at 01:11 PM, "Roberts, John J" said: >This was all very tongue in cheek, but much of what I said is based >upon my reality back in 1970. I did indeed work on a 512KB S360/65 >system running release 19.

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Roberts, John J
(2) Upgraded our OS from OS/MFT to OS/MVT. We can now run seven jobs concurrently!!! >>>H, I'm smelling something fishy. What resources are used concurrently? In 512 KiB? Not bllody likely! >>>Those programmers and their jobs are probably very economically with all >>>those bi

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >>(2) Upgraded our OS from OS/MFT to OS/MVT. We can now run seven jobs >>concurrently!!! H, I'm smelling something fishy. What resources are used concurrently? >In 512 KiB? Not bllody likely! Those programmers and their jobs are probably very economically

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Ed Gould
This goes back a lot of years but our systems each had 512k and we ran 6 jobs. Granted the small regions were 64k but it did work. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@ba

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3bfbbcd...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.ia.us>, on 10/06/2011 at 03:58 PM, "Roberts, John J" said: >(2) Upgraded our OS from OS/MFT to OS/MVT. We can now run seven jobs >concurrently!!! In 512 KiB? Not bllody likely! >(5) We now have a 2780 RJE terminal. Have

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- HA HA HA You guys are just jealous. We have been making great strides here are Trailing Edge Computers. Things we have achieved lately: (1) Upgraded from S360/30 to a S360/65 with 512 KILOBYTES of core memory. (2) Upgrade

Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

2011-10-06 Thread Roberts, John J
>>>My use was deliberate, suggesting that PROCs and temp DSNs, >>>two facilities his client considers ultramodern, antedate the 029. HA HA HA You guys are just jealous. We have been making great strides here are Trailing Edge Computers. Things we have achieved lately: (1) Upgraded from S360/30