Re: JCL replaced by Jol: - Was Why is JCL so bad

2010-01-07 Thread Clement Clarke
Hi Paul, Yes, as you well know, it was used at Shell for decades, and Amoco, etc etc. All the companies that used it (some really major ones such as Amoco, Chicago) were taken over, or had the Computing systems moved back to headquarters, and converted back to Type 1 JCL. Had IBM supported

Re: JCL replaced by Jol: - Was Why is JCL so bad

2010-01-06 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Jan 2010 14:08:59 -0800, pgil...@pc-link.com.au (Paul Gillis) wrote: I used Jol from 1970 through 1988 and was very happy with it, then when I changed jobs I had to relearn JCL. Jol certainly provided much of what has been discussed here since the early 70s. Never tried a parm greater

Re: JCL replaced by Jol: - Was Why is JCL so bad

2010-01-05 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 01:09 -0500, Clement Clarke wrote: And that IBM haven't supported I imagine that's unlikely as long as you require that Jol not be used for war activities. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com

Re: JCL replaced by Jol: - Was Why is JCL so bad

2010-01-05 Thread Clement Clarke
Possibly right. That was only a very recent restriction, which I now remove. Pity people want to kill each other, though... Clem David Andrews wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 01:09 -0500, Clement Clarke wrote: And that IBM haven't supported I imagine that's unlikely as long as you

Re: JCL replaced by Jol: - Was Why is JCL so bad

2010-01-05 Thread Paul Gillis
I used Jol from 1970 through 1988 and was very happy with it, then when I changed jobs I had to relearn JCL. Jol certainly provided much of what has been discussed here since the early 70s. Never tried a parm greater than 100 bytes, wonder if that would work. Probably no reason why it

JCL replaced by Jol: - Was Why is JCL so bad

2010-01-04 Thread Clement Clarke
Paul Gilmartin wrote: The tragedy is that in 40 years no one undertook to fix it. -- gil I did fix it. In 1969 (40 years ago), there was a prototype of a JCL replacement language called Jol. By 1973, it was re-written in Assembler, and ran in 60K, just like the then JCL processor.