Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-04 Thread Jim Marshall
I'm going to disagree slightly, respectfully. In my experience IBM recommends purchasing Novell or Red Hat support at some level (or will price that into a support agreement). Not much disagreement there. IBM thinks it's a good idea that Linux distributors get revenue in return for the good

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-04 Thread Douglas Shupe
@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:55 PM Subject: Re: Linux Experiences? I'm going to disagree slightly, respectfully. In my experience IBM recommends purchasing Novell or Red Hat support at some level (or will price that into a support agreement). Not much disagreement there. IBM

Linux Experiences?

2006-11-03 Thread Phil Payne
I wonder how long the SUSE preference will survive? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/03/microsoft_novell_suse_linux/ And for a giggle: http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/6873/983/ Analysts are running around like beheaded chickens ... http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/story.html

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-02 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Snippet: Most customers are using SuSE because they were the really the first out of the box. Redhat resisted having OCO (OSA drivers) in their distributions. Redhat is now gaining ground on SuSE. End Snippet User leaning toward Linux (RedHat) in its own LPAR. We already have Z/VM, but the

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-02 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 08:57 -0500, Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote: User leaning toward Linux (RedHat) in its own LPAR. We already have Z/VM, but the concern is about costs, speed, iplementation, etc. I ran SLES in an LPAR for about a year -- used it primarily as a SUF server, and it worked well.

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-02 Thread Jim Marshall
Looks like the Linux under VM project is about to kick off. The user wants to move an Oracle application onto our Z/890 using that scenario. Out of curiosity, is there a preponderance of one Linux over another under VM? One of the Redbooks discusses SUSE, other signs point towards Redhat. I see

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-02 Thread Mark Post
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:59:07 -0600, Jim Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- I see one factor is Support and how it works in the Open-Source world. When I looked into this it is a bit different in the terminology. We use SuSe Linux and first I needed e-Maintenance not to be confused with

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-02 Thread Mark Post
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:18:53 -0500, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- I ran SLES in an LPAR for about a year -- used it primarily as a SUF server, and it worked well. But certain people on the linux-390 list who deserve your respect insist that Linux under VM is the only way to go.

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-02 Thread Mark Post
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 17:10:19 +0900, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity, is there a preponderance of one Linux over another under VM? One of the Redbooks discusses SUSE, other signs point towards Redhat. I believe about 2/3rds run Novell and 1/3rd run Red Hat currently.

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-02 Thread Mark Post
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:57:48 -0500, Daniel A. McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- User leaning toward Linux (RedHat) in its own LPAR. We already have Z/VM, but the concern is about costs, speed, iplementation, etc. Would anyone care to comment? If you already have z/VM in house, there

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
Mark Post writes: And this [IBM's Linux support services] sounds like the type of support you have available from Novell and Red Hat. The difference being you're not calling the IBM Support Center, but rather the group of people that actually produced the distribution you're running. I'm going

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
Out of curiosity, is there a preponderance of one Linux over another under VM? One of the Redbooks discusses SUSE, other signs point towards Redhat. I believe about 2/3rds run Novell and 1/3rd run Red Hat currently. (Many customers run both.) Novell is quite popular in Europe due to the SuSE

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-31 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Looks like the Linux under VM project is about to kick off. The user wants to move an Oracle application onto our Z/890 using that scenario. Out of curiosity, is there a preponderance of one Linux over another under VM? One of the Redbooks discusses SUSE, other signs point towards Redhat.

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-31 Thread John Cassidy
Daniel, most customers of mine use SuSE SLES 9. On Tue, October 31, 2006 14:10, Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote: Looks like the Linux under VM project is about to kick off. The user wants to move an Oracle application onto our Z/890 using that scenario. Out of curiosity, is there a

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-31 Thread Mark Pace
Most customers are using SuSE because they were the really the first out of the box. Redhat resisted having OCO (OSA drivers) in their distributions. Redhat is now gaining ground on SuSE. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL.

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-31 Thread Dave Kutz
Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 10/31/2006 08:10 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Linux Experiences? Looks like the Linux under VM project is about to kick off. The user wants to move an Oracle

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-24 Thread Jim Marshall
Question came up here about moving to Linux from a host of servers. 1. Have any of you experienced this? 2. Did you go native LINUX or 3. Multiple issues of Linux under Z/VM? 1. Experience yes, two applications with 45 Virtual Linux Servers; WAS, TAMS, UDB/DB2, Firewalls, Switches, Routers,

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-24 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Jim Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Question came up here about moving to Linux from a host of servers. 1. Have any of you experienced this? 2. Did you go native LINUX or 3. Multiple issues of Linux under Z/VM? 1. Experience yes, two applications

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-24 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
I don't think you can send attachments to the list. It either strips them off or just rejects the post. Since the financial presentation was a spreadsheet, I don't think it can be sent to IBM-Main. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/24/2006 10:00:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: off or just rejects the post. Since the financial presentation was a spreadsheet, I don't think it can be sent to IBM-Main. Strips the attachment, but if it's not too complicated or too big

Linux Experiences?

2006-10-23 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Question came up here about moving to Linux from a host of servers. 1. Have any of you experienced this? 2. Did you go native LINUX or 3. Multiple issues of Linux under Z/VM? Not really in need of technical answers, just basic why you did what you did, if you are willing to share. Thank you in

Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-23 Thread Gabe Torres
Daniel, We attempted the zVM with multiple instances of Linux running under it. As a technician, I thought it was a great concept. However, we ran into more non-technical issues that eventually killed the project. 1) Politics 2) Planning (Lack of) - Support Structures, Tuning,