Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-26 Thread Clark Morris
I have just started at a new client in the application development and maintenance area and at the moment am in a mood of outrage at two of the vendors we love to hate. My greatest ire at the moment is aimed at Compuware and File-aid. I have a multi-format record file so I am using the XREF c

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-27 Thread Mueller, David
Clark Morris said about Endevor program listings: . . . Underneath the covers they convert this so they can show you the listing they have stuffed in what appears to be a VSAM data set. . . . What you said about Endevor and program compile listing is generally true. But, the use of a VSAM file (a

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-27 Thread Low, David
> Endevor, the premier change management system keeps the > listings from program compiles but doesn't provide a way to > display them from the display elements list where you can > find other information about your program. Instead the > designers decided you should use the "L" option of disp

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-27 Thread Galambos, Robert
Clark See below for answers to your issues. Robert Galambos Compuware Senior Technical Specialist IBM Certified Solutions Expert - DB2 UDB for OS/390 Database Administration [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +1 905 886 7000 Toll Free: +1 800 263 7189 Fax: +1 905 886 7023 Quebec: +1 877-281-

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-27 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Galambos, Robert > > Clark > > See below for answers to your issues. And all your answers were typed in all uppercase, which in Internet "conversations" is considered SHOUTING. You didn't really mean to SHOUT, di

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-27 Thread Galambos, Robert
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: October 27, 2006 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List O

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-27 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Galambos, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No absolutely not. I wanted to differentiate my responses to the original post. Thought it would be easier for the readers to follow along I liked what you did. The uppercase characters made it easier to see your responses. Dave Salt SimpList(tm)

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Galambos, Robert wrote: No absolutely not. I wanted to differentiate my responses to the original post. Thought it would be easier for the readers to follow along The proper way to do that is by using an email client that quotes per RFC 2646. Whispering... You can intersperse resp

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-27 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > > Galambos, Robert wrote: > > No absolutely not. I wanted to differentiate my responses to the > > original post. Thought it would be easier for the readers to follow > > along > > The proper way to d

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/27/2006 at 11:10 AM, "Galambos, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >No absolutely not. I wanted to differentiate my responses to the >original post. Thought it would be easier for the readers to follow >along What would make it easier would be to follow Internet[1]

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-30 Thread Clark Morris
On 27 Oct 2006 07:09:41 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > >Clark > >See below for answers to your issues. > > >Robert Galambos > >Compuware Senior Technical Specialist >IBM Certified Solutions Expert - >DB2 UDB for OS/390 Database Administration >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> some sni

Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-11-22 Thread Clark Morris
Aurora, thank you for your reply. My responses are interspersed below. On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:22:32 -, you wrote: >Hi Clark, > >A bit late jumping on the band wagon, but I have been out of the office, >so throwing in my twopence with only 3 weeks' lag... > >You have already had apologies for

Endevor listings:Re: Mainframe still user surly, File-aid and Endevor aroused my ire.

2006-10-30 Thread Clark Morris
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:42:33 -0400, Mueller, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Clark Morris said about Endevor program listings: >. . . >Underneath the covers they convert this so they can show you the listing >they have stuffed in what appears to be a VSAM data set. >. . . > >What you said about