Re: Mainframe Java (Was: Platform Advocacy)

2005-11-15 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Tim, OK so now that it's over for those of us who didn't stay up that late did IBM run a new commercial? Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office)

Re: Mainframe Java (Was: Platform Advocacy)

2005-11-15 Thread Jon Brock
I saw the first one you mention. I believe the only dialogue was Touchdown! Jon snip Both have a z9 as the only server in a datacenter similar to empty datacenter in The Heist. In the first commercial, a guy throws a football at it, which, of course, it does not catch. I forget the dialog.

Re: Mainframe Java (Was: Platform Advocacy)

2005-11-15 Thread Tom Schmidt
I, like Bob, don't remember anything that was said... only the small black server in a large, brightly lit room with two stooges looking at it and rambling to each other. They didn't sell me on the technology or on IBM. IBM needs to dump that ad agency and get real IBM technologists to talk to

Re: Mainframe Java (Was: Platform Advocacy)

2005-11-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/15/2005 12:13:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IBM needs to dump that ad agency and get real IBM technologists to talk to the audience. Folks like Jim, Greg, Mark, Jonathan or Peter (or any number of other candidates -- like, say, folks from

Re: Mainframe Java (Was: Platform Advocacy)

2005-11-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 11/15/2005 12:13:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IBM needs to dump that ad agency and get real IBM technologists to talk to the audience. Folks like Jim, Greg, Mark, Jonathan or Peter (or any

Mainframe Java (Was: Platform Advocacy)

2005-11-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
Now if we can just make Java run better on z/Architecture. :-D Is it z/Architecture, or z/OS? How's Java for Linux for z/Series? (Is it even available? See -- we're not quite Solarized yet.) Is Yes it's available, and in my opinion, it needs improvements too. Java is Java. Takes more machine

Platform Advocacy (was: Re: HFS vs. zFS?)

2005-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Rob Wunderlich said: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:02:04 -0600 On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:41:54 -0500, David Andrews [log in to unmask] wrote: z/OS is an awesome platform, but we really need as a group to get over this silly anti-Windows thing. Sorry, but um, no.

Re: Platform Advocacy

2005-11-12 Thread Ray Mullins
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday 12 November 2005 07:31 In a recent note, Rob Wunderlich said: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:02:04 -0600 On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:41:54 -0500, David

Re: Platform Advocacy

2005-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:38:50 -0800, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And z/OS isn't the only IBM mainframe operating system, and IBM isn't the only mainframe player either (although it probably is in the high 90s percentile of installed base). Unisys, Groupe Bull, Fujitsu Hitachi and

Re: Platform Advocacy

2005-11-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In !!AAAYAJ/6KggGInlFs/[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/12/2005 at 10:38 AM, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Because this list concentrates mostly on z/OS (despite its name), we tend to have a slightly narrower vision of the computing world. While I am in no position to be picky,

Re: Platform Advocacy

2005-11-12 Thread Ray Mullins
Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Saturday 12 November 2005 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Platform Advocacy In !!AAAYAJ/6KggGInlFs/2GBOkJFIDCgAAAEKSAJA [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/12/2005 at 10:38 AM, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Because this list

Re: Platform Advocacy

2005-11-12 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:03:01 -0600 Paul Gilmartin said: On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:38:50 -0800, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And z/OS isn't the only IBM mainframe operating system, and IBM isn't the only mainframe player either (although it probably is in the high 90s percentile of installed