In
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on 05/06/2008
at 08:07 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
They'd rather criticise and jump rather than constructively aid in
seeking the truth.
PKB.
I try to be accurate and helpful,
ROTF,LMAO!
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO
Working for IBM as a PSR in 1970, I can attest that APAR was
Authorised Program Analysis Report then. Nor was there controversy
about it; no it used to stand for comments, for example. So if the
acronym did have other roots, they were well withered by that
time. Long live Retain!
Graeme.
Graeme Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Working for IBM as a PSR in 1970, I can attest that APAR was
Authorised Program Analysis Report then. Nor was there controversy
about it; no it used to stand for comments, for example. So if the
acronym did have
The intent of my OP was to supply historical information, not to stir up
bootless controversy.
APARs were indeed called 'Applied . . . ' before they were called 'Authorized .
. .'.
The adjective 'applied' once indeed figured prominently in IBM's
marketing-organization names: The men and women
Many years ago at Guide Montral (83?) I heard the key note speaker say
APAR stood for Atempt to Prevent A Reoccurance
PTF stood for Possibly The Fix
Avram Friedman
On Mon, 5 May 2008 13:54:18 +, john gilmore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The standard interpretation of APAR is now
Authorized
On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:10:57 +, john gilmore wrote:
The intent of my OP was to supply historical information, not
to stir up bootless controversy.
APARs were indeed called 'Applied . . . ' before they were
called 'Authorized . . .'.
The adjective 'applied' once indeed figured prominently
--snip
Let me also note that I stopped posting regularly in this forum chiefly because
I found myself feeling and, worse, exhibiting less and less patience with the
effluvia of gratuitous, because radically uninformed, responses that my posts
too often
On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:10:57 +, john gilmore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The intent of my OP was to supply historical information, not to stir up
bootless controversy.
Controversy? Most of the comments have been light-hearted
and/or a comment that it's been Authorized for 30 years or so.
The intent of my OP was to supply historical information, not to stir up
bootless controversy.
If I post a comment that contains a mis-remembered detail, I get lambasted
regularly by two people (whom I now ignore). I try to be accurate and helpful,
but some people don't care. They'd rather
On Mon, 5 May 2008 13:54:18 +, john gilmore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The standard interpretation of APAR is now
Authorized . . . ;
but it was once
Applied . . .
...
Really? It was authorized as long as I can remember.
That is Authorized ... Report, not Authorized Program
In a message dated 5/5/2008 2:21:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That is Authorized ... Report, not Authorized Program IBM
authorizes the report by assigning the APAR id.
Yeah, where are the symantiziers when you needs them? Ever hear an
Unauthorized
IBM may want us to think an APAR is an Authorized Program Analysis Report,
but I'm not going to let them fool me. I know it is really a three-banded
South American armadillo (Tolypeutes tricinctus). Check it out:
_http://www.thefreedictionary.com/apar_
On Mon, 5 May 2008 16:03:33 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
...
Yeah, where are the symantiziers when you needs them? Ever hear
an
Unauthorized P.A.R.?
...
Unfortunately, often. Usually it's worded Working as Designed -
Not APARable. UPARs are go in the garbage, accompanied, I
On 5 May 2008 13:38:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (, IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote:
IBM may want us to think an APAR is an Authorized Program
Analysis Report,
but I'm not going to let them fool me.
In answer to the OP: I
On 5 May 2008 15:51:01 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
On Mon, 5 May 2008 16:03:33 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yeah, where are the symantiziers when you needs them? Ever hear
an
Unauthorized P.A.R.?
30+ years ago the Westinghouse Fast Dump Restore program had the
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