In <42a1afad1002220649x5499e22vf319f85f3bec8...@mail.gmail.com>, on
02/22/2010
at 09:49 AM, larry macioce said:
>Is there a way to do this?
Just copy it with a new name; it doesn't have to be cataloged in the COD
master catalog in order for IPL to use it. If you want the ability to
update it
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on 02/22/2010
at 04:10 PM, John Kelly said:
>I know that I have SYS1 HLQ page DSNs, rather than PAGE, but I haven't
>been able to simple recatalog the page DSNs since 1.7, I also don't
>understand how you could use them while the other system is up,
Why not, as long as the other syst
I don't think I've ever seen any page datasets named other than SYS1 or PAGE
either, but I remember reading the doc back in 1999.
>>> Mark Zelden 02/23/10 4:49 PM >>>
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:18:31 -0500, Scott Rowe wrote:
>I'm not sure how long it's been this way, but I can say for sure that it
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:18:31 -0500, Scott Rowe wrote:
>I'm not sure how long it's been this way, but I can say for sure that it
> worked this way in about 1999, because I know I used it then.
>
I assume based on this APAR below from 1992 that it had always
been that way and I just remembered it
t do a REPORT MERGECAT or anything else.
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Thanks. I wonder if I always had this information wrong (that only SYS1
and PAGE HLQs had special treatment) or if something change at some
point.
Mark
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On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 15:18 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
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> > On Behalf Of John Kelly
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> > I know that I have SYS1 HLQ page DSNs, rather than PAGE, but
> > I haven't
> > been able to simple recatalog the page DSNs since 1.7, I also
> don't
> > understand how
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 12:43 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
> > I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM
> > dataset can only
> > exist in 1 catalog at a time.
> >
> > HTH,
>
> Actually a PAGESPACE, regardless of the name, can exist in multiple catalogs
> at the same time too. I do t
Um, folks, we seems to be mixing apples and Iphones here. In this context,
page files, IODF's, and master catalogs are not really VSAM.
And, yes, the rules for the SYS1 HLQ are a little different.
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> DEF PAGE
DEF PAGESPACE(NAME(PAGE.LIH1.COMMON) -
FILE(MVSPG3) VOL(MVSPG3) RECATALOG) -
CAT(CATALOG.ICF.newmastercat)
I know that I have SYS1 HLQ page DSNs, rather than PAGE, but I haven't
been able to simple recatalog the page DSNs since 1.7, I also don't
understand how you could use them
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I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM dataset can only
exist in 1 catalog at a time.
I must have missed this one too, when did IBM remove PAGE HLQ from this
list?
I thought that the original OP wanted to keep
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I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM dataset can only
exist in 1 catalog at a time.
I must have missed this one too, when did IBM remove PAGE HLQ from this
list?
I thought that the original OP wanted to keep the COD separate from his
running system, so I thought that the Se
Thanks for the update I did not know that ...
>I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM dataset can only
>exist in 1 catalog at a time.
>
And PAGE.
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On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:34:48 -0600, Staller, Allan
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>Also SYS1 has the special attribute of DEFINE RECATALOG allowing the
>definition of the same dataset in 2 different catalogs (just like
>non-VSAMS datasdest). This only applies to datasets with the HLQ of
>SYS1.
>
>
>I meant to add tha
Also SYS1 has the special attribute of DEFINE RECATALOG allowing the
definition of the same dataset in 2 different catalogs (just like
non-VSAMS datasdest). This only applies to datasets with the HLQ of
SYS1.
I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM dataset can only
exist in 1 cat
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IIRC, any attempt to catalog a SYS1 dataset will be forced to the
current master. Locating a SYS1 dataset will always be done with the
current master (unless
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> >At first this sounds easy but let me explain:
> >I am working on putting up a COD..not the fish as we are coming from
an
> >unsupported
little tricky but not that hard.
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At first this sounds easy but let me explain:
I am working on putting up a COD..not the fish as we are coming from an
unsupported z/os .
I'd like to use my current IODF (or even the previous one) but herein lies
the problem.
I DON'T want
Of
John Kelly
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Subject: Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?
So what i want to do is copy the IODF and place it on the COD res pack
WITHOUT bringing up the COD(as it wouldn't work anyway)
Since the IODF is VSAM y
An IODF does not need to be cataloged in order to IPL with it.
>>> John Kelly 2/22/2010 11:03 AM >>>
So what i want to do is copy the IODF and place it on the COD res pack
WITHOUT bringing up the COD(as it wouldn't work anyway)
Since the IODF is VSAM you'll need it catalogued. I find that the
So what i want to do is copy the IODF and place it on the COD res pack
WITHOUT bringing up the COD(as it wouldn't work anyway)
Since the IODF is VSAM you'll need it catalogued. I find that the Alias
HLQ to the COD catalog is the easiest way, just like you do with
ServPac,etc. Then change your
Thanks to all who replied
I have reread my instruction and I can ipl using an already defined iodf,
but I'll have to put in the volser of the old system where the iodf resides.
I am really creeped out about letting the CoD catalog and my old master cat
talk to each other, that is the reason for as
You need to do an export of the system it is on and import it to the
catalog that you want it to be in. Here is sample JCL:
//IODF16DD DSN=SMULLER.IODF16,UNIT=SYSALLDA,
// SPACE=(TRK,(14,1)),DISP=(,CATLG)
//IODF DD DSN=SYS1.IODF16.CLUSTER,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN
Yes.
Just put it on the RES volume and craft your load parameters accordingly. There
is no mention of catalog requirements in the GA22-7525-12 HCD planning guide.
The planning guide has a discussion on how the IPL parms, PARMLIB, and the IODF
are located during IPL.
Another way is to conne
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