>But the log can also serve as an audit trail for dataset creates, renames, and
>deletes.
So can SMF.
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:54:16 -0700, Edward Jaffe
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>John P Kalinich wrote:
>> Yes, very useful. I run with the log and list allocated to a SYSOUT hold
>> class. So far today I have around 100 or so lines in the log.
>>
>
>It's hard to imagine that kind of low activity lo
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Steve Comstock
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> Don Leahy wrote:
> > IMO, it should be turned off by default. Users who develop ISPF
> > dialogs should be able to figure out how to turn it on for themselves.
> >
> > My $0.02
> >
>
> But the log can also serve as an
John P Kalinich wrote:
Yes, very useful. I run with the log and list allocated to a SYSOUT hold
class. So far today I have around 100 or so lines in the log.
It's hard to imagine that kind of low activity logging could ever be
perceived as slowing things down. Look at how much goes into a
Don Leahy wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:05 PM, John P Kalinich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tom Marchant of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List
wrote on 04/15/2008 12:54:39 PM:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:
>>
>>Logging is only necessary when you are tracing
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:05 PM, John P Kalinich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom Marchant of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> wrote on 04/15/2008 12:54:39 PM:
>
>
> > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:
> >>
> >>Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable
Tom Marchant of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List
wrote on 04/15/2008 12:54:39 PM:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:
>>
>>Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable and function
calls
>>with Dialog Test (Option 7).
>
> You forgot to say, "IMO".
>
> I find i
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:
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>Logging is only necessary when you are tracing variable and function calls
>with Dialog Test (Option 7).
You forgot to say, "IMO".
I find it useful.
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>I've never seen anyone who could tell a performance imapct of keeping it on.
>Either system wide or individually.
>Ted, do you have any response time numbers or overhead numbers?
Not lately, but I have seen it in a small shop with limited TSO DASD.
Besides, the best I/O is no I/O.
I convinced
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:38:34 -0500, John P Kalinich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> >
>> >
>> > Two points:
>> > 1. It's in the config utility (ISRCONFG?) somewhere.
>> > 2. Why do you want to slow your ISPF session down by logging?
>> >
>>
>> #2 - Being an MVS newbie, I don't why you would or wou
>#2 - Being an MVS newbie, I don't why you would or wouldn't want logging.
>It comes out of the box turned on, and I didn't know you could turn it off.
Logging introduces overhead that you don't really need.
On the command line type log.
Then set the initial page size to "0".
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 6:58 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SPFLOG
>Why not contribute it to the CBTTAPE site? Sam G. is generally
Ah - Sure don't need that. I'll be figuring out how to turn that off.
Thanks.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:38 AM, John P Kalinich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Pace of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> wrote
> on 04/15/2008 07:27:10 AM:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Ted MacNEIL <[E
Mark Pace of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote
on 04/15/2008 07:27:10 AM:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Two points:
> > 1. It's in the config utility (ISRCONFG?) somewhere.
> > 2. Why do you want to slow your ISPF session down by lo
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Two points:
> 1. It's in the config utility (ISRCONFG?) somewhere.
> 2. Why do you want to slow your ISPF session down by logging?
>
#2 - Being an MVS newbie, I don't why you would or wouldn't want logging.
It comes out
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You need to install ISPEXIT number 16. I already have such a thing which
creates DSNs of "userid.SYS&SYSNAME. ...". However, this may not be all
that you need. You also need to use a different ISPF profile dataset on
each system. That's because ISPF do
>I hate to ask this question, but I have searched and searched and can not find
>where the SPFLOG list dataset name is defined. I have 2 systems
sharing data, and I want to rename the *userid*.SPFLOG1.LIST dataset to
something system specific so that I can log on the each system with th
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> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:01 PM
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> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:58:08 -0500, McKown, John
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:58:08 -0500, McKown, John
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>You need to install ISPEXIT number 16. I already have such a thing which
>creates DSNs of "userid.SYS&SYSNAME. ...". However, this may not be all
>that you need. You also need to use a different ISPF profile dataset on
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace
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> I hate to ask this question, but I have searched and sea
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|I hate to ask this question, but I have searched and searched
|and can not find where the SPFLOG list dataset name is
|defined. I
I hate to ask this question, but I have searched and searched and can not
find where the SPFLOG list dataset name is defined. I have 2 systems
sharing data, and I want to rename the *userid*.SPFLOG1.LIST dataset to
something system specific so that I can log on the each system with the same
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