Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-04 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/4/2005 10:24:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that appendix is not about replacing the "guts" of a 9840, it is about replacing an entire 9840 with an IBM 3590 which is designed to fit into the STK tape library. >> Sorry for the confusion. Br

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-04 Thread Bruce boda
Subject: Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode that appendix is not about replacing the "guts" of a 9840, it is about replacing an entire 9840 with an IBM 3590 which is designed to fit into the STK tape library. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processi

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-04 Thread Bruce Black
that appendix is not about replacing the "guts" of a 9840, it is about replacing an entire 9840 with an IBM 3590 which is designed to fit into the STK tape library. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/3/2005 6:09:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you please qoute the text in the above book that supports your claim: >> That's it. Appendix K Using 3590 in STK. -- For IB

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-03 Thread Scott Rowe
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:34:30 EDT, Ed Finnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >_http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG242594.html_ >(http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG242594.html) > >Appendix K. Would you please qoute the text in the above book that supports your claim: On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:42:07

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/2/2005 3:42:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No you cannot. You can install 3590 drives in STK robot library >> _http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG242594.html_ (http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG242594.html) Appendix K. --

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-02 Thread R.S.
Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 8/1/2005 9:30:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the drives are software compatible, but the carts are totally incompatible and cannot be mounted in the other vendors drives. Yup, but you can order 3590 guts for a 9840.

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-01 Thread BRUCE BODA
:01 pm Subject: Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode > > > > > >Yes, you can re-configure the drive but you will Void any STK > Warranty or service contract you have on the re-configured equipment. > > > I'm confused. To reconfigure a T9840 to handle 3590 carts would

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce Black
Yes, you can re-configure the drive but you will Void any STK Warranty or service contract you have on the re-configured equipment. I'm confused. To reconfigure a T9840 to handle 3590 carts would require a whole new internal drive mechanism. Since this can apparently be obtained only from

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/1/2005 10:03:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, you can re-configure the drive but you will Void any STK Warranty or service contract you have on the re-configured equipment. >> Yeah, pretty much etched in laminar once you pick a config.

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/1/2005 10:09:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have never heard that and I can't find any evidence of that on the STK web site. It would sound like a good move for STK to offer a 3590-compatible drive. >> Back when there was a working CONFIG

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce Black
Yup, but you can order 3590 guts for a 9840. I have never heard that and I can't find any evidence of that on the STK web site. It would sound like a good move for STK to offer a 3590-compatible drive. BTW, the STK T9940 tape drive uses a single hub design similar to the 3590, but again

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-01 Thread BRUCE BODA
Yes, you can re-configure the drive but you will Void any STK Warranty or service contract you have on the re-configured equipment. - Original Message - From: Ed Finnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, August 1, 2005 10:42 am Subject: Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode > >

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/1/2005 9:30:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the drives are software compatible, but the carts are totally incompatible and cannot be mounted in the other vendors drives. >> Yup, but you can order 3590 guts for a 9840. --

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce Black
Guy's i have both 9840 & 3590 tape and i can tell you with absolute certinty that you can not put 9840 tape into 3590 drives and read them it is physicaly impossiable. but the hardware def for a 9840 is defined as a 3590. Absolutely true. The IBM 3590 carts use the same essential mechanism

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-07-30 Thread BRUCE BODA
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:01 pm Subject: Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode > Taddei, Cathy wrote: > > > I believe the question being asked was can they stick a 9840 > tape into a > > 3590 drive and read it, and the answer is YES. At least is was

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-07-30 Thread R.S.
Taddei, Cathy wrote: No, I meant 9840 tapes. This was the experience of the sysprog's that went to the hot site (I was not there) in 2003, and they say the drives were 3590's. Perhaps it was a group hallucination...does anyone have definitive information? AFAIR 9840 has two axes inside. All I

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-07-29 Thread Taddei, Cathy
Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode Taddei, Cathy wrote: > I believe the question being asked was can they stick a 9840 tape into a > 3590 drive and read it, and the an

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-07-29 Thread R.S.
Taddei, Cathy wrote: I believe the question being asked was can they stick a 9840 tape into a 3590 drive and read it, and the answer is YES. At least is was several years ago... IMHO it never was true. Do you mean 3590 or rather 3490 tapes ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-07-29 Thread Taddei, Cathy
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell Witt Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode The answer is NO. While STK drives do emulate 3590 to the operating system, STK does not have any drives that

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-07-29 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 15:25 -0500, Russell Witt wrote: > the good old 3480/3490 cartridge. Another reason why I believe it will > stay around for a long time as a truly portable media. We use 3480 cartridges for archival purposes -- you know, those payroll year-end tapes you have to keep for ten y

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-07-29 Thread Russell Witt
believe it will stay around for a long time as a truly portable media. Russell Witt CA-1 Level-2 Support Manager -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy White Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 3:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: STK 98

Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-07-29 Thread Bruce Black
I think you asking if 3590 carts can be read in STK 9840 drives, and vice versa. Sorry, no. Although the carts have the same form factor, so they can be used in each other's tape libraries, the cartridges are incompatible. STK 3590 compatibility means that it looks like a 3590 to the host, b

STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-07-29 Thread Andy White
Does anyone know this We have IBM 3590 H drives, if we send the media to a shop running with STK 9840 tape drives in 3590 Compat mode can they cut a tape. Then send the tape to us and we insert it into a IBM native 3590 will it be able to read it? I'm being told yes and no ;) Anyon