Re: TINC?

ame account. Randy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 7:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TINC? Randy: We used to run MFT and everyday we changed the partition sizes without

Re: TINC?

edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) writes: > We used to run MFT and everyday we changed the partition sizes without > an IPL. > Now if you are saying to change from MFT to MVT then indeed an IPL was > needed, > as well PCP to MFT (or for that matter MVT)? > > The OS is the "key" issue and indeed VM

Re: TINC?

but I could be wrong. I never experienced MVT - just went from MFT to SVS to MVS. Randy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lloyd Fuller Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 8:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TINC?

Re: TINC?

In <041b8b70f0a2284f8468d78cb88f67a91ac75...@corp-msg-01.pfshq.com>, on 03/05/2012 at 10:06 AM, "Gross, Randall [GCG-PFS]" said: >I worked one summer for a company that had a 256k 360/40 running MFT >with (typically) 4 partitions. Iirc, it took an IPL to reconfigure >MFT. >From IBM System/3

Re: TINC?

: TINC? On 3/5/2012 10:06 AM, Gross, Randall [GCG-PFS] wrote: > I worked one summer for a company that had a 256k 360/40 running MFT > with (typically) 4 partitions. Iirc, it took an IPL to reconfigure > MFT. (M = multimple, F = fixed) If your installation required an IPL, then I surmise

Re: TINC?

On 3/5/2012 10:06 AM, Gross, Randall [GCG-PFS] wrote: I worked one summer for a company that had a 256k 360/40 running MFT with (typically) 4 partitions. Iirc, it took an IPL to reconfigure MFT. (M = multimple, F = fixed) If your installation required an IPL, then I surmise it either had an

Re: TINC?

Fuller Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 8:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TINC? It could be that the spooler was really a resident writer. I was just a newby programmer, and know that we were told that requiring more than a certain amount of memory required a major operations change and was

Re: TINC?

In <1330694818.18459.yahoomai...@web180909.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, on 03/02/2012 at 05:26 AM, Lloyd Fuller said: >I did not see the message that you are quoting below from Shmuel. We >were running a printer from the spooler. I thought that it was a >model 1401 printer, The 1401 was a compute

Re: TINC?

In , on 03/01/2012 at 04:09 PM, John Gilmore said: >and it is correct, albeit in a Pickwickian sense, that OS/PCP "had >only a single partition"; but it did support both transient and >resident readers and writers; It supported direct use of card readers, writers and reader, not a separate S

Re: PCP - memory lane (Was: TINC?)

Wow a blast from the past for me Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 2, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Chris Mason wrote: > Lloyd > >> ...> When we used PCP on the Model 40 with 64K. > > Back in 1967/8, a colourful customer on the patch to which I belonged w

PCP - memory lane (Was: TINC?)

Lloyd >...> When we used PCP on the Model 40 with 64K. Back in 1967/8, a colourful customer on the patch to which I belonged was running PCP on a 64K machine and it may have been a 360/40. Our ace young salesman had been responsible for this! IIRC this was considered the opposite of the leadin

Re: TINC?

, etc, not the DOS/360 stuff. Lloyd - Original Message From: John Gilmore To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 4:09:02 PM Subject: Re: TINC? Shmuel/Seymour wrote: NFW. There was only a single partition on PCP. Based on the model I'd guess that you were running DO

Re: TINC?

about a DEFINE command. Lloyd - Original Message From: Scott Ford To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 3:45:32 PM Subject: Re: TINC? Yeah, we did that when I was in operations many moons ago, dos/vs/power Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer

Re: TINC?

Shmuel/Seymour wrote: NFW. There was only a single partition on PCP. Based on the model I'd guess that you were running DOS/360. and it is correct, albeit in a Pickwickian sense, that OS/PCP "had only a single partition"; but it did support both transient and resident readers and writers; there

Re: TINC?

Yeah, we did that when I was in operations many moons ago, dos/vs/power Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:05 AM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote: > In <1330520469.27305.yahoomai...@web180907.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, on > 02/29/2012 >

Re: TINC?

In <1330520469.27305.yahoomai...@web180907.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, on 02/29/2012 at 05:01 AM, Lloyd Fuller said: >No. When we used PCP on the Model 40 with 64K. We had a single job >partition and, most of the time, a spool partition. NFW. There was only a single partition on PCP. Based on th

Re: TINC?

and bring up OS360 with just the program partition. Lloyd - Original Message From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tue, February 28, 2012 5:25:00 PM Subject: Re: TINC? In <1330454972.6614.yahoomai...@web180914.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, on 02/28/2012 at 10

Re: TINC?

In <4f4d0770.6090...@trainersfriend.com>, on 02/28/2012 at 09:57 AM, Steve Comstock said: >You're promoting angel dust? That's less toxic. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have

Re: TINC?

In <1330454972.6614.yahoomai...@web180914.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, on 02/28/2012 at 10:49 AM, Lloyd Fuller said: >But, of course, with the spooler partition. SPOOL? There is no SPOOL in PCP. Oh, you mean the offline 1401. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; s

Re: TINC?

But, of course, with the spooler partition. We have to get rid of those excess trees. :-) Lloyd - Original Message From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tue, February 28, 2012 11:10:04 AM Subject: Re: TINC? Bah! Viva PCP! -- Shmuel (Seymour J

Re: TINC?

Lol, love it Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 28, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Steve Comstock wrote: > On 2/28/2012 9:10 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >> In >> , >> on 02/27/2012 >>at 02:20 PM, John Gilmore said: >> >>> Still, their UNIX-orie

Re: TINC?

On 2/28/2012 9:10 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In , on 02/27/2012 at 02:20 PM, John Gilmore said: Still, their UNIX-oriented initiatives are a clear danger to legitimate, MVS-based undertakings; Bah! Viva PCP! You're promoting angel dust? :-) -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstoc

Re: TINC?

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:10 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: TINC? > > In > , > on 02/27/2012 >

Re: TINC?

In , on 02/27/2012 at 02:20 PM, John Gilmore said: >Still, their UNIX-oriented initiatives are a clear danger to >legitimate, MVS-based undertakings; Bah! Viva PCP! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We

Re: TINC?

John, Love it, who expects techies to be well rounded, maybe square edged ... Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:57 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > Not so long ago several efforts to stimulate interest in some useful > internet conventio

Re: TINC?

Not so long ago several efforts to stimulate interest in some useful internet conventions were described/stigmatized as the work a "shadowy cabal".. Then, very shortly, responses to such accusations were roputinized too, as There Is No Cabal One etymology--There is a picture of the five of them

Re: TINC?

Isn't that what tincture is for? :-) Or maybe not just the extract. Lloyd - Original Message From: Scott Ford To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 2:23:52 PM Subject: Re: TINC? Is there a cure of TINC? Maybe a treatment ? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford S

Re: TINC?

TINCture of iodine? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TINC? Is there a cure of TINC? Maybe a treatment ? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford

Re: TINC?

Is there a cure of TINC? Maybe a treatment ? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:20 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > I can cite only anecdotal evidence, and people always shout TINC! at > me when I say that I suspect the machination

TINC?

I can cite only anecdotal evidence, and people always shout TINC! at me when I say that I suspect the machinations of a CABAL. Moreover, since there are only two of them--A proper cabal should have five members--I don't suppose that the Gilmartin-McKown axis is anything more than a fa