Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-25 Thread Gibney, Dave
And don't try to use the same name on a different volume in the new set, cause it won't work. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imbriale, Donald (Exchange) Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:13:59 -0600, Matthew Stitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As was pointed out by Mark, the LNKLST is accessed through LLA. VLF only does the memory storage based on LLA requests. So even though you restarted VLF, you must also restart LLA. This might make your changes available

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:07:41 -0600, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:13:59 -0600, Matthew Stitt wrote: As was pointed out by Mark, the LNKLST is accessed through LLA. VLF only does the memory storage based on LLA requests. So even though you restarted VLF, you must

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-22 Thread Rajesh Dharia
Mark is absolutely correct on this too. Raj --- In the case of renaming current to old and new to current on the same volume, I think LLA would restart without complaining. LLA just wouldn't be managing the new library since the LNKLST still has the old one.

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-22 Thread Liliane L. Clever
I miss the beginning of this thread, so I am not sure what the original question was. But if it is a matter of renaming a loadlib in the LNKLST and hope that all will be well I believe that it will not be the case. It is my opinion that LLA will come up without an issue, but an I/O error

UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-21 Thread Rajesh Dharia
Hi All, Could someone please enlighten me on the below query ? : Q. I have renamed a LNKLSTed load library ( say , ABC.LOAD on VOLSER = XX ) to ABC.LOAD.OLD . I have then named a new version of the same product load library to the same name ( ABC.LOAD.NEW on VOLSER=XX to ABC.LOAD

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-21 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rajesh Dharia Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please Hi All, Could

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-21 Thread Rajesh Dharia
Thanks for your response , John :-) . You are right . I know, the proper way would have been to update the LNKLST with a new loadlib name or a different VOLSER ,at least . Considering the situation that a dynamic LNKLST change is not to be made , do you think IPLing the system will be

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:35:11 +0530, Rajesh Dharia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your response , John :-) . You are right . I know, the proper way would have been to update the LNKLST with a new loadlib name or a different VOLSER ,at least . Considering the situation that a dynamic

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-21 Thread Rajesh Dharia
Hi Mark, Not local rules, really. I could update the LNKLST dynamically.However, that won't be useful unless it is backed by the same changes done statically (which will be taking effect during the next IPL ). The problem is ... the change management procedures come into the scene here and I

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-21 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
There are numerous threads in the archives of IBM-Main which discuss manipulation of linklist. The basic procedure is: Define a new linklist set, copying the current one Add the new data set to the new linklist set Delete the old data set from the new linklist set Activate the new linklist set

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-21 Thread Matthew Stitt
As was pointed out by Mark, the LNKLST is accessed through LLA. VLF only does the memory storage based on LLA requests. So even though you restarted VLF, you must also restart LLA. This might make your changes available to the system. On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:01:13 -0500, Imbriale, Donald

Re: UPDATING VLF data objects without an IPL --a query for the list, please

2007-02-21 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:13:59 -0600, Matthew Stitt wrote: As was pointed out by Mark, the LNKLST is accessed through LLA. VLF only does the memory storage based on LLA requests. So even though you restarted VLF, you must also restart LLA. This might make your changes available to the system.